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retiredguy123 02-18-2023 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 2188725)
Only on sales do they require a Termite Inspection. Never heard of a mortgage company requiring a new treatment of poisonous chemicals if no evidence of termites.

A mortgage company may require a termite inspection, but Florida law does not.

photo1902 02-18-2023 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 2188737)
THAT does not look like termite damage at all Mr. Photo. Very suspicious but not termites IMO. I had termite problems up North and THAT does not look like it.

If you’re an entomologist (I am not), I’ll defer to your expertise. I have no dog in this fight and was simply sharing photos I took of a friends home when she asked me for assistance.

She called Dean’s, with whom her recent deceased husband had fortunately renewed the protection plan.

The next day a tech came out and examined the damage. They agreed that it was termites and paid for the repairs and additional treatment. Again, I have no interest in this, financial or otherwise, and was simply sharing what I observed and learned.

That being said, a quick search of termite damage on moulding, revealed many images which were exactly what this lady experienced.

As other posters have mentioned, get the service or don’t. It’s a completely personal decision.

BCKING 02-18-2023 09:59 AM

Get Deans to renew. Brings a little sniffer dog, checks the whole house then charges 1/3 of Massey. We did this several years ago. Was told to never give up your termite coverage in Florida!

ahrens fox 02-18-2023 10:00 AM

Type of termite
 
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Originally Posted by dpmers (Post 2187987)
Massey was here today to let me know I had to either renew or be cancelled for termite protection. My home is 20 years old, we have had massey termite for 20 years. Now they want $449 plus $149 to treat and renew our policy.
Has anyone had any problems with termites? We live in Piedmont and have not heard of anybody with termite issues.
I said I did not want to spend that much money and he picked up his papers and left.

They may not cover all types of termites. Be sure to ask. Based on personal experience.

OhioBuckeye 02-18-2023 10:13 AM

I do my own & never ever had a bug problem. But I’m sure they’ll tell you theirs is better! So if that’s true why is there bug spray on the market & why aren’t more people complaining!

Linnberg 02-18-2023 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Josephjmarchese (Post 2188312)
Saw three houses in my area North of 466, that were tented to eradicate termites. Costs thousands $$$

Tenting is generally down for dry wood termites which is completely different from subterranean termites.
Dry wood is caused by being inside wood in furniture, beams etc and take years to do damage. Don't see flying, and first notice what looks like pepper coming from a tiny hole. I don't believe Massey
Or Deans cover for dry wood when you pay for a termite contract.
"Typically, the use of fumigation methods (i.e. tenting) is essential for treating drywood termites that reside within the actual wooden structure, whereas in-soil chemicals, barriers, and baiting systems aim to target subterranean termites that live in the soil surrounding the house."

retiredguy123 02-18-2023 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BCKING (Post 2188761)
Get Deans to renew. Brings a little sniffer dog, checks the whole house then charges 1/3 of Massey. We did this several years ago. Was told to never give up your termite coverage in Florida!

They don't charge 1/3 of Massey. In my case, they quoted more than Massey for treatment and annual inspections.

mark100 02-18-2023 11:33 AM

The $449.00 is for the 10 year policy. The $199.00 is the the yearly inspection. This is cheep protection. If you get termites the cost to get rid of them will make you wish you had taken the insurance policy and paid the yearly fee.

retiredguy123 02-18-2023 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mark100 (Post 2188822)
The $449.00 is for the 10 year policy. The $199.00 is the the yearly inspection. This is cheep protection. If you get termites the cost to get rid of them will make you wish you had taken the insurance policy and paid the yearly fee.

The $449 also includes treating the house by injecting a chemical in the soil around your house every 16 inches.

Worldseries27 02-18-2023 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2187998)
i recently renewed my termite contract with massey. I went with massey because they gave me a 10-year renewable contract. I considered dean's, but they would only offer a one year contract with no guaranteed renewal.

also believe they don't cover all termite classifications like massey whom i'm with

villagerjack 02-18-2023 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 2188491)
The photos I posted of the termite damage was from last year at a home on Baisley Trail.

Fortunately the owner had termite coverage, and the damage and follow-up treatment cost her nothing out of pocket.

You kept a photo of amsoneobe else’s home damage! You must have a lot of photos.,

retiredguy123 02-18-2023 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 2188846)
You kept a photo of amsoneobe else’s home damage! You must have a lot of photos.,

Why do you think his name is Photo?

HJBeck 02-18-2023 12:10 PM

Agree with you. Doesn’t cost much to do it yourself once a year.$30-$50 bucks a year, 30 minute job (just buy the good stuff. If you don’t believe me watch what thy do sometime.

retiredguy123 02-18-2023 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 2188737)
THAT does not look like termite damage at all Mr. Photo. Very suspicious but not termites IMO. I had termite problems up North and THAT does not look like it.

It looks like termite damage that I have seen. They can eat most of a door frame, and leave a thin layer of wood at the surface. That is why an inspector will tap the surface of the wood trim and baseboards with a screwdriver to see if it collapses. When termites get close to the wood surface, they will see light and stop eating.

Pilodent 02-18-2023 12:40 PM

I got rid of Massey for a similar experience.

Pairadocs 02-18-2023 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dpmers (Post 2187987)
Massey was here today to let me know I had to either renew or be cancelled for termite protection. My home is 20 years old, we have had massey termite for 20 years. Now they want $449 plus $149 to treat and renew our policy.
Has anyone had any problems with termites? We live in Piedmont and have not heard of anybody with termite issues.
I said I did not want to spend that much money and he picked up his papers and left.


Everyone has their own take on this. After our initial building (and "assume" the lot was properly treated), hubby decided on the Spectricide stake system ( with the "popup" signal to indicate stake needs to be replaced. Been with it for about 18 years now, no signs of termites (other than when a stake's bait has been expended). The original cost ran about $35, think the last box was near $60 at HD, but a full box is not always needed each year. This would make some people uneasy, so they are probably better off to hire a pest service no matter what the cost, but mother in law had the leading service in the nation. She lived in a far northern state not known for a great deal of termite activity, but did get an infestation. That expensive contract she paid for for year because she felt better with the "guarantee", proved to be absolutely useless. Was much like the "insurance" one takes out with a moving company...sounds very comforting, but when something actually happens, just try to collect anything. The cost of an attorney is prohibitive for most people, and without one, or even with one, the end result is often not worth the effort. So my advice would be, do what makes YOU feel secure. If you feel better with a contacted service, you should do that regardless of cost. If you feel just a secure using a DIY prevention of some type, surface spray or stakes, then you might feel fine for much less money. Do what makes you feel most secure.

Pairadocs 02-18-2023 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2188328)
Subterranean termites can take up residence in the soil under any part of the house. But, they need a source of water to survive. Sometimes, a bathroom will have a drain leak that drips water under the slab. So, that is where the termites are living. They move up and down from under the house and eat mostly soft wood like door frames and window sills. Termites cannot stand the light, so they eat the wood under the surface, and when they get near the surface, they move in the other direction. So, the door frame can look normal, but the surface is paper thin. The problem with termites is that once they move in, they never leave. Once per year, they mate and a swarm of them will fly away to find another house, but others will remain in the house.

Good helpful info ! Thanks

photo1902 02-18-2023 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 2188846)
You kept a photo of amsoneobe else’s home damage! You must have a lot of photos.,

Helping an elderly friend of mine document the damage. But thanks for your concern

Pairadocs 02-18-2023 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dougjb (Post 2188378)
According to the posters here, there have been a few houses with termites. Some repeat anecdotal observations which could be posted by those selling termite protection plans.

I am interested in hearing about actual termite infestations.

I have never seen a house tented house in The Villages (unlike South Florida). I know lots pay for termite protection but, is it really needed if there are no infestations. Instead of an expensive subterranean plan sold by Massey or Dean, can one use the stakes sold at HD or Lowes instead?

I posted hubby has used the stake system for YEARS now. But also acknowledged this would make some people very nervous, don't think they would feel "safe" without a contract service, so one has to choose what makes them feel most relaxed. In the last 18 or so years, I know of one incident of of a home that had the (Asian ? Not sure that is the correct term) type of termite that calls for the entire home "tented", filled with poison that is left for a few days. Don't remember all the details, but IF I remember correctly, it was in the general area around Oak Forest. Not sure, it's been a long time, but made quite a new splash at the time.

Pairadocs 02-18-2023 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2188397)
True enough, but that goes for just about everything on TOTV.

I could say I had a fabulous meal at a certain restaurant, but I might have a financial interest in it.

Just because the name in my passport is Termite B. Gone...

Might add, so MUCH here (seems like more than most places but perhaps not !) is based on FEAR. Fear of NOT having a contract to inspect furnace and AC each year, fear of not having a contract to have house sprayed with chemicals inside and out to prevent insects, fear on not having a contract with a service to spray lawn for insects, to spray lawn for nutrients, just goes on and on. Probably best for each individual to decide what it takes to make them secure and comfortable, depending on their financial ability.

bp243 02-18-2023 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BernieJr (Post 2187993)
Superior Services
1-800-PestControl
Ask for Mitch Bolton
They have been in The Villages for over 25 years.

Thank you! Would you be willing to share the annual cost?

JMintzer 02-18-2023 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mkjelenbaas (Post 2188659)
DEANS are SCAMMERS - they lie about what they will do - I know because I caught them saying they were performing a job when I was a snow bird - neighbor sent pics and caught them lieing to me- they were CAUGHT —— get an independent company like MID FLORIDA PEST CONTROL- you have been warned!!

Except, they've never charged us for something they didn't do. If I'm not in FL, I can see them when they show up (security cameras) and we're charged accordingly...

villagerjack 02-18-2023 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2188649)


great information…thank you !

villagerjack 02-18-2023 06:55 PM

They don’t start in the middle of the door. That photo seems ridiculous…subterranean termites start in the soil and work their way up in tunnels which Can easily be seen.

Not In the middle of a door.

Ramone 02-18-2023 07:53 PM

Massey and Termites
 
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Originally Posted by dpmers (Post 2187987)
Massey was here today to let me know I had to either renew or be cancelled for termite protection. My home is 20 years old, we have had massey termite for 20 years. Now they want $449 plus $149 to treat and renew our policy.
Has anyone had any problems with termites? We live in Piedmont and have not heard of anybody with termite issues.
I said I did not want to spend that much money and he picked up his papers and left.

Yeah, I had em for years and thay came at me that way. I told them to pull up their traps and get out. Without that protection now. Fine!

photo1902 02-18-2023 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 2189005)
They don’t start in the middle of the door. That photo seems ridiculous…subterranean termites start in the soil and work their way up in tunnels which Can easily be seen.

Not In the middle of a door.

No idea what type of termites they were. Again, I’m not a termite expert. Never claimed to be.

As an aside, I did a quick check on the University of Florida Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences website. There’s a paper on the site, from 2022, which includes this photo and description.

retiredguy123 02-19-2023 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 2189005)
They don’t start in the middle of the door. That photo seems ridiculous…subterranean termites start in the soil and work their way up in tunnels which Can easily be seen.

Not In the middle of a door.

I don't agree. Termites are not easy to detect. They eat wood from the inside out. Often, they are not detected until they have been residing in your house for several years and have done substantial damage. You don't see them because they hide from the light.

villagerjack 02-19-2023 08:05 AM

So you kept photos of damage to someone else’s home in YOUR files for over a year after she had the damage repaired so you can post it here to push termite companies?

photo1902 02-19-2023 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 2189124)
So you kept photos of damage to someone else’s home in YOUR files for over a year after she had the damage repaired so you can post it here to push termite companies?

Too much coffee this morning?

You’re funny. Have a great Sunday

villagerjack 02-19-2023 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 2189022)
No idea what type of termites they were. Again, I’m not a termite expert. Never claimed to be.

As an aside, I did a quick check on the University of Florida Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences website. There’s a paper on the site, from 2022, which includes this photo and description.

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 2188309)
This is a house just south of 466a. Termite damage is a real thing. The damage below the surface was much more extensive.

STRUCTURE INFESTATION
If you find termite activity in a structure or a tree, please collect the insects with the soldier caste, if possible. Sign of infestation includes powder post accumulation (drywood termites) or mud tub (subterranean termites)

photo1902 02-19-2023 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 2189144)
STRUCTURE INFESTATION
If you find termite activity in a structure or a tree, please collect the insects with the soldier caste, if possible. Sign of infestation includes powder post accumulation (drywood termites) or mud tub (subterranean termites)

Cue The Twilight Zone theme song

retiredguy123 02-19-2023 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 2189144)
STRUCTURE INFESTATION
If you find termite activity in a structure or a tree, please collect the insects with the soldier caste, if possible. Sign of infestation includes powder post accumulation (drywood termites) or mud tub (subterranean termites)

Subterranean termites construct soil tunnels to shield them from the light. The tunnels are often detected on the outside of a raised house with a crawl space. But, if they are living under a slab-on-grade house, you may not see any tunnels because they have direct access to door frames, baseboards, drywall, or other parts of the house without the need to use a tunnel.

Whether to get a termite contract is a personal decision, but there are some people who have had termites eating their house for years, and they have no idea that they are there.

Fastskiguy 02-19-2023 10:03 AM

Don't they just put Termidor (Fipronil) in a trench around your house and you're good for 10 years? I mean....there is the inspection but isn't that completely unnecessary?

Joe

retiredguy123 02-19-2023 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 2189229)
Don't they just put Termidor (Fipronil) in a trench around your house and you're good for 10 years? I mean....there is the inspection but isn't that completely unnecessary?

Joe

Typically, they don't dig a trench. They use a long metal conduit and inject the chemical in the soil every 16 inches around the perimeter of the house. Some houses may require holes to be drilled in the concrete slab. If it is done correctly, it will last 10 years. The termite contract covers an annual inspection and any retreatment or damage repair, if needed. If you trust the initial treatment, you could stop making the annual payments.

Fastskiguy 02-19-2023 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2189240)
Typically, they don't dig a trench. They use a long metal conduit and inject the chemical in the soil every 16 inches around the perimeter of the house. Some houses may require holes to be drilled in the concrete slab. If it is done correctly, it will last 10 years. The termite contract covers an annual inspection and any retreatment or damage repair, if needed. If you trust the initial treatment, you could stop making the annual payments.

10-4 thanks :)


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