I'm not so sure about that. If I have a 35 acre farm and I'm driving in circles on my farm and I'm drinking there's not d*** thing anyone can do about it so no it's not illegal to drink and drive on private property.

According to Florida Statutes a CDD "may not exercise any police power, but may contract with the appropriate local general-purpose government agencies for an increased level of such services within the district boundaries".

So it seems if no agreement exists then anything goes on the MMP's.

Yes, they can and will. However, a street legal cannot exceed 24 mph. A golf cart is restricted to 20 mph.

Speeding is not the citation. Driving an illegal unregistered vehicle is a crime. Illegally modified golf carts and street legals constitutes the crime.

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“After passing the golf cart, the vehicle achieved a speed of 25 mph within the golf cart lane.“

The speed limit for everything on the MMP is 20 mph. No signs posted means 20 in TV.

To pass (cart, bike, or pedestrian) there must be a minimum of 3 feet clearance. Florida Law applies.

btw: when the MMP splits (one way), there is not room to pass a bike. Bikes cannot be expected to leave the path.
Be patient. Your beer will not get hot by being delayed by 15 seconds.

That was the reason for the stop but it was not speeding.

The article goes on to say the individual was arrested for driving without a license and another article implied there might have been a ticket for operating a registered LSV in the diamond lane.

20 mph applies to public roads. I do not recall seeing that it applies to the MMPs.

Of course, since golf carts are not capable of exceeding 20mph one could consider it an effective speed limit. But, since there is no enforcement on the MMP there is no actual limit on the MMPs.

The diamond lanes are not MMPs. Most (all?) are on public roads so those laws apply.

I have seen the statute that requires giving bicycles three feet of space when passing. Please provide the citation of the Florida law that requires the same for golf carts or pedestrians.

So when it’s convenient for the CDD....got it.

I’m assuming that exercising such a contract would generate an invoice for said ‘increased’ services from those agencies....that would be ultimately paid for by District residents? (In absence of the FL Statutes)

As is yours...

You are at a minimum putting first responders at risk in the event something bad happens and a (dangerous) rescue is required.

Florida law defines DUI broadly, so it does not matter where you drive under the influence. It’s against the law.

The statute says that no type of vehicle may be operated by anyone who is under the influence of alcohol or drugs anywhere “within this state,” including private property.

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Wish I could have been the fly on the wall to watch the tap dance he did for the officer.

Anything remotely entertaining will eventually end up on YouTube by the agency. So forget the fly costume...just log in! ;)

The Sheriff can not pull you over on the map but at some point
 

When you have to cross a Driveway he can pull you over if you have been drinking you most likely will be taking a ride with the Sheriff to Bushell,look it up.

316.193 Driving under the influence; penalties.—
(1) A person is guilty of the offense of driving under the influence and is subject to punishment as provided in subsection (2) if the person is driving or in actual physical control of a vehicle within this state and:

Splitting hairs but I always thought driving anywhere "in the state" under the influence was illegal. If you are on your own property and there is an accident serious enough to have FHP investigate you could be charged with DWI--anywhere in the state of Florida--including private property that is open to the public (mall parking lot). This applies to DWI and (I thought) suspended licenses and reckless operation.

Registration violation require operation on roads...
320.02 Registration required; application for registration; forms.—
(1) Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, every owner or person in charge of a motor vehicle that is operated or driven on the roads of this state shall register the vehicle in this state.


Speed requires a public roadway...
316.183 Unlawful speed.—
(1) No person shall drive a vehicle on a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and having regard to the actual and potential hazards then existing. In every event, speed shall be controlled as may be necessary to avoid colliding with any person, vehicle, or other conveyance or object on or entering the highway in compliance with legal requirements and the duty of all persons to use due care.
(2) On all streets or highways, the maximum speed limits for all vehicles must be 30 miles per hour in business or residence districts, and 55 miles per hour at any time at all other locations. However, with respect to a residence district, a coun...

Can You Be Arrested for DUI on Private Property in Florida? -.

If you crash your golf cart on a MMP I think local officials could charge you with DUI....even though the MPP may not be a public way...

The key here is probable cause. The OP you referenced only mentions having a drink on a machine....on a 35 acre private property. No mention of being drunk. No LEO is going to cross that boundary over a 12 ounce beverage while exercising a household chore!

Well, they may not be willing to get involved in a home invasion and burglary, but at least they're finally enforcing that all-important golf cart speed limit on non-public, non-county public roads! We sure can't have crazies zooming along at 23-1/2 with broken governor on their 20mph golf cart! You gotta draw a line somewhere!

Long overdue.

What part is "The statute says that no type of vehicle may be operated by anyone who is under the influence of alcohol or drugs anywhere “within this state,” including private property." not clear?

So a grandchild is on a ATV zooming sounds the property while Grandpa is enjoying a cold one. The ATV rolls on the side of a hill and kills the child.

An "accident" is now a DUI involuntary homicide.

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There goes mowing the lawn on a John Deere and cracking a cold brew.

Hypotheticals are rarely effective here. Maybe show some case law, FL specific....using the OP post as a reference point. Pretty benign stuff!

Google Zink v State of Florida So 2d 1984

Zink recognized you can be charged with DWI even on private property--operation does not have to be a public roadway or highway. The court believes the DWI statute was written to control the condition of the operator--not the location of the offense.

You do know we’re talking about an individual, on a 35 acre private property having a beer, right? Not drunk, not rising to a DUI. Yes, that was the context. All the other tentacles that grew out of the OP post is typical of ToTV sensationalism. No mention of grandchildren whizzing around on an ATV while grandpa operates a machine drunk and involuntary homicides. I’m sure you can dig deeper and find a case where a Karen or Darren summons law enforcement to address a neighbor riding on his Toro engaging in a chore while enjoying a cold beverage....and finds probable cause to enter private property to arrest said land owner. Can’t wait. And we wonder why we have a historic shortage of LEO in this country! Smh

And well it should. It's time outrageous behaviors can be reported and punished.

Where will the requirement come from? State, County, or CDDs? I doubt any of those entities are interested.

AFIK when your cart traverses a public road they can ticket you for having an unlicensed LSV if they have observed you traveling faster than 20 MPH on the private MMP. They also ticket you for equipment violations if your cart does not have working LSV equipment such as wipers, hydraulic brakes, proper tires etc., unless you are in Marion County where all the streets are owned by the residents and maintained by CDD4. SO SLOW DOWN.

My guess, whoever thinks it will generate the most revenue.... with little to no enforcement effort

Hydraulic brakes ? Nope.

Come on....................it's fun to make stuff up.

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Apologies. You are correct. I went back and re-read the thread. The OP was about the SCSO golf cart.

Somebody hijacked the thread and we all ended up on a 35-acre farm drinking beer daring the cops to do anything about it. LOL

I should have stuck to the original author's post...

I will be more respectful to the original author in the future....

Odd, how common sense goes out the window whenever golf carts and law is discussed.

Just a few points:

1: If it is illegal for law enforcement to be patrolling the MMPs, it is pretty safe to assume that they wouldn’t be.

2: An MMP can be more than those nice two-way stretches of pavement having no physical contact with a public roadway. MMPs often run ON public roadways, partitioned off from automobile traffic by a solid white line. Additionally golf carts often have access to public streets where no MMP exists. As such they’re as much required to obey the rules of the road as any other vehicle. This includes driving over the legal limit (.08).

3. Any vehicle (or pedestrian for that matter) utilizing a public roadway is responsible to do so in a lawful manner.

4. More strict, equitable enforcement of law on ALL public roadways is waaaaay overdue here in TV.

Fascinating

The deputy who drives it is a big guy. He said it will do 38 mph with him in it.

Darn! SO CLOSE to having a claim of a 40mph golf cart!