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Bogie Shooter 09-25-2019 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Arubagirl33 (Post 1683967)
The recent articles & estimates are based on a $50,000 Homestead Exemption, too. Not All of us are permanent residences 🙁

That's your choice...……………………...

Aces4 09-25-2019 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1683968)
That's your choice...……………………...

If you would read the posts in this thread, you will see the tax increases are being discussed. There is a constant statement being presented that the taxes will not increase 25%. Arubagirl pointed out that many people living in here will pay that 25% increase since their taxes aren’t being subsidized. Obviously, she knows it’s her choice, l don’t think that remark was needed.

Aw Man 09-25-2019 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 1683921)
For all of the post with whatever subject title it is given, many times the facts and details are not discussed, only opinions. Fact we had not had an increase in 14 years. Fact the county is growing and that requires growth in services and infrastructure. Fact, no matter where you stand on school violence and gun control, schools have been mandated by state government to do certain things to protect children. Fact, reading the budget and the estimated tax revenue it was not enough for this year or coming years. You can hypothesize about the developer, the publicly elected commissioners, the amount of money that should be there and whether it is spent correctly but the facts above show there is not enough money. There are always a million ways to solve a problem, in this instance roads can be left to deteriorate, schools left open for more killings, no police or fire to cover the entire county are one set of answers. Not sure that those would be most citizens wants but it could be. We all have opinions and have a right to them, just remember that decisions should be made on whole truths, what is best for the majority and on facts.

I agree with you and want to thank you for taking the time to post your thoughts on this issue!

Aces4 09-25-2019 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1683995)
Your lecture point is noted.

Good dialog is difficult to come by when remarks are caustic. The 25% increase affects many people and I’m sure many people will be voting with their feet, particularly the part-time residents. This may lead to a larger full time crowd who will need to pay greater taxes to cover the revenue lost from the part time resident’s real estate tax subsidies. That doesn’t even into the consideration the additional crowding if part time homes become full time homes.

Paper1 09-25-2019 08:20 PM

As I've read through these threads on the Sumter County tax increase I am a little surprised that a large number of us, Villagers that is, seem to be ok with the tax increase due to two facts; that we have not seen an increase in a number of years and more services are demanded. Two facts are also Sumter country tax base has grown phenomenally during those years with 200K to 500k houses built almost on top of each other and commercial property value exploding. I came here from Northeast and there when a tax base "shrunk" taxes went up. My point is many of us came to Florida because of favorable tax structure and we must guard against becoming the New Jersey or New York of the south. Hopefully those who spend our tax dollars in Sumter Country have shown a lot more concern and care than their counterparts in northern states and the federal government. Blind faith that people will do the right thing is seldom rewarded.

golf2140 09-25-2019 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 1683921)
For all of the post with whatever subject title it is given, many times the facts and details are not discussed, only opinions. Fact we had not had an increase in 14 years. Fact the county is growing and that requires growth in services and infrastructure. Fact, no matter where you stand on school violence and gun control, schools have been mandated by state government to do certain things to protect children. Fact, reading the budget and the estimated tax revenue it was not enough for this year or coming years. You can hypothesize about the developer, the publicly elected commissioners, the amount of money that should be there and whether it is spent correctly but the facts above show there is not enough money. There are always a million ways to solve a problem, in this instance roads can be left to deteriorate, schools left open for more killings, no police or fire to cover the entire county are one set of answers. Not sure that those would be most citizens wants but it could be. We all have opinions and have a right to them, just remember that decisions should be made on whole truths, what is best for the majority and on facts.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

Fredster 09-25-2019 08:45 PM

What bothers me is an obvious lack of foresight by Sumter County board members,
and the fact that this county tax increase was really a done deal from the get go!

Fredster 09-25-2019 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Paper1 (Post 1684049)
As I've read through these threads on the Sumter County tax increase I am a little surprised that a large number of us, Villagers that is, seem to be ok with the tax increase due to two facts; that we have not seen an increase in a number of years and more services are demanded. Two facts are also Sumter country tax base has grown phenomenally during those years with 200K to 500k houses built almost on top of each other and commercial property value exploding. I came here from Northeast and there when a tax base "shrunk" taxes went up. My point is many of us came to Florida because of favorable tax structure and we must guard against becoming the New Jersey or New York of the south. Hopefully those who spend our tax dollars in Sumter Country have shown a lot more concern and care than their counterparts in northern states and the federal government. Blind faith that people will do the right thing is seldom rewarded.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

New Adventures 09-25-2019 08:51 PM

It's called "catch and no release". I always agreed that it was a "done deal" and the open meeting was just a "courtesy" to the homeowners. Talk about poor management! This is like spending all your down payment prior to buying a house and then being surprised when the bank asks for your deposit and you tell them you had no idea that it was part of the deal. At the end of the day, it is what it is folks. VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!

rustyp 09-26-2019 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 1684054)
What bothers me is an obvious lack of foresight by Sumter County board members,
and the fact that this county tax increase was really a done deal from the get go!

Was this increase foreseen when the county was doing the impact analysis of new builds ? Oh no big deal just small misprojection of millions of dollars.

thelegges 09-26-2019 06:18 AM

The tax increase is not just those in the villages who live here full-time, or part time, and own home elsewhere and do not Homestead.
it’s also about those outside of the villages. . I’m sure it may be a struggle for some. Ours is going up to 25%. Yes I choose to own more than one home. We will deal with it. But not equal to our home taxes up north. But for some either in the villages or outside this may be a struggle at 25%.

collie1228 09-26-2019 06:33 AM

This tax increase is no struggle at all for me. But I still find it outrageous, and the excuses put forth by Arnold and his taxing buddies don't carry any water with me. A couple of road updates cause a 25% tax increase in a "community" of 125K? They are either bad planners or bad spenders. Either is enough for me to do my best to see them out of office.

wdonze 09-26-2019 08:52 AM

I agree with a lot that has been said here and for me it seems to be "poor management" and "lack of planning". The one facet of the budget that irks me the most is the commissioner's giving themselves a 9.8% salary increase! So, I plan to vote my anger. Here is a list of the commissioners and their election dates
District Commissioner Election Date
1 Al Butler 11/2020
2 Doug Gilpin 11/2022
3 Don Burgess 11/2020
4 Garry Breeden 11/2022
5 Steve Printz 11/2020

New Englander 09-26-2019 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wdonze (Post 1684138)
I agree with a lot that has been said here and for me it seems to be "poor management" and "lack of planning". The one facet of the budget that irks me the most is the commissioner's giving themselves a 9.8% salary increase! So, I plan to vote my anger. Here is a list of the commissioners and their election dates
District Commissioner Election Date
1 Al Butler 11/2020
2 Doug Gilpin 11/2022
3 Don Burgess 11/2020
4 Garry Breeden 11/2022
5 Steve Printz 11/2020

The names done in red are the commissioners that voted for the 25% increase?

LuvtheVillages 09-26-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1684157)
The names done in red are the commissioners that voted for the 25% increase?

No, they all voted for the increase. The names in red are the commissioners up for election next year.


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