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Jayhawk 06-13-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1958435)
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Our 8 blocks visited by the clipboards, 145 complaints in one day. Our cameras picked them up and have clear pics as they drove, walked our house. Later that month knock on the door, from very nice person about a complaint on our home.

So 145 complaints in one day? That is 18+ per hour or 1 complaint every 3 minutes including the time it takes to document the case. Who confirmed that for you?

Are you sure you have the facts on this? I haven't seen 145 violations in 5 years, much less in one day.

And who cares if it's 2 old ladies or Neighborhood Watch doing the reporting? Isn't a violation EACH AND EVERY RESIDENT agreed not to do still a violation?

Velvet 06-13-2021 11:57 AM

I think if you want to be “independent” or do your own thing or etc, don’t buy in a deed restricted place. It is not for you! It reminds me of people coming to this country, escaping the one they are leaving and then try to make this country similar to the one they left.

Ben Franklin 06-13-2021 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1958788)
Thank you! The poster was equating a cross on a lawn to being a grave marker. I was being sarcastic when I suggested that a cross on someone's necklace could be misinterpreted also. I found it ludicrous to suggest that a cross in someone's yard would suggest a grave marker.

When we were looking to buy here, my wife and I thought those crosses marked where people buried their pets.

Ben Franklin 06-13-2021 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1959035)
I think if you want to be “independent” or do your own thing or etc, don’t buy in a deed restricted place. It is not for you! It reminds me of people coming to this country, escaping the one they are leaving and then try to make this country similar to the one they left.

I remember people like that. It all started way back when.

Europeans came here and wanted it to be like Europe, so they started killing the natives.

asianthree 06-13-2021 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1959018)
So 145 complaints in one day? That is 18+ per hour or 1 complaint every 3 minutes including the time it takes to document the case. Who confirmed that for you?

Are you sure you have the facts on this? I haven't seen 145 violations in 5 years, much less in one day.

And who cares if it's 2 old ladies or Neighborhood Watch doing the reporting? Isn't a violation EACH AND EVERY RESIDENT agreed not to do still a violation?

At neighborhood block party it was the only discussion, they hit our house 3 days after the first person captured them on their outside cameras. We also have a internal website to all neighbors to post parties, illness and death so it was hot topic. Yes there were definitely, metal birds in flowers, one wagon, metal pinwheels, a watering can, and so on. White crosses were few and far between, so guessing many choose not to display them. However not every house got a notice, that had something in their flowers.

As I posted in post #69, I was notified, of supposed white cross in my Back Yard. However it was a branch on a plant that didn’t look like a cross at all. I was not fined or asked to remove. With the viewing from our cameras they were in and out of my lawn in under a minute. I have a video of the picture taking. Guessing fastest and efficient way take picture of address, and photo of lawn whatever, takes less than 30 seconds. Then return home and file the offending homes. Not rocket science in today’s world.

Bill14564 06-13-2021 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1959096)
At neighborhood block party it was the only discussion, they hit our house 3 days after the first person captured them on their outside cameras. We also have a internal website to all neighbors to post parties, illness and death so it was hot topic. Yes there were definitely, metal birds in flowers, one wagon, metal pinwheels, a watering can, and so on. White crosses were few and far between, so guessing many choose not to display them. However not every house got a notice, that had something in their flowers.

As I posted in post #69, I was notified, of supposed white cross in my Back Yard. However it was a branch on a plant that didn’t look like a cross at all. I was not fined or asked to remove. With the viewing from our cameras they were in and out of my lawn in under a minute. I have a video of the picture taking. Guessing fastest and efficient way take picture of address, and photo of lawn whatever, takes less than 30 seconds. Then return home and file the offending homes. Not rocket science in today’s world.

If they were in your yard then you might want to consider trespassing charges. Yes, it's petty, but so is driving around to random neighborhoods to find things to write complaints about.

roob1 06-13-2021 04:28 PM

Are they driving around to find things to complain about, or driving around locating possible violations of the covenants?

I believe the latter best describes it. And they are providing a free service to those of us who expect rule violations to be dealt with.

Their motivations are moot.


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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1959100)
If they were in your yard then you might want to consider trespassing charges. Yes, it's petty, but so is driving around to random neighborhoods to find things to write complaints about.


Tom52 06-13-2021 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1959096)
At neighborhood block party it was the only discussion, they hit our house 3 days after the first person captured them on their outside cameras. We also have a internal website to all neighbors to post parties, illness and death so it was hot topic. Yes there were definitely, metal birds in flowers, one wagon, metal pinwheels, a watering can, and so on. White crosses were few and far between, so guessing many choose not to display them. However not every house got a notice, that had something in their flowers.

As I posted in post #69, I was notified, of supposed white cross in my Back Yard. However it was a branch on a plant that didn’t look like a cross at all. I was not fined or asked to remove. With the viewing from our cameras they were in and out of my lawn in under a minute. I have a video of the picture taking. Guessing fastest and efficient way take picture of address, and photo of lawn whatever, takes less than 30 seconds. Then return home and file the offending homes. Not rocket science in today’s world.

If you have pictures of these trolls why not post a few? If they trespassed into my yard that makes them fair game.

shut the front door 06-13-2021 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 1957885)
We follow the pet rules and do not have any lawn ornaments.

So does everyone on TOTV. And 99% of people on this site tip everyone they come in contact with at Christmas and always tip their servers at least 30%.

shut the front door 06-13-2021 04:55 PM

According to a few on this site, the clipboard trolls don't exist. I'm starting to think that they probably are the clipboard trolls.

Velvet 06-13-2021 04:59 PM

If rules are only enforced when violations are reported (it is cheaper than hiring inspectors) then such “volunteers” are offering a free service. But… once they come on your property they become trespassers.

asianthree 06-13-2021 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom52 (Post 1959153)
If you have pictures of these trolls why not post a few? If they trespassed into my yard that makes them fair game.

Pics have been posted in the past, nothing changed. In fact posters attacked the persons who posted the pictures accusing them of fabricating people, and flat out lying. The 2 posters have not posted since end of 2019, which was sad because they were wonderful people.
If they are in the easement of your property, you don’t have much recourse, coming from the sheriffs department.

Since my supposed cross was a plant branch, I was cleared of any wrong doing.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-13-2021 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1958802)
I suspect it has a lot to do with it being a cross.

I am not and have never been a Christian but I know that most people are Christians.

Maybe some non-Christians feel uncomfortable living in a predominately Christian community and they feel intimidated seeing numerous small crosses.

I'm not Christian. My neighborhood growing up was mostly Christian. I'm personally not comfortable with the idea that a "Christian" feels that it's appropriate to knowingly make people feel uncomfortable by displaying their religion on their front lawn. I would feel the same if it were someone displaying a pagan symbol, or a church of satan symbol, or a Jewish symbol. I feel religion is, and should be, a private matter between you and your deity and your church, if you have one.

But if you want to insist that your white cross SHOULD be on your lawn, then I will challenge you to accept a pagan symbol, a church of satan symbol, and a Jewish symbol on mine. If you can't accept those, then take the cross off your lawn. If you can accept them, then it's all good.

Velvet 06-13-2021 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1959175)
Pics have been posted in the past, nothing changed. In fact posters attacked the persons who posted the pictures accusing them of fabricating people, and flat out lying. The 2 posters have not posted since end of 2019, which was sad because they were wonderful people.
If they are in the easement of your property, you don’t have much recourse, coming from the sheriffs department.

Since my supposed cross was a plant branch, I was cleared of any wrong doing.

At first I laughed at your post, the way you described it… but then I thought of the inconvenience it caused you. Sorry you had to go through it.

JSR22 06-13-2021 06:46 PM

[QUOTE=shut the front door;1959167]So does everyone on TOTV. And 99% of people on this site tip everyone they come in contact with at Christmas and always tip their servers at least 30%.[/Q

ActuaIly have bgeen tipping at least 30% since we received the stimulus checks. I tip everyone who provides a service at the holidays!


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