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Josephjmarchese 06-24-2023 11:41 AM

My dad used to say tip stands for “to insure promptness”, ie: to give the customer the attention to make their visit comfortable.
Tipping has gotten out of hand at some venues. For example you go to a frozen yogurt store, fill your own cup, apply toppings and then go pay and be expected to tip the cashier. For what? Taking your money? I agree big tippers like others say, are showing off and actually diminish services to reasonable tippers. I am a 20% guy, unless the service is terrible I will drop to 5% and percentages in between. I like to support those hard working people who can use extra bucks, but not because they are simply there, but because they are doing their job. One waitress moved us to a better table at Cody’s lake Sumter, she reminded me several times her doing so should be rewarded, which I was originally planning to do. Her insistence and subsequent poor service resulted in two things 1) a 10% tip (should have been 0) and 2) I don’t got to Cody’s LS restaurant and just stay at bar where service is good

VApeople 06-24-2023 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2229099)
Do you tip when you carry out?

Yes, of course. We have had a Jersey Mike's open up at Lake Deaton Plaza and we go there a lot. We tip 25% when we get a couple of their delicious subs.

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2229099)
25%…that is ridiculous. For what? Just because they smiled at you?

To be honest, I think the reason they smile at us is because we smile at them first.

VApeople 06-24-2023 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Josephjmarchese (Post 2229275)
One waitress moved us to a better table at Cody’s lake Sumter, she reminded me several times her doing so should be rewarded

We went to Cody's a couple weeks ago but it was too loud inside and our waitress moved us to a nice table outside. She was a very good hard-working server and we gave her a good tip.

We like going to Cody's a lot. We once had a dinner at Red Sauce and my wife threw up that night, so we haven't gone back since.

Worldseries27 06-24-2023 12:25 PM

For all bad tippers and whiners
 
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bs! Just because someone thinks holding restaurant customers for emotional ransom for what should be a gift is inherently wrong, does not mean they don't tip or are not generous in other areas of their life.

Oh, and if no one is listening, why did you bother to respond.??

to call bs . As sheldon says

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-24-2023 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2229281)
Yes, of course. We have had a Jersey Mike's open up at Lake Deaton Plaza and we go there a lot. We tip 25% when we get a couple of their delicious subs.



To be honest, I think the reason they smile at us is because we smile at them first.

Why would you tip someone who makes subs behind a counter? Are they putting the sub on a plate and bringing it to your table? Are they serving you your drink or do you have to use the self-serve? Do they bring you your napkin or do you have to serve that yourself too? Do they bus your table? Do they check on you during your meal to make sure everything tastes good and is satisfactory? Do they do anything that the guy behind the deli counter at Publix doesn't do? Those folks already get paid minimum wage or better. They don't rely on tips at all. There is no need to tip them at all. On the other hand if you toss a dollar, or the change from your total into the tip jar they'll appreciate it because it's a bonus on top of their regular pay.

If folks doing counter work continue to get more and more money from tips, their bosses will start considering them to be tipped employees and not hourly employees which means the boss can pay them LESS than minimum wage, and the employee now has to rely on those tips to equal minimum wage. It ceases to be a bonus.

retiredguy123 06-24-2023 12:56 PM

I tip for restaurant service, based on the quality of the service. Terrible service doesn't deserve any tip at all. I don't tip for counter service or pick up orders. People who say they tip 20 percent automatically, even for terrible service, are not taking advantage of the voluntary tipping system.

fdpaq0580 06-24-2023 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Worldseries27 (Post 2229293)
to call bs . As sheldon says

BS= business standard. Your attachment never came up, so I am afraid I missed the point.
Here is a thought that occurred to me while out for lunch at one of our average restaurants. Wife and I ordered mid-priced meals and drinks. Waitress brought 2 drinks and 2 plates. Our "tip" was $10.00. Using us Ave "average" customers, using the small amount of time she spent with us and the 5 tables we observers her serve in the 30 minutes we were there, she could easily have picked up $@50.00 in tips on top of her wage. A hundred dollars an hour for ten tables of two people in tips. 1 +- minute to take and place order. 1 minute to deliver drinks. 1 minute to deliver food. 1> minute to drop check. 1+- minute relieve payment.
Remember, you are not their only customer/tipper. Five, ten, or more dumping lots of tip money every hour. If they have agreed to tip-share with salaried employees, that is on them.
Maybe, just maybe (depending on where they work) they are doing better than we have been led to believe.

Spike380 06-24-2023 02:31 PM

5 percent tip-wow..
 
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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2228842)
Good question. But this is the Villages…many cheap tippers here. My guess..75% tip almost nothing or substandard tips. 20% tip the recommended amount. 5% tip too much and love to brag on totv that they are as generous as Frank Sinatra in his heyday.

Personally…i tip no more than 5%. Why tip to just bring a plate over.

Time to stop this tipping nonsence. Wait…next year it will be suggested u tip 25%.

Wow 5 percent???? Those waitresses do more than "bring you a plate". Thats what fast food places do. That waitress takes you order, checks on your order, serves you, refreshes your beverage/bread basket--and asks how your food was. IF you treat them nicely, they are just incredible people who work hard for very little. Your tip means a LOT to them-thats how they survive.

BrianL99 06-24-2023 02:48 PM

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.. Because Florida is an "at will" state, without its own labor department ...


.. the most they can get with unemployment is $150/week, for 26 weeks. That's it. That covers the utilities and phone bill. Good luck with your rent.

Do you just make up the stuff you post on your own or do you have help?

State Labor Offices | U.S. Department of Labor (There's the FL Labor Department.

& here's what you really collect in unemployment in Florida.

VApeople 06-24-2023 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2229295)
Why would you tip someone who makes subs behind a counter?

Because they work hard and they treat all of the customers very well.

mtdjed 06-24-2023 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by conman5652@aol.com (Post 2229033)
They do more then bring u a plate. Remember their pay per hour is less then half the current Fl minimum wage. So yes cheap people like u my be keeping good servers from working in the bubble.

The above comment is definitely not true if you are taking about servers. The current Florida minimum wage for non-tipped employees is $11.00 per hour. That, by the way is in the top third of minimum wages in the US.

There is separate Florida minimum wage for tipped employees. That by itself is $7.98 which by itself is well over half of the minimum wage of non-tipped employees. However, the law basically requires the employer to pay a supplement to the employee if the tips do not reach the same level of pay the non-tipped employee minimum wage provides.

The result is that the tipped employees are insured of getting at least as much as non-tipped employees. Further, the tipped employee can far exceed the $11.00 figure. For example, today my wife and myself went to Mallory and our bill was $29.75 including taxes. We were there about 45 minutes. We tipped $6.00 in cash and paid the bill by credit card ie $29.75. There were at least two other tables of 4 being serviced by this server. Assuming at least a $50 tab per table and 20 % tipping would be another $20 tip, ie $26 of tips in 1 hour.

Cash tipping is not just a nicety. What it does is potentially allow the server to avoid sharing the tip and to potentially reduce income and tax liability. If servers netted less than dishwashers, I'm sure they would not still be servers.

Also, we shouldn't assume all servers are paid Tipped employee minimum wages.

Rainger99 06-24-2023 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2229326)
Here is a thought that occurred to me while out for lunch at one of our average restaurants. Wife and I ordered mid-priced meals and drinks. Waitress brought 2 drinks and 2 plates. Our "tip" was $10.00. Using us Ave "average" customers, using the small amount of time she spent with us and the 5 tables we observers her serve in the 30 minutes we were there, she could easily have picked up $@50.00 in tips on top of her wage. A hundred dollars an hour for ten tables of two people in tips. 1 +- minute to take and place order. 1 minute to deliver drinks. 1 minute to deliver food. 1> minute to drop check. 1+- minute relieve payment.
Remember, you are not their only customer/tipper. Five, ten, or more dumping lots of tip money every hour. If they have agreed to tip-share with salaried employees, that is on them.

One of my friends owns a bar and restaurant. She said her employees do not want to be paid a living wage. They love tips.

She said on a good night her employees can earn $500 or more in tips and $250 on a slow night. Working just four nights a week with two good nights and two slow nights, a person can make $1500 a week. With four weeks off for vacation, they can make more than $72,000 a year.

Assuming an 8 hour shift and just four tables per waitress and a 2 hour turnover per table, that is 16 tables per shift. (These are conservative numbers.)

According to my calculations, at $100 per table in revenue, that is $1600 per night.

A 15% tip is $240, 18% is $288, 20% is &320, and 25% is $400.

BrianL99 06-24-2023 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2229369)
One of my friends owns a bar and restaurant. She said her employees do not want to be paid a living wage. They love tips.

She said on a good night her employees can earn $500 or more in tips and $250 on a slow night. Working just four nights a week with two good nights and two slow nights, a person can make $1500 a week. With four weeks off for vacation, they can make more than $72,000 a year.

Assuming an 8 hour shift and just four tables per waitress and a 2 hour turnover per table, that is 16 tables per shift. (These are conservative numbers.)

According to my calculations, at $100 per table in revenue, that is $1600 per night.

A 15% tip is $240, 18% is $288, 20% is &320, and 25% is $400.

If all the Servers in Central Florida who are making $72,000 a year decided to go on a road trip together, during their 4 weeks vacation, they could all fit in a golf cart.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-24-2023 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2229187)
For part-timers earning $300/week at their job, the most they can get with unemployment is $150/week, for 26 weeks.

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2229335)
Do you just make up the stuff you post on your own or do you have help?

State Labor Offices | U.S. Department of Labor (There's the FL Labor Department.

& here's what you really collect in unemployment in Florida.

Context is everything.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-24-2023 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2229345)
Because they work hard and they treat all of the customers very well.

That's why they get an hourly wage instead of sub-minimum relying on tips to equal that hourly wage.


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