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Shirleevee 06-21-2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 270927)
IMHO - I am a native New Yorker, (Westchester County, not the city) who lived within driving distance of everything the city has to offer, (plays, museums) which some people consider to be culture in it's highest form.
I have visited the Statue of Liberty once and have been to the Empire Sate Building twice. I would be willing to say that a great majority of New Yorkers don't go to these cultured events as frequently as they claim but go home after a hard days work and watch television. It's nice to know that it is readily accessible. There is a vibrancy to the city in terms of having many places to visit if one has enough money to party seven nights a week. If someone moved away from this type of culture, a vacation to New York where they could attend as many of these functions as possible would be a way to look at it. My impression is that people in other parts of the country have taken vacations to see broadway plays, etc. that most New Yorkers have.
They only culture I care about is living in a place where the people are nice and willing to help others. Where there main goal in life is to stay healthy and happy and share their lives with people they care about.
To each his/her own.

People are as happy as they make up their minds to be. Abraham Lincoln

Culture to me? Riding the Staten Island Ferry from Staten Island to NYC and taking in all the beautiful sites......why it's almost as nice as driving around The Villages in our golf cart.

Pturner 06-21-2010 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 271082)
Other Brudda, we have a rich culture here, one that is steeped in information gathered over years of living, traveling, raising kids, working at our careers, doing our best, sometimes failing, crying, learning, forgiving and a LOT of laughter. I think that the culture here is one of great socialization and that the people who move here do not wish to live alone.

I think the culture here is hugely educated, many in formal academic settings and many in the school of life. We have a lot to learn from each other and a lot to share. We haven't reached the age of entry without forming some very solid and very stubborn ideas about things and we know enough to give each other a little room on issues.

I think we know how to drink tea and Manhattans, and even if we didn't grow up in Manhattan, we carry with us our culture, our background, our geographic origins. We are a diverse group, yet very similar. We have lived long enough to have learned a lot, seen a lot and forgotten a lot.. on purpose.

This is a perfect place and a perfect culture for me. A culture of new beginnings.

Wow. What an honor to call you my friend!

Pturner 06-21-2010 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 271097)
There is a club here called "Eating in the Raw". Can you imagine my embarrassment when I found it was raw vegetables they were talking about?

I hope you brought a fig leaf. :024:

whitevibe 03-23-2012 02:31 PM

town squares background radio "music" ?
 
Is there a chance perhaps of any form of classical, or fusion jazz, piano, instrumental, non-lyrical, unobtrusive, inspiring, uplifting, meditative, peaceful, patriotic, in other words any type of real music other than 'top 40's', would come across those speakers everywhere in town square land? What an environmental upgrade that would be to have some vestige of classy audio, not to mention another attractive enticement to potential future residents. If not, maybe after construction ceases, a poll could be taken for each square for surrounding residents to decide on a particular format or even a variety? On the visual and maintenance side of things, so glad to see more and more empire zoysia instead of floratam, a huge draw for us prospective types.

Bogie Shooter 03-23-2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by whitevibe (Post 470441)
Is there a chance perhaps of any form of classical, or fusion jazz, piano, instrumental, non-lyrical, unobtrusive, inspiring, uplifting, meditative, peaceful, patriotic, in other words any type of real music other than 'top 40's', would come across those speakers everywhere in town square land? What an environmental upgrade that would be to have some vestige of classy audio, not to mention another attractive enticement to potential future residents. If not, maybe after construction ceases, a poll could be taken for each square for surrounding residents to decide on a particular format or even a variety? On the visual and maintenance side of things, so glad to see more and more empire zoysia instead of floratam, a huge draw for us prospective types.

I like the music coming accross the speakers.

rubicon 03-23-2012 03:27 PM

I get all the culture I need from my yogurt. You want Broadway go back to Manhattan. It getting more and more expensive to live here. Yes I can afford to live here but it doesn't mean I want to cough up money everytime someone says "I'm borded"

graciegirl 03-23-2012 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by whitevibe (Post 470441)
Is there a chance perhaps of any form of classical, or fusion jazz, piano, instrumental, non-lyrical, unobtrusive, inspiring, uplifting, meditative, peaceful, patriotic, in other words any type of real music other than 'top 40's', would come across those speakers everywhere in town square land? What an environmental upgrade that would be to have some vestige of classy audio, not to mention another attractive enticement to potential future residents. If not, maybe after construction ceases, a poll could be taken for each square for surrounding residents to decide on a particular format or even a variety? On the visual and maintenance side of things, so glad to see more and more empire zoysia instead of floratam, a huge draw for us prospective types.

I like classics too, but I don't need elevator music played at the squares. I like to hear music from our youth, it makes me feel young.

I cannot even think for a moment how this place would be if we all had a say in things like this and I hope it never changes. Just let it be...it is really fine the way it is. In my humble opinion.

I don't think we need any more "enticements for prospective residents". The herd coming in is extremely plenty.

It is not a friendly hi to you, and I will say I am sorry, but this is my home town and I love it. I don't know if you are a villager or a prospective one, but welcome to the forum. We are a fiesty bunch, as you can see.

In the background can you hear "Night on Bald Mountain"?

whitevibe 03-23-2012 03:56 PM

Nothing wrong with lively debate, and thank you for the welcome. Still being a New Englander at heart, love to hear and share ideas with smart folks living where I'll be working.

buckscounty 03-23-2012 04:09 PM

Well said, I agree and good for you.

Pturner 03-23-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by whitevibe (Post 470441)
Is there a chance perhaps of any form of classical, or fusion jazz, piano, instrumental, non-lyrical, unobtrusive, inspiring, uplifting, meditative, peaceful, patriotic, in other words any type of real music other than 'top 40's', would come across those speakers everywhere in town square land? What an environmental upgrade that would be to have some vestige of classy audio, not to mention another attractive enticement to potential future residents. If not, maybe after construction ceases, a poll could be taken for each square for surrounding residents to decide on a particular format or even a variety? On the visual and maintenance side of things, so glad to see more and more empire zoysia instead of floratam, a huge draw for us prospective types.

Hi Whitevibe,
Welcome to TOTV!

It might seem like a good idea at first blush for the three different squares to have different types of music playing from the speakers. But fact is, the speakers at the squares are broadcasting the TV radio station. This is an economical and sensible plan. It enables the developer to promote TV from the broadcasts, ensure radio advertisers a larger audience (for which ad rates are set accordingly), and at the same time, contributes a pleasing and familiar ambiance for Villagers and guests at the squares.

Bill-n-Brillo 03-23-2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 470553)
.......contributes a pleasing and familiar ambiance for Villagers and guests at the squares.

And it's been mentioned here in the past that the music has 'evolved' as time has moved forward. Now playing more music that would appeal to people presently in their 50s - probably the focus of TV's current marketing efforts. That logic would make sense to me - play the music that will appeal to people in that age bracket.

Bill :)

Pturner 03-23-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 470557)
And it's been mentioned here in the past that the music has 'evolved' as time has moved forward. Now playing more music that would appeal to people presently in their 50s - probably the focus of TV's current marketing efforts. That logic would make sense to me - play the music that will appeal to people in that age bracket.

Bill :)

Yep. There are probably a thousand things The Villages does well. Marketing is one of them.

Jhooman 03-23-2012 07:46 PM

Well said!

hedoman 03-24-2012 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 269663)
to change....if they wanted to do so.
And oh yes, something significant is missing from the info...lack of culture as measured by what?

btk

Our culture is that we have no culture....we are not a megolopolis with ballet, opera etc. We have "cultural" centers in Orlando and Ocala. Our "culture" is quiet peace, golf cart fun and an active lifestyle. If that ain't culture what is? I think these people are wannbees but can'tbees 'cos they sunk everything into where they are....I have folks that visit for the first time and it takes weeks to wipe the grin off their faces from the WOW factor that is TV...THAT's OUR culture......

graciegirl 03-24-2012 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hedoman (Post 470704)
Our culture is that we have no culture....we are not a megolopolis with ballet, opera etc. We have "cultural" centers in Orlando and Ocala. Our "culture" is quiet peace, golf cart fun and an active lifestyle. If that ain't culture what is? I think these people are wannbees but can'tbees 'cos they sunk everything into where they are....I have folks that visit for the first time and it takes weeks to wipe the grin off their faces from the WOW factor that is TV...THAT's OUR culture......

If I were Swimdawg. I'd give you the award.

senior citizen 03-24-2012 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jtdraig (Post 269655)
Was perusing Graciegirl's discussion about finding the Villages and was reminded that we have friends in Sarasota and Venice who come up to visit once in a while and both have said "WELL, the Villages is very nice but there really is no culture here"...which puts me into a not so nice mood. I think we have a LOT of culture here and it's growing. :beer3:

We lived in Venice Florida and I can honestly say that the general population, at least the older ones who lived in the condos on the Esplanade which was directly on the Gulf of Mexico beachfront......were NOT as "young at heart" or in thought or deed as those who reside in THE VILLAGES.

A special breed of retired folks chose to call The Villages their home.

As for Sarasota, it has a lot going for it....the museum and such....etc., etc.

Maybe with your visitors it was just "sour grapes" because they don't live in THE VILLAGES.

We have "family members" who happen to be diehard Democrats who say something similar....."Well, it is very nice but we could not live with a bunch of Republicans". Or, "It is an adult fantasyland...but not for us."

Some think it is too neat and orderly. Can you imagine?
We thought it was perfect.

Go figure. Live and let live...........I would hope there is room for everyone's opinions and thoughts.....or pleasures in life. I'm sure there are many who do NOT choose to frequent the nightly town square entertainment....but to each his own.

We were given free tickets to the Philharmonic Orchestra , but it was the same day we had flown down from Vermont to Orlando, rented a car to drive north to TV, got lost finding the sales office in L.S.L.......got lost on the ROUNDABOUTS.....kept going back and forth over the bridge.....been taken to our rental designer home at Creekside Landing.......and just too exhausted to go.

Upon arrival, TV is quite "dizzy making."...........especially when one is up at 3 a.m. and the pilot announces he wants to de ice the plane a second time !

I'm sure the Savannah Center would have some "culture". Unless they meant by "culture" the great Cuban restaurants in Sarasota??? Again, go figure.

senior citizen 03-24-2012 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 470469)
I like classics too, but I don't need elevator music played at the squares. I like to hear music from our youth, it makes me feel young.

I cannot even think for a moment how this place would be if we all had a say in things like this and I hope it never changes. Just let it be...it is really fine the way it is. In my humble opinion.

I don't think we need any more "enticements for prospective residents". The herd coming in is extremely plenty.

It is not a friendly hi to you, and I will say I am sorry, but this is my home town and I love it. I don't know if you are a villager or a prospective one, but welcome to the forum. We are a fiesty bunch, as you can see.

In the background can you hear "Night on Bald Mountain"?


As you mention, the music from our youth is what my hubby expected to hear on his car radio......but apparently, it was of a different era, to him at least. He was expecting late 50's and the 60's.

Unless it was just a variety that day....with the older tunes later on.......

A question re music or performances in general:

After the 4 day lifestyle visit, we moved to a home near the Legacy C.C.
During the month of November's "full moon" there was supposed to be a "drumming" ceremony outdoors, someplace by the country club grounds or the golf course???? What is that all about???? Folks were asked to bring various "drumming instruments".

It rained that night and we actually didn't hear anything at all.
Gracie, do you know about the drummers who meet under a full moon?

NotGolfer 03-24-2012 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 470737)
We lived in Venice Florida and I can honestly say that the general population, at least the older ones who lived in the condos on the Esplanade which was directly on the Gulf of Mexico beachfront......were NOT as "young at heart" or in thought or deed as those who reside in THE VILLAGES.

A special breed of retired folks chose to call The Villages their home.

As for Sarasota, it has a lot going for it....the museum and such....etc., etc.

Maybe with your visitors it was just "sour grapes" because they don't live in THE VILLAGES.

We have "family members" who happen to be diehard Democrats who say something similar....."Well, it is very nice but we could not live with a bunch of Republicans". Or, "It is an adult fantasyland...but not for us."

Some think it is too neat and orderly. Can you imagine?
We thought it was perfect.

Go figure. Live and let live...........I would hope there is room for everyone's opinions and thoughts.....or pleasures in life. I'm sure there are many who do NOT choose to frequent the nightly town square entertainment....but to each his own.

We were given free tickets to the Philharmonic Orchestra , but it was the same day we had flown down from Vermont to Orlando, rented a car to drive north to TV, got lost finding the sales office in L.S.L.......got lost on the ROUNDABOUTS.....kept going back and forth over the bridge.....been taken to our rental designer home at Creekside Landing.......and just too exhausted to go.

Upon arrival, TV is quite "dizzy making."...........especially when one is up at 3 a.m. and the pilot announces he wants to de ice the plane a second time !

I'm sure the Savannah Center would have some "culture". Unless they meant by "culture" the great Cuban restaurants in Sarasota??? Again, go figure.

I love the above post. BUT that being said, this thread just had me shaking my head...or at least what the originator/post said re: their friends. Made me think years ago we had a friend say "I have LOTS of class, it's mostly lower!" Should we be insulted about this comment of NOT having "culture"??

senior citizen 03-24-2012 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hedoman (Post 470704)
Our culture is that we have no culture....we are not a megolopolis with ballet, opera etc. We have "cultural" centers in Orlando and Ocala. Our "culture" is quiet peace, golf cart fun and an active lifestyle. If that ain't culture what is? I think these people are wannbees but can'tbees 'cos they sunk everything into where they are....I have folks that visit for the first time and it takes weeks to wipe the grin off their faces from the WOW factor that is TV...THAT's OUR culture......

Well said. In our dating years we would go into New York City to the theatre or to eat at top restaurants for special occasions.......moved to Vermont in 1970 and never once missed the "culture"......although it's only a 45 minute to one hour ride away in Albany New York or in Saratoga Springs, New York or in the Berkshires of Massachusetts...........never bothered to go....as we discovered we enjoyed the small town lifestyle. Raising our family was our top priority and seeing our children's school performances , ballet recitals and now our grandchildren's performances, etc. fill the void of "lack of culture".
As you say, it is "out there" if one wants to find it..........but quiet peace is often preferable.

senior citizen 03-24-2012 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 470750)
I love the above post. BUT that being said, this thread just had me shaking my head...or at least what the originator/post said re: their friends. Made me think years ago we had a friend say "I have LOTS of class, it's mostly lower!" Should we be insulted about this comment of NOT having "culture"??

I'm not the one making you shake your head, right????

senior citizen 03-24-2012 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 470557)
And it's been mentioned here in the past that the music has 'evolved' as time has moved forward. Now playing more music that would appeal to people presently in their 50s - probably the focus of TV's current marketing efforts. That logic would make sense to me - play the music that will appeal to people in that age bracket.

Bill :)

Yes, that's exactly what we noticed. Were expecting "older" music.
So...it was geared to younger retirees.......makes sense.

It was still nice.

PaPaLarry 03-24-2012 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KayakerNC (Post 269781)
Not free, but check out Sirius or XM Satellite Radio.
3 Classical stations for your enjoyment, half a dozen country stations for mine.
I have it in my car and they just played some Hank Snow on the Roadhouse station. :pepper2:

And also, Comcast has music stations that are selective!!

Russ_Boston 03-24-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tweety Bird (Post 269774)
One MAIN thing that is missing is a good classical music station.

There is always XM for the car/cart. And, in the house, Comcast has very good classical selections.

whitevibe 03-24-2012 11:58 AM

And directv has pandora built into the menu now, very cool ...

NotGolfer 03-24-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 470760)
I'm not the one making you shake your head, right????

Not you!!! The remark made that the people didn't think "culture" could be found here! Since I'm responding...my spouse and I will say that the ambiance here is relaxed and casual. If "culture" is needed then as one other poster wrote...fly to NY for your special weekends then come back here and relax!

senior citizen 03-24-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 470949)
Not you!!! The remark made that the people didn't think "culture" could be found here! Since I'm responding...my spouse and I will say that the ambiance here is relaxed and casual. If "culture" is needed then as one other poster wrote...fly to NY for your special weekends then come back here and relax!

I didn't think so. I'm all for peace and relaxation......:smiley:

graciegirl 03-24-2012 03:59 PM

I love Rubicon's post that if he needed culture he got it from his yogurt.

We are our own brand here for sure. And I love it.

Midge538 03-24-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 470949)
If "culture" is needed then as one other poster wrote...fly to NY for your special weekends then come back here and relax!

Welcome to the 'new' courteous (since 2004) civility of TV!

ilovetv 03-24-2012 06:43 PM

I'm still stuck on the original post, wondering why somebody who comes to visit and who considers themselves "cultured" (or courteous) would say this to a "friend" living in TV:

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"WELL, the Villages is very nice but there really is no culture here"....


All a true friend has to say is "The Villages is very nice, but we're happy where we are.....we like all the cultural events/venues."

But then, maybe it would be a stretch to say "we're happy".

Happy people usually allow others to be happy while having a lifestyle/community that's different from their own.

Bill-n-Brillo 03-24-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 471049)
............All a true friend has to say is "The Villages is very nice, but we're happy where we are.....we like all the cultural events/venues."..........

The O.P.'s friends like living in the Sarasota/Venice area for their own reasons. They undoubtedly like what the area has to offer, be it things they feel are cultural, etc..............just the same as people who enjoy living in TV for what it has to offer......which IS different than what you'll find over by Sarasota.

Heck, TV would be completely overrun if EVERYBODY thought the place was perfect for them! :D

Bill :)

duffysmom 03-24-2012 07:55 PM

I have heard many negative comments about TV from people who have never been here. TV has everything I want and need to be happy so I can only pass on my joy about living here to others. I have a friend who fears that TV will not feed her culturally. So be it. After living in many beautiful places in my life time I am happy that I found by a place that feeds my soul.

graciegirl 03-24-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by duffysmom (Post 471073)
I have heard many negative comments about TV from people who have never been here. TV has everything I want and need to be happy so I can only pass on my joy about living here to others. I have a friend who fears that TV will not feed her culturally. So be it. After living in many beautiful places in my life time I am happy that I found by a place that feeds my soul.

And we are so happy that you are here. You are a good, kind, smart person. And you add your lovely culture to the mix.


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