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OrangeBlossomBaby 04-05-2020 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackhawksFan (Post 1740670)
Florida the max UI is 13 weeks, no extensions. If you're still unemployed after a year you can file a new claim. I know this because I was on FL UI last summer.

You can receive anywhere between 12 and 23 weeks of unemployment benefits, depending on the rate of unemployment in the state (that's how it works in Florida, not true for much of the rest of the country). I thought it was the full 26 weeks offered in other states.

But it definitely isn't a set max of 13 weeks.

Then add the new extension just provided by the Fed, and it's going to be 26+ weeks.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-05-2020 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rmd2 (Post 1740654)
Yes, a worker in TV told me he was asked to come back to work and said no thanks. Why? Because he made more on unemployment than on the job. So of course anyone in this situation would take advantage of a 39 week vacation. Why not?

The worker in TV was not very bright. Either that, or you're making this up.

He will lose his unemployment benefits, AND he risks fines and penalties and repayment requirements if he is caught refusing to return to work.

allsport 04-05-2020 10:04 AM

So you lost your job because you tested positive for the virus?

EdFNJ 04-05-2020 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by arbajeda (Post 1740609)
It's an indictment of the wages paid in the state that some get more on unemployment than at their work. And it's only temporary. They lost their jobs through no fault of their own. Yet I see people here who begrudge them this benefit. The alternative is that they can not pay their bills and become homeless. Have you thought of that?

And do you call yourselves Christians?

While I don't call myself Christian because I am not (there are other religions out there) I agree with your comment 100%

Westie Man 04-05-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Debfrommaine (Post 1740436)
I hear what you are saying but to get more money now than when they were working? Something is just not right. I work in healthcare, I get my hours cut with no pay or use your vacation time......and a don't forget to wear your mask when you come back!

I agree but the purpose of all this spending is not so much to help particular people but to provide liquidity to the economy and maintain social order.

EdFNJ 04-05-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rmd2 (Post 1740654)
Yes, a worker in TV told me he was asked to come back to work and said no thanks. Why? Because he made more on unemployment than on the job. So of course anyone in this situation would take advantage of a 39 week vacation. Why not?

WOW! Where do you get 39 weeks? 12 weeks in FL. So for 12 weeks he will be RICH RICH RICH! Maybe he should invest in the market or buy gold. After his 12 weeks of crazy wealth collecting $275 + $600 and going on trips and buying Apple stock he will (as of now) be back to ZERO because he will no longer be on unemployment. You only get the $600 while you are collecting unemployment. 12 weeks! Such a windfall!

Florida Unemployment Benefits | Reemployment Assistance
From above State of FL website: The state determines your weekly benefit payments based on your previous earnings during employment. In 2020, you can receive a maximum of $275 per week for 12 weeks. You are entitled to a maximum benefit amount of $3,300.

Inspector Mark 04-05-2020 10:56 AM

It's true that the average minimum wage worker will likely receive more money though employment than they earned working.

Keep in mind the the extra $600.00 is only through July 31st (12 weeks) then the worker are back to normally unemployment. Also I read unemployment has been extended to 36 weeks.

One last thought. The $600.00 is partly meant to help stimulate the economy. If people have a little extra to spend they spend it, which is good for all of us. We need to keep businesses open and people employed when this is over.

Uketj1945 04-05-2020 11:00 AM

Does it really matter in these grave times that someone might benefit (like the poor)!
Life will (has) changed as we know it!!

Ben Franklin 04-05-2020 11:50 AM

The monetary help people are getting will go to corporations to pay for mortgages, auto-loans, groceries, healthcare, etc. No one will be buying frivolous junk. The corporations will also be getting monetary help, even those that paid no taxes last year. In the end, corporations will end up with it all. Jut sayin'.

LouGraf 04-05-2020 01:26 PM

The way i understand it is, you may recieve an extra $600 a week up to but not beyond what your weekly salary would be. For example if your weekly salary $700 and your unemployment benefit is $300 you will only receive an extra $400 to make up the difference for lost wages, if tour salary is $1500 a week and your unemployment benefit is $700 you would receive the whole $600.

Debfrommaine 04-05-2020 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1740578)
I work with 187 in OR, and periop. Only a few are there for emergency cases only. You have to use your CTO. No furlough, ages from 23 to 67. So far everyone is paying for their health insurance, and no unemployment.

I am in this healthcare boat, too, different job tho, not much above minimum wage. Cut hours, can use PTO if you have it, if not, no unemployment, no pay...……...ugh. It is a field I chose, love my patients and my job. Just, at the moment, it doesn't feel too good. This too shall pass and we will come out of it on the other side OK, I hope. We are not alone, so many of us in the same position.

Johnarch 04-05-2020 01:47 PM

Not true.

Jayhawk 04-05-2020 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LouGraf (Post 1740917)
The way i understand it is, you may recieve an extra $600 a week up to but not beyond what your weekly salary would be. For example if your weekly salary $700 and your unemployment benefit is $300 you will only receive an extra $400 to make up the difference for lost wages, if tour salary is $1500 a week and your unemployment benefit is $700 you would receive the whole $600.

Nope. Not correct.

rbrooks817 04-05-2020 02:33 PM

The state of FL pays the lowest rate of unemployment in the country. Why aren't people complaining about that? In times like this that extra $600 will be poured back into the economy not go to Boeing stock buybacks.

Linnberg 04-05-2020 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1740456)
Unemployment is only for 26 weeks. As far as I know there is no current federal extension. So the most anyone could possibly get from unemployment in Florida, including the $600 addition, would be $22,750 for the year.

Actually not correct. Unemployment in different states may be more as some can reapply if they prove they have attempted to get a job. Unemployment also has different benefits state to state, lowest around Fl $275 and high around $600.
The $600 weekly addition is for EXACTLY 4 months ONLY.
Unemployment is taxable at Federal level (unlike the stimulus most will be receiving) but may or may not be taxable at state level. Due to incredible number of online applications and old systems, it can take hours, and sometimes not working at all to apply. Most systems are so slow and crash so often that those out of work have had trouble even entering their case. They all deserve the $600 for 4 months.

Scbang 04-05-2020 03:47 PM

If you remember "Andrew Yang for president" he advocated $1,000 for everyone arguing most of it will go right back to the economy. I bet those $600 will also go right back to our economy as well, not to APPLE stock.

Debfrommaine 04-05-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1740625)
There may be situations where someone takes in a little more than they would have by working...but this is short term, eventually they will go back to work

hand outs are nice, but eventually you run out of other people's money

Do you really need the $1200 stimulus check that you'll be getting? Doubtful if you live in TV

Mine is going to a food bank that will be helping the very same people that you think may be getting just a little more $$$$ on unemployment than if they were working

they were just getting by anyway...just like the folks that pick potatoes in your home state of Maine for low wages, or trap lobsters

Good comments. Yes, I do need the stimulus check. My healthcare employer cut hours with no unemployment opportunities to make up those hours or funds. I make just above minimum wage. Do I live in The Villages, yes. My home is modest, I have worked hard, like most of us in The Villages and will likely go to full retirement age before I collect social security. Because I live here does not mean I am wealthy. Yup, I am getting by just like the folks who pick the potatoes in my home State. We are tough and know what we have to do to survive.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-05-2020 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Linnberg (Post 1740976)
Actually not correct. Unemployment in different states may be more as some can reapply if they prove they have attempted to get a job. Unemployment also has different benefits state to state, lowest around Fl $275 and high around $600.
The $600 weekly addition is for EXACTLY 4 months ONLY.
Unemployment is taxable at Federal level (unlike the stimulus most will be receiving) but may or may not be taxable at state level. Due to incredible number of online applications and old systems, it can take hours, and sometimes not working at all to apply. Most systems are so slow and crash so often that those out of work have had trouble even entering their case. They all deserve the $600 for 4 months.

I was incorrect on two points: the 26 weeks, which I mistakenly thought was nationwide and doesn't apply to Florida - and that the $600 was spread out over the entirety of the unemployment benefits period.

There is no state income tax in Florida so no, it wouldn't be taxable on a state level here. The Florida unemployment system is encountering problems because it was designed intentionally to fail. The point of it being horrendous was to keep the unemployment numbers artificially low. You can say "see, Florida unemployment rate is very low!" because it's nearly impossible to file for it in the first place, so thousands of qualifying unemployed Floridians don't ever get to successfully file a claim.

Max Connecticut unemployment rate was $649/week, last year, and Connecticut had a 26-week benefit period. I had no idea this wasn't standard nationally.

Nucky 04-05-2020 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rmd2 (Post 1740654)
Yes, a worker in TV told me he was asked to come back to work and said no thanks. Why? Because he made more on unemployment than on the job. So of course anyone in this situation would take advantage of a 39 week vacation. Why not?

Piece of cake! The second a worker doesn't return to work when summonsed by his/her employer the employer is obligated to report that the now former employees answer about the return to work which will eventually shut off the unemployment to the person who didn't return to work. If they were overpaid until thing smooth out and because of the work load at The Unemployment Office and the situation we are in eventually they will be required to repay anything they collected after the call back to work occurred.

I think the worker you spoke to in TV was a STORYTELLER.

$275 a week for UI in Florida? Shameful! Give 'em the extra $600 a week till things straighten out. Better than having a family without the breadwinner. They could use a good night sleep and having a couple extra bucks is righteous.

To everybody aghast with their $1200, pennies from heaven, if you don't want it. Rock the world of the guy or gal who loads your car with groceries. Do something out of this world :pray: with it for someone in need.

Mendy 04-05-2020 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1740777)
WOW! Where do you get 39 weeks? 12 weeks in FL. So for 12 weeks he will be RICH RICH RICH! Maybe he should invest in the market or buy gold. After his 12 weeks of crazy wealth collecting $275 + $600 and going on trips and buying Apple stock he will (as of now) be back to ZERO because he will no longer be on unemployment. You only get the $600 while you are collecting unemployment. 12 weeks! Such a windfall!

Florida Unemployment Benefits | Reemployment Assistance
From above State of FL website: The state determines your weekly benefit payments based on your previous earnings during employment. In 2020, you can receive a maximum of $275 per week for 12 weeks. You are entitled to a maximum benefit amount of $3,300.

99% of people would gladly accept a job over getting a little more $ from unemployment insurance for a limited time. I lost my job and it won’t be easy to find another one.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-06-2020 08:05 AM

This thread makes me think about the irony of it all.

Who would've ever thought that being a clerk in a supermarket would be one of the MOST secure jobs in the country?

Nucky 04-06-2020 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1741285)
This thread makes me think about the irony of it all.

Who would've ever thought that being a clerk in a supermarket would be one of the MOST secure jobs in the country?

Not only secure but one of the most appreciated. The people in the Pharmacy also. Absolutely amazing individuals all the way around. I think if the community really took a minute and thought about the job that people are performing in Supermarkets, Fire Houses, Police Departments, Social Services, Postal Service, Etc it is amazing that they carry on and are there for us during these trying times.

The Medical Staff on all levels are just unbelievable. Some of the stories of people on television, spouses of friends and one of our daughter in laws are touching to say the least.
Bless You All. :pray:

Debfrommaine 04-06-2020 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1741339)
Not only secure but one of the most appreciated. The people in the Pharmacy also. Absolutely amazing individuals all the way around. I think if the community really took a minute and thought about the job that people are performing in Supermarkets, Fire Houses, Police Departments, Social Services, Postal Service, Etc it is amazing that they carry on and are there for us during these trying times.

The Medical Staff on all levels are just unbelievable. Some of the stories of people on television, spouses of friends and one of our daughter in laws are touching to say the least.
Bless You All. :pray:


Thank you.

CoachKandSportsguy 04-07-2020 06:07 AM

Interesting how opinions change when the situation changes. If one appreciates the "blue collar" worker, the hourly worker who helps you with daily chores, who stocks the selves, who delivers your favorite food from distant parts of the country, who fixes electric wires, gas meters, fights fires when you need help, maybe they deserve some financial support when they are out of work through no fault of their own.

No one gets rich on unemployment, unemployment is not permanent, unemployment helps prevent social unrest when people can't eat, people can get overtaken by events beyond their control or their abilities.

Maybe people should stop complaining about other people's misfortune and their temporary support, and help out with the stimulus checks if you don't need it. Misfortune can hit anyone, at any time, so be thankful that misfortune has hit you yet, and help out so that your mail still gets delivered, your food shelves are still stocked, your electricity still flow, etc.

Being thankful everyday for the little behaviors can change your outlook on surviving these dark days.

Watch the movie "Late Night" on how hard it is to keep up and learn the lessons again which everyone forgets over time.

sportsguy

Get real 04-07-2020 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 1740505)
I think by reading these posts people are off on their thinking. There are many working in and around TV making less than 45K including those working for The Villages. Your clothing store workers, restaurant workers, grocery & gas stations, doctors office etc.
45k is only $865/week. Aldi is probably the highest paying market around at a little over $13/hr. so figure it out. Talk to some of the people working here or look online at the help wanted adds. Yea I can believe they're making more with the extra unemployment.

Don't forget the firemen, cops, nurses and first responders all make less than 45K a year here.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-07-2020 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1741339)
Not only secure but one of the most appreciated. The people in the Pharmacy also. Absolutely amazing individuals all the way around. I think if the community really took a minute and thought about the job that people are performing in Supermarkets, Fire Houses, Police Departments, Social Services, Postal Service, Etc it is amazing that they carry on and are there for us during these trying times.

The Medical Staff on all levels are just unbelievable. Some of the stories of people on television, spouses of friends and one of our daughter in laws are touching to say the least.
Bless You All. :pray:

Thanks, Nucky!

-your friendly neighborhood grocery clerk :)


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