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DONNIEBRONX 09-17-2024 10:26 AM

The tax is graduated- see the chart for the brackets below 22%. You tax rate of 15% is a combination of you tax on the amounts in the brackets below 22% + whatever remains in the 22% bracket

dewilson58 09-17-2024 06:58 PM

I think the OP's question was answered +20 posts ago.

chilout

JRcorvette 09-18-2024 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by onfire (Post 2371169)
You don't pay 22% on your entire income, so 15% sounds correct.

Example using 2024 brackets.
10% on $11,600
12% on the portion $11,601 to $47,150
22% on the amount over $47,150 (up to $100,525)

https://equitable.com/tax-strategies...ctive-tax-rate

That’s a great calculator. Thanks

Stu from NYC 09-18-2024 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2371428)
I think the OP's question was answered +20 posts ago.

chilout

When does that ever stop us

Topspinmo 09-18-2024 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2371209)
This is why I am happy to pay our cpa to figure it all out and keep me out of trouble

Small fry, ask willie Nelson how that turned out. Flat tax is best solution, I don’t care how many kids or foundation person has it shouldn’t be scheme, it should be you made this much and you pay this much, no need for CPAs, HR block types or tax lawyers.

CoachKandSportsguy 09-19-2024 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2371428)
I think the OP's question was answered +20 posts ago.

chilout

Although true, we have to evaluate everyone's answer to thoroughly hammer out the final answer, be3ing sure that any adjacent topic be brought in, bunked or debunked, and then confirm that the original answers were fine.

also, with enough discussion, a professional will surely show up and answer the question to, to whom we self proclaimed experienced posters will finally bow down to as final

Haggar 09-19-2024 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2371543)
Small fry, ask willie Nelson how that turned out. Flat tax is best solution, I don’t care how many kids or foundation person has it shouldn’t be scheme, it should be you made this much and you pay this much, no need for CPAs, HR block types or tax lawyers.

Flat rate is just one rate, instead of multiple rates. What is taxable income? The thirty thousand pages of code only has a few pages for rates.

Still a need for CPAs.

Stu from NYC 09-19-2024 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2371543)
Small fry, ask willie Nelson how that turned out. Flat tax is best solution, I don’t care how many kids or foundation person has it shouldn’t be scheme, it should be you made this much and you pay this much, no need for CPAs, HR block types or tax lawyers.

Tax code is way too complicated and we need smart people who instead of helping to build our economy figure out how one should pay their taxes.

manaboutown 09-19-2024 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2371428)
I think the OP's question was answered +20 posts ago.

chilout

Well, this is a great place to beat a dead horse, yes?

Boomer 09-19-2024 02:20 PM

(sigh)

I see the usual snarkmeisters are present and accounted for, taking swipes at some good conversation. So what? This is a good discussion. Good discussions take side roads sometimes and that's OK.

We have seen the random pop-ins who always show up to state the obvious about not taking advice on the internet or consulting a professional......

Oh fergawd's sake, this bunch of old TOTVers all know that. If that's all ya got, at least look at previous posts in the thread and make sure you are not the upteenth poster to say the same old one-liner.

But I am shocked. I tell you shocked, oh so very shocked to see a couple of oldtimers who usually contribute to this kind of discussion have suddenly decided to act like aging patrol boys. Geez.

JFTR, I am sitting at my desk today projecting taxes. Am I grouchy right now? Well, yeah.

Boomer

Boomer 09-19-2024 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Haggar (Post 2371335)
As an active CPA I tax plan for the next year for my clients when we finish the return for the prior year. Basing estimated payments om prior year income to eliminate penalties and interest is fine for some but for some of my clients they want more info on their next year. Taxable events may change, higher or lower interest income because of changing interest rates, starting to receive social security, RMD's, sale of assets, sale of a business, etc all affect the next year projection. It's important to pay enough estimated taxes but it's also important not to overpay or know what the balance next April 15 will be in addition to the estimates required.

My compliments to many of the posters for answering the OP accurately.


Haggar, I love it when your CPA-self stops by to rescue us from ourselves. I was hoping you would show up. Thank you.

An extra thank you for taking up for us tax-planning types.

As you well know, there are buy-and-hold, long-term investors who could be thinking about selling or gifting a few shares because their favorite individually held stock(s) just hit an all-time high. If they are paying attention, this should be on their minds.

The October Kiplinger has an article touted on the cover as "How Much of Your Savings Can You Afford to Give?" The article says to be sure to take care of yourself first, but then goes into several ways to handle gifting. (I know you already know this stuff, of course, but I am throwing it in here in case anyone reading this post might want to find the article.)

The other issue is considering selling and keeping it all for yourself -- except for that pesky cap gain tax. Gauging potential tax-bracket changes and/or a hit from IRMAA means tax-planning so no surprises.

Not terrible problems to have but certainly a reason to plan -- and to talk to an accountant.

Boomer

manaboutown 09-19-2024 05:42 PM

Following the detour to tax planning taken by a handful of posters I have been reviewing my portfolios to see if some securities might be sold because I view it as advantageous to take LTCGs in 2024 rather than in 2025. Why? Because tax rates will be going up, maybe up, up, up. The writing is on the wall and I find it from at minimum confiscatorily scary to potentially terrifying.

Having for business associates aging out reasons fortuitously taken huge (for me) LTCGs in 2022 and 2023 I had hoped to coast this year, but...

On a new detour I added $18K to each grandchild's 529 plan, maxing out my gift tax exclusions to them this year. I plan on doing it again early in 2025 as I believe the estate tax exclusion is in danger of being dramatically reduced. How to Prepare for Upcoming Estate Tax Law Changes | Kiplinger

I am also considering setting up Crummey trusts for my children and other beneficiaries. Crummey Trust: Definition, Purpose, How It Works, and History.

Laker14 09-20-2024 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2371428)
I think the OP's question was answered +20 posts ago.

chilout

Yes, but it's so much fun to read spin-off arguments that have nothing to do with the OP.
Hang on, my popcorn is burning.

manaboutown 09-20-2024 12:10 PM

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Bill14564 09-20-2024 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2372056)
Looks like I am not alone in being concerned about estate taxes..

Access Denied

I am quite a few million away from having to be concerned.


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