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jimjamuser 08-25-2020 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1822386)
You know what I would like to see? All you paranoid people that have not yet realized that you cannot hide from a virus, just stay home and leave the rest of us alone. We are living life. We don’t walk around with masks over our faces that do no good anyway! If we get the virus we will deal with it. If we don’t we won’t. It’s just another virus with the same mortality rate as the flu. COVID-19 is not a death sentence for over 99% of us! You still don’t realize that this thing has been weaponized by the media for political purposes. So stay home if you choose but just be quiet about it!

Oh, bizzarro.

jimjamuser 08-25-2020 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FromNY (Post 1822388)
It may not be a death sentence but it messes up life. A friend had to postpone a hip replacement because of a positive test. Now will loss income for additional weeks or months. A Grandparent cannot hold the grandchild ,positive test. A trip overseas for a family celebration canceled. Positive test. Hours of concern when notified by a place of business that staff tested positive and You might want to get tested. Nope not a death sentence a life messed up. Those at risk do take precautions and do try to live. Those who still think this is like the flu...maybe you need to be quiet and just hang with others who are self-centered. We all need to be self responsible. Not insulting. Don't wear a mask fine stay away from those of us who do. Maybe we are positive and protecting you or your loved ones? Maybe we are choosing to live longer and not die an ugly painful death. Maybe we know if we get it that it will be death or worse living with horrid body results from it. Personally I would take having the flu over Covid-19.

Very, very correct. Good job! Kudos.

jimjamuser 08-25-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1822441)
I'm not one for conspiracy theories to begin with but this one would involve over the leaders of over 180 counties getting together behind closed doors.

The problem with simply staying home and being quiet about it is that every person that contracts the virus is a danger to every person that comes near him. if you pick up the virus by hanging out at a bar and then stop at a supermarket on your way home, you have possibly infected several other people, especially if you don't wear a mask. Masks mostly protect the people around the wearer. Now those people go home to family members and are a threat to them.

It may not be a death sentence for 99% of the people, but we don't often hear the statistics of how many people suffer permanent damage after contracting the virus. Some people have to be hospitalized which is not a pleasant experience. Also we all need to take into consideration that we are in an area with a large number of people that are at very high risk to die if they contract the virus.

The idea that social distancing and wearing masks will help stop the spread of the virus is accepted experts in over 180 countries. The longer this goes on, the longer these protocols will remain in place.

As for it being no different than the seasonal flu, I don't recall the seasonal fly lasting for eight months or more. I don't believe that the seasonal flu is as contagious as Covid-19. This virus spreads faster than any other that we have experienced.

The more people that follow the recommended guidelines, the better off we'll all be. It's not simply about you, it's about everyone around you.

Good solid post.

jimjamuser 08-25-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1822460)
My girlfriend’s parents three hours south of The Villages, ages 91 and 85, have been in the hospital fighting this virus for 17 days. Her dad is doing better and may be transferred to a rehab hospital today so he can learn to walk again. Her mother is sinking. I don’t think she is going to make it.

Yes, people die of the flu, often in the hospital, but not usually after long struggles like this to stay alive. They claim they stayed away from other people and wore masks and gloves. But they went to the barber shop and the beauty parlor and the nail salon, though there were precautions. The mom went shopping. She wore rubber gloves, then took them off for reuse, pulling on the possibly contaminated fingertips. They went out to dinner a couple times. They had a couple “safe” couples over. Two of those safe men now have the virus. The dad sat head to head with one guy who came over explaining something. No mask, but he was safe. The mom gave a big hug to the neighbors across the street, one of whom is on chemotherapy right now. So now he has it. Or did he give it to them? Who knows.

You are right that for most of us, it is no worse than a cold or the flu. You are right that the number who are in the hospital is perhaps overblown. But when the people who treat these sick people and give them rides and take their money at cash registers and do their nails for a living are at much higher risk of illness or even death, it should be sobering. If I were a nurse or a doctor, I would be seriously scared. If I were still teaching, as I was a few months ago, I would be very nervous.

I wish there were, say, a special color of shirt or hat that people could wear that symbolizes that the wearer doesn’t believe in all this and is making no attempt to avoid this sickness. Then those of us who are nervous could just quietly keep our distance.

Very well explained. And thank you for your service - teaching!

jimjamuser 08-25-2020 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1822631)
Don’t you mean the 3rd wave?

Not really. I'll stand by 2nd wave because we have never come back down from the earlier peak. Down a little but not close to a real bottom for the 1st wave. So, I see, in the Fall, that the US will see an increase toward or above our former wave peak. So, I am calling it a SECOND wave. ---Anyway, it is a trivial detail (2nd or 3rd). Better to look at the overall concept of a particular post.

Mleeja 08-25-2020 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1822699)
If you were given a jar of 100 jelly beans and two of them would cause your death, five of them would make you very ill, and twenty five of them would make you mildly ill, would you eat from that jar?

I would not. But if others wanted to, knock yourself out.

Carla B 08-25-2020 05:26 PM

Back to the OP's original post. Maybe there was contact tracing on the people who died and there was a direct link to another who had tested positive for CV.

Here is the gist of an article by Newsweek today, August 25, 2020 which ought to give everyone something to think about:

An outbreak of 60 coronavirus cases has been linked to a Maine wedding held August 7 in Millinocket, the York County jail in Alfred, and the Maplecrest Rehab Center in Madison, Maine.

A staff member at the jail attended the wedding reception, later testing positive. The jail is located 230 miles from the wedding and has a total of 18 cases among staff and inmates. The Rehab Center, 140 miles from Millinocket, has also been linked to the wedding reception and has four residents and two staff members so far testing positive. Of the 60 cases associated with the wedding, 83% of those have shown symptoms. The article further notes that mask-wearing was not widespread at the reception.

Choro&Swing, thanks for posting about your girl friend's parents. How awful for her and them and especially since they thought they were being safe.

jet10s 08-25-2020 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1822296)
I think it’s very hard (not impossible, but hard) to get It off something ( especially outdoors) unless you’re licking you’re finger’s all the time and not washing you’re hands. IMO it’s airborne and you walk through it or it’s gets directed you’re way and you inhale it. IMO when somebody coughs or sneezes 6 feet not going to be enough.

YOU ARE CORRECT THERE IS NO AND I REPEAT PROOF THAT ANYONE CAUGHT THE VIRUS FROM AN INANIMATE OBJECT -- hello -- just not true -- need a vector and host -- not a doorknob

jet10s 08-25-2020 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rmd2 (Post 1822537)
This is nothing like the regular flu. There can be many long term problems with lungs, heart and other organs.

WHAT THE POSTER IS SAYING -- IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM STAY -- please do not ask us all to endure what you have chosen for yourself

Carla B 08-25-2020 08:15 PM

[QUOTE=ts12755;1822837]What you wrote is the dumbest thing I've ever seen on this site. Everyone catches it from someone that had it.[/QUOTE

If it was so dumb, why do they (Health Dept.) continue to publish that information? I know someone in Texas who got it and they haven't figured out how. Nobody he knows has it. You also posted that you've had it. Do you know who from or where you got it? If so, please warn us so we can stay away.

Indydealmaker 08-26-2020 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1821924)
I notice that around 85-90% of the deaths from the Virus indicate the unfortunate victim had contact with a person who had had the virus! In today's reporting all 7 had been in contact with a person who had the virus. I then go by one of the Bar's in Sumter Landing and see the many who are not using 6 feet distance and don't have a mask on! Either they have not seen the statistics regarding the risks of that behavior or don't care. It may be really smart to think twice when you throw out the suggestions for control of your behavior?:ohdear:

How else does one become infected if not by contact with another human?

Indydealmaker 08-26-2020 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1822258)
I interpreted the OP's percentage as meaning direct personal contact with someone having the virus, versus getting it off of an object that an infected person touched.

Extremely rare to become infected by touching a surface.

tvbound 08-26-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 1822894)
Extremely rare to become infected by touching a surface.

While I understand that the obvious primary mode of transmission is person-to-person, I've yet to read anything recent that getting it from an object is "extremely rare."

What I keep seeing is a bit of waffling, with non-specific statements like this.

"It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes. This is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads, but we are still learning more about how this virus spreads."

How Coronavirus Spreads | CDC


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