Textured walls/ceilings - less costs more!

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Textured walls/ceilings - less costs more!
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Old 02-16-2019, 03:43 AM
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Default Textured walls/ceilings - less costs more!

We are thinking about building versus adopting a pre-loved home.

While discussing various options with the helpful folks “living” on the street of dreams (design center) it emerged that if I wanted smooth walls/ceilings it would cost $5,000 for that option!

I grew up during the Kodak era with nothing but smooth walls/ceilings (usually wallpapered but that’s another topic). When the option for textured prints became available I recall this one retailer who put it this way. “Just get the (I forget what the standard finish was called so...) “sharp” finish and if u decide you rather have textured prints then place then face down on the pavement and step on them.”

Well....that summed up his professional opinion regarding the new textured photo processing option....and I’m using that analogy to declare my preference for finished drywall!

The design center stated that all surfaces are default textured because it’s easier to repair dings that occur before the house is turned over to the buyer. ???

I did a bit of post discussion research. Drywall only comes smooth - one must texture the surface after it’s been installed. It appears the process involves applying a loose mud mix with a hopper gun then applying a coat of paint. Soooo....it’s more labor more steps to do textured.

Yet - to get just painted walls/ceilings it will cost more - $5,000. Seems crazy to me.

I’m thinking that maybe with textured walls they don’t tape the joints/screw holes and that’s the time savings that trumps just painting.

Does anyone know what the real deal is behind paying more for less?

My wife doesn’t care one way or the other...but doesn’t want to spend the 5k. To me...smooth walls look much sharper than textured. Plus textured - in my opinion - resides with the popcorn finish and I deplore that look.

I don’t want to spend the extra money either.....however.....I’m afraid that I will end up seeing a sidewalk everywhere in my house - except on the floor!

Thoughts comments?
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:20 AM
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News to me, too. And, I just bought a pre-owned, which we love. But, it has a few defects in the walls, which the previous owner tried to repair, but it didn't come out that great? It doesn't seem that simple to repair, as you have to try to match the "knock-down" plastered design? So, I'm with you on this one. Good luck!
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:31 AM
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Smooth walls are much more difficult and take a lot of skill which is why they do not do it and why it costs more. It is much easier for them to just texture them to hide all of the flaws. If you paint the walls a dark color you can sometimes still see the seams even with the texture.
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:52 AM
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I don't like the textured walls either, because it is difficult to repair dings and holes. But, textured walls are the standard in The Villages, so I would stick with it. The workers are just not used to installing smooth walls, and you could end up with an unacceptable result, with no recourse. Also, a smooth finish will show uneven and wavy drywall defects, especially on long walls and ceilings.
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Old 02-16-2019, 09:00 AM
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Smooth walls are much more difficult and take a lot of skill which is why they do not do it and why it costs more. It is much easier for them to just texture them to hide all of the flaws. If you paint the walls a dark color you can sometimes still see the seams even with the texture.
Exactly. It is more demanding to leave a smooth finish. It requires more work and attention to detail, and will take longer to repair the inevitable dings and scrapes.

I think 5K is a bit high, but it is more work.
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Old 02-16-2019, 09:01 AM
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Dry wall is smooth, but the most common size it comes in is 4 ft x 8 ft sheets. The seams that occur between the sheets are the problem. The seams are taped and drywall compound (sometimes called mud) is used to cover the seam. This is a very difficult procedure. To get a really smooth surface the mud must be sanded and repeated coats applied and sanded to feather out the seam. Otherwise you end up with a bump at every seam. Texture makes the seams easier to hide. To get a perfectly flat wall, a lot of man hours and skill need to be used.
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Old 02-16-2019, 09:16 AM
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Dry wall is smooth, but the most common size it comes in is 4 ft x 8 ft sheets. The seams that occur between the sheets are the problem. The seams are taped and drywall compound (sometimes called mud) is used to cover the seam. This is a very difficult procedure. To get a really smooth surface the mud must be sanded and repeated coats applied and sanded to feather out the seam. Otherwise you end up with a bump at every seam. Texture makes the seams easier to hide. To get a perfectly flat wall, a lot of man hours and skill need to be used.
This sounds very reasonable. They have a process, based on many, many, many, many hours of experience with not only materials, workers but customers as well. They do NOT build a custom house in the sense some might have experienced before, but they build a very good home. We are on our second new home here. We have built eleven new homes in our lifetime and we think this one is the most comfortable. (Except in the winter, the vents are on the ceiling because cold air FALLS and we have hot weather most of the time here in Florida)

When you opt to do a process not offered they charge WAY more to discourage it. THEY are VERY GOOD at warranty to stand behind problems presented to them. VERY GOOD. Just remember to approach them as you would any nice person.

I consider myself somewhat a person who is VERY interested in home décor and home interiors and I think the walls present a blank canvas for lovely pictures, and accessories and color to make them beautiful. I don't consider the texture a minus at all.

They aren't out to get you. We enjoyed building and watching the process every day. It is like a well orchestrated ballet. AND no more expensive in the end than buying a used home. Below is a picture of walls in first home in Hadley. Loved it. Love the one we are in now.
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:03 AM
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Indeed, it is far more work to make the walls smooth. While the sheetrock is 'smooth', it is still paper and won't look perfectly smooth if it is just painted. So, to get a smooth finish you actually have to put sheetrock 'mud' on the entire panel after finishing the seam, then you sand that entire layer. Then, you put mud on the entire wall again and sand the whole thing. Then any imperfection at walk thru requires a huge area of re-finishing to make it right.

I would guess that it is someplace between 4 and 10 times the amount of labor.

The reason that old houses up north had smooth walls is that they did not have sheetrock, but most were plaster and lath. The lath was thin strips of wood that were nailed to the studs, then plaster (heavy mud) was applied across the entire wall several times and sanded.
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:22 AM
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Any competent sheetrock hanger/finisher should have no difficulty achieving a smooth finish on the joints. If they do, hire someone else.
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:34 AM
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An aside to the OP: Or, you could just stay on your Nordhavn, a beautiful boat.
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