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banjobob 06-23-2023 05:56 AM

I don’t have answer but I always tip at 20% for good service , more if exceptional service. I give the tip in cash to my server.

Sandy and Ed 06-23-2023 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2228843)
It never ends. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

Somewhat agree. Personally I don’t agree on a percentage basis for a tip. Took just as much to bring over a $15 plate of liver and onions as a $45 plate of filet mignon. In any case who the heck came up with the idea of putting a recommended tip on the bill?? .

Kelevision 06-23-2023 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2228836)
It depends on the restaurant. Tip pooling is legal, but only among tipped employees. Some people say that tips are shared with the kitchen and bussing staff, but that is illegal according to Federal law.

Wait staff A.) get taxed on 15% of their sales ( that may have risen to 20, I’m not sure) so if they get less than that, they’re actually paying taxes on money they didn’t make. It’s automatically deducted from their sales at the end of a shift. B.) they have to tip out what’s called tip share which goes to helpers like bartenders and bussers and the kitchen expeditor.

Sandy and Ed 06-23-2023 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2228925)
I don’t have answer but I always tip at 20% for good service , more if exceptional service. I give the tip in cash to my server.

Great!! Makes up for my max of 15%! Thanks for covering for me

Sandy and Ed 06-23-2023 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2228933)
Wait staff A.) get taxed on 15% of their sales ( that may have risen to 20, I’m not sure) so if they get less than that, they’re actually paying taxes on money they didn’t make. It’s automatically deducted from their sales at the end of a shift. B.) they have to tip out what’s called tip share which goes to helpers like bartenders and bussers and the kitchen expeditor.

Ok. Two contradicting comments. Which is gospel in Florida?

Nevinator 06-23-2023 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2228932)
Somewhat agree. Personally I don’t agree on a percentage basis for a tip. Took just as much to bring over a $15 plate of liver and onions as a $45 plate of filet mignon. In any case who the heck came up with the idea of putting a recommended tip on the bill?? .

I generally tip 20%, but the suggested tip amount, usually referenced with several examples at 15, 18, and 20% seem to be calculated differently at various restaurants. Some simply calculate the tip amounts based on the cost of the meal; others calculate the tip based on the “final bill” amount which includes all state/county taxes and sometimes some other fees.

I never include the taxes and other fees as a part of my bill for the purpose of tipping.

BrianL99 06-23-2023 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2228933)
Wait staff A.) get taxed on 15% of their sales ( that may have risen to 20, I’m not sure) so if they get less than that, they’re actually paying taxes on money they didn’t make. It’s automatically deducted from their sales at the end of a shift. B.) they have to tip out what’s called tip share which goes to helpers like bartenders and bussers and the kitchen expeditor.

Do you know if the moon is still made out of green cheese?

Bill14564 06-23-2023 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2228933)
Wait staff A.) get taxed on 15% of their sales ( that may have risen to 20, I’m not sure) so if they get less than that, they’re actually paying taxes on money they didn’t make. It’s automatically deducted from their sales at the end of a shift. B.) they have to tip out what’s called tip share which goes to helpers like bartenders and bussers and the kitchen expeditor.

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2228936)
Ok. Two contradicting comments. Which is gospel in Florida?

Neither are gospel in Florida. IRS rules are not that simple.

Tipped employees are required to report the amount of tips they receive to their employer. Reported tips are taxed as wages (makes sense).

Most businesses with tipped employees are required to determine if a reasonable amount of tips (8% per IRS 8027) were reported through the year. If not (if it looks like tips were under-reported) then at the end of the year they are required to perform a calculation based on a percentage of sales and "allocate" additional tips to employees on the W-2 form. The employee then can pay taxes on these allocated tips or provide sufficient documentation that they did not actually receive these tips.

"Tipping out" is a policy of an individual business. It is probably common practice for waiters to share tips with bussers and bartenders but I don't believe it is law (or gospel).

Ski Bum 06-23-2023 07:01 AM

For those 0%-15% tippers out there, just be sure to inform your wait staff of that when you sit down. If you are too embarrassed, just stay home.

Bill14564 06-23-2023 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2228932)
Somewhat agree. Personally I don’t agree on a percentage basis for a tip. Took just as much to bring over a $15 plate of liver and onions as a $45 plate of filet mignon. In any case who the heck came up with the idea of putting a recommended tip on the bill?? .

Someone who saw Americans trying to do math in their heads.

retiredguy123 06-23-2023 07:19 AM

Note that no one is required to pay income tax on tips that they did not earn. The IRS rule for servers is 8 percent of gross restaurant sales. A server can declare a lesser amount when they file their tax return, but they need to be prepared to prove it to the IRS, with contemporaneous records, if they are audited.

jparsoneau@aol.com 06-23-2023 07:32 AM

Leaving a 5% tip should be shameful

Chamo 06-23-2023 07:36 AM

Disgusting to only tip 5%. You should be ashamed of yourself. You should just stay home and cook for yourself and clean up your own mess.

rickaslin 06-23-2023 07:38 AM

5 % Tipper
 
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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2228842)
Good question. But this is the Villages…many cheap tippers here. My guess..75% tip almost nothing or substandard tips. 20% tip the recommended amount. 5% tip too much and love to brag on totv that they are as generous as Frank Sinatra in his heyday.

Personally…i tip no more than 5%. Why tip to just bring a plate over.

Time to stop this tipping nonsence. Wait…next year it will be suggested u tip 25%.

I hope the local wait staff see your comment on 5% tipping and give you the sevice that you deserve!!

jimkerr 06-23-2023 07:40 AM

I always tip a minimum of 20% for any food establishment. Some restaurants take the 3% credit card fee they get charged out of the wait staffs tips. FMK does this for example. I tried to get an explanation from FMK on their Facebook page, they deleted my comment. :)


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