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retiredguy123 12-05-2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 1870049)
I have always been under the impression our postal station employees actually have nothing to do with the USPS, government, pensions, or anything associated. Have I misunderstood ? I "think" I remember an actual post office employee at the large P.O. in Leesburg telling me that years ago; I had some kind of mail mix up and when they found out it was The Villages they said those employees have no connection to the USPS ! ? Wonder which is the real story ? I have always given the person at ours a lot more than $20, usually a Dunkin' or Starbucks coffee card, a Publix card, and a gasoline card (because she uses her own car, no USPS vehicle to pick up mail).

It is not correct that the postal station people have no connection with the USPS. They are USPS contractor employees. They are not official Government employees, but they are hired by the Federal Government. You can google USPS contractors and see approximately how much they make and their benefits. They make approximately the same hourly wage, but the main difference between Government employees and contractors is their benefits and job security. Regarding tipping, contract employees are not restricted in the amount of tips they can receive, but Government employees are restricted.

shut the front door 12-05-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Miriam2940 (Post 1869920)
Scrooge. These people get paid minimum wage and restaurant servers exist on tips. We are in the middle of a pandemic where everyone is hurting. Please tip.

Average Garbage Man Hourly Pay at Waste Management, Inc.
$18.38

jbrown132 12-05-2020 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1869959)
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the workers at our local postal stations contract workers, not USPS employees? If so, the rules posted earlier are moot. And to the person who posted that they are well paid...well, I think that’s debatable

Maybe that’s why it takes me a week and a half to two weeks to get a letter sent from New Hampshire if I get it at all.

retiredguy123 12-05-2020 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1869959)
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the workers at our local postal stations contract workers, not USPS employees? If so, the rules posted earlier are moot. And to the person who posted that they are well paid...well, I think that’s debatable

They make about $20 per hour.

Astron 12-05-2020 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gray lady of the sea (Post 1869958)
Don’t forget our garbage collectors that work so hard. I’m giving each of the 3 men on the truck $25
As others have said - whatever your budget allows will be appreciated

I looked up the “sanitation worker” job listing for Jacobs. They offer $20,000 to $32,000 for the job. Try raising a family on that this day and age. I plan to try to catch them and give them $20 apiece. Same for the lawn crew.

CWGUY 12-05-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Astron (Post 1870086)
I looked up the “sanitation worker” job listing for Jacobs. They offer $20,000 to $32,000 for the job. Try raising a family on that this day and age. I plan to try to catch them and give them $20 apiece. Same for the lawn crew.

:rolleyes: Why would you tip your lawn guy...... we just had a poster tell us they make $257.00 an hour. Now X 8 hours a day, X 5 days a week, X 50 weeks a year = over $500,000 Oh wait! Most work 52 weeks a year, 7 days a week, and a lot more than 8 hours a day...... I'm thinking we have a lot of Millionaire Lawn Guys driving around the Villages.

Poster also doesn't know the people at postal stations are private contract workers with low pay (have to bid) , no benefits, and no pensions. Every year I say it so here goes..... some people don't want to tip so they will try to justify that...... people that want to tip just do it.

RMarkland 12-05-2020 11:42 AM

I did a search of WasteManagement in Wildwood. Residential Driver
About
$63K - $68K/yr
Avg. Total Pay
About
$63K - $68K/yr
Base Pay
Based on 1 Salaries
Full Pay Details

Definitely not a minimum wage job.

linfrasco 12-05-2020 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by berbet (Post 1869786)
How much do you tip at Christmas for services such as lawn mowing, yard maintenance, housekeeping, paper delivery?

With regard to tipping, the highest tip I give is for our Daily Sun delivery driver. Why? She delivers the paper every day, in all kinds of weather and temperatures. She has to get up so early every day to complete her deliveries.

PugMom 12-05-2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1869844)
Would be nice to know what others think is reasonable. Never met the paper delivery guy but he does get the job done.

No idea how many mailman service our boxes. He does manage to cram some rather larger and heavy boxes into the side panel so he doesn t have to deliver to our house.

i do a card with $20 per person

Stu from NYC 12-05-2020 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by linfrasco (Post 1870108)
With regard to tipping, the highest tip I give is for our Daily Sun delivery driver. Why? She delivers the paper every day, in all kinds of weather and temperatures. She has to get up so early every day to complete her deliveries.

Assuming he or she gives us a card with address will send a tip. Whoever it is, is very reliable in delivering the paper.

Jerry Moran 12-05-2020 01:00 PM

Many of the people doing my work are not the same person every time and rotate between people...so who should get the tip?

photo1902 12-05-2020 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RMarkland (Post 1870107)
I did a search of WasteManagement in Wildwood. Residential Driver
About
$63K - $68K/yr
Avg. Total Pay
About
$63K - $68K/yr
Base Pay
Based on 1 Salaries
Full Pay Details

Definitely not a minimum wage job.

I’m calling BS. Where did you find that info for WM Wildwood Florida jobs?

flflowers 12-05-2020 01:16 PM

I make homemade peanut clusters and give each a treat bag of them....where I moved from, they always looked forward to getting it

Joe V. 12-05-2020 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1870154)
I’m calling BS. Where did you find that info for WM Wildwood Florida jobs?

I found it on Glassdoor. Whether it is true or not it is there.

newgirl 12-05-2020 02:18 PM

Please top your local store delivery people! They depend on tips for their income. I keep hearing stories about these guys delivering 27 turkeys plus another 180 items( over 300 pounds) carried door to door and was left with a 7 dollar tip, another girl carried a Bowflex and got a 2 dollar tip...if you tip wait staff 20 percent to have the bring you a plate of food then please tip the person that goes into the store to fill your requests, and hand delivers your order to your home in their own auto. These drivers work hard .

newgirl 12-05-2020 02:25 PM

Please tip your local store delivery people! They depend on tips for their income. I keep hearing stories about these guys delivering 27 turkeys plus another 180 items( over 300 pounds) carried door to door and was left with a 7 dollar tip, another girl carried a Bowflex and got a 2 dollar tip...if you tip wait staff 20 percent to have the bring you a plate of food then please tip the person that goes into the store to fill your requests, and hand delivers your order to your home in their own auto. These drivers work hard .

jbrown132 12-05-2020 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1870105)
:rolleyes: Why would you tip your lawn guy...... we just had a poster tell us they make $257.00 an hour. Now X 8 hours a day, X 5 days a week, X 50 weeks a year = over $500,000 Oh wait! Most work 52 weeks a year, 7 days a week, and a lot more than 8 hours a day...... I'm thinking we have a lot of Millionaire Lawn Guys driving around the Villages.

Poster also doesn't know the people at postal stations are private contract workers with low pay (have to bid) , no benefits, and no pensions. Every year I say it so here goes..... some people don't want to tip so they will try to justify that...... people that want to tip just do it.

You certainly took my post out of context. I said based on 44 visits to my home a year at 5 minutes a visit equals 220 minutes or 3.6 hours a year. I pay him $900 a year for that 3.6 hours or or about $250 hour. I don’t know how many other lawns he does or how many days a week he works. I’m sure he works hard but in my case I believe he is more than well compensated and that’s why I do not tip him.

Huskies 12-05-2020 03:42 PM

I give cleaning lady $100.00 and newspaper person $35.00

peggyb 12-05-2020 04:07 PM

My mail carrier and my newspaper delivery person leave a greeting card to me with their home address. I send them at least 25 each, sometimes more, and I also call the paper periodically during the year and drop a tip on my account for her. She does many stops and starts for me and my paper is there like clockwork. I really appreciate the service!

MrLonzo 12-05-2020 04:36 PM

I did many of these jobs, as a teen, part-time, summer jobs, etc. Shoveling snow, painting houses, washing cars, cutting grass, cleaning windows, raking leaves, walking dogs, etc. etc. The minimum wage was $1.25/hour. I never received any tips. My, have times changed!

Stu from NYC 12-05-2020 07:29 PM

Tipping has gotten out of hand.

People picking up our trash do get paid well and we do pay for the service. Exactly why should they be tipped unless they go out of their way to help me.

Take out places almost always have a tip jar on the counter. Exactly what are we tipping them for other than taking our money and writing out our order?

Irregardless of the above will tip certain people such as newspaper delivery person and mailman and probably guy who cuts our grass but this tipping thing is getting out of hand.

If people are not satisfied with their salary they have every right to look elsewhere.

When I was a kid had quite a few part time job and do not remember ever getting tipped.

Let the flaming begin.

jimjamuser 12-05-2020 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1870227)
Tipping has gotten out of hand.

People picking up our trash do get paid well and we do pay for the service. Exactly why should they be tipped unless they go out of their way to help me.

Take out places almost always have a tip jar on the counter. Exactly what are we tipping them for other than taking our money and writing out our order?

Irregardless of the above will tip certain people such as newspaper delivery person and mailman and probably guy who cuts our grass but this tipping thing is getting out of hand.

If people are not satisfied with their salary they have every right to look elsewhere.

When I was a kid had quite a few part time job and do not remember ever getting tipped.

Let the flaming begin.

Tipping is basically a stupid, primitive concept, like men wearing a necktie - totally antiquated and just a useless tradition. The sooner it goes away the better with me. So, I agree with you, and then some.

airdale2 12-06-2020 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1869968)
Why does the fedex guy get more than the ups guy?

Does the same crew do our trash pickups all year long?

Fed X guys are private contractors

dominojc 12-06-2020 06:22 AM

If they are not allowed to accept cash why do they send out cards with a return address which seems to me a way of eliciting gift giving... which I’m happy to do. They’re always very accommodating when it comes to our comings and goings. I appreciate the service.

riley2011 12-06-2020 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Miriam2940 (Post 1869920)
Scrooge. These people get paid minimum wage and restaurant servers exist on tips. We are in the middle of a pandemic where everyone is hurting. Please tip.

How do you how much they are getting paid?

DONKEY10 12-06-2020 06:59 AM

Nothing! I worked in a hospital for 30 yrs and never got tipped. If you need tips to survive then you need to educate yourself and get a better career.

photo1902 12-06-2020 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DONKEY10 (Post 1870274)
Nothing! I worked in a hospital for 30 yrs and never got tipped. If you need tips to survive then you need to educate yourself and get a better career.

Wow. Just wow.

bill4952 12-06-2020 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by berbet (Post 1869786)
How much do you tip at Christmas for services such as lawn mowing, yard maintenance, housekeeping, paper delivery?

Good question. I give $100.00 and not sure that is enough.

richs631 12-06-2020 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rsenholzi (Post 1869965)
According to CNN money proper etiquette is the following
Housekeeper - 1 weeks pay
Trash $15-20 each
Gardener - $20-50
Hairdresser cost of 1 cut + small gift
Manicurist - cost of 1 session +small gift
Personal trainer- $25 or up to 1 weeks pay
Massage therapist- $50-$100 or cost of 1 session
Groomer - small gift + 1/4 to 1/2 cost of 1 session
Dog walker- cost of 1 session
Mail carrier - gifts under $20
If you get regular deliveries:
UPS- $15
FedEx - $25
Paper carrier - $15-25 for weekly ; $5-15 for weekend only
Hope this helps

Just curious, why does Fed ex get more than UPS

MrLonzo 12-06-2020 09:42 AM

When you give money to a service provider because they've given you service that you're happy with and you would gladly hire them again, it's called a 'tip'. When you give money because you think the provider is poor and in need, it's called 'alms'. Let's use the correct terminology!

retiredguy123 12-06-2020 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MrLonzo (Post 1870362)
When you give money to a service provider because they've given you service that you're happy with and you would gladly hire them again, it's called a 'tip'. When you give money because you think the provider is poor and in need, it's called 'alms'. Let's use the correct terminology!

That reminds me of the true story about a family who was always buying things for the "poor" elderly lady next door. Until her $600K+ bank statement was mistakely delivered to the family's mail box.

Judy n Ron 12-06-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Miriam2940 (Post 1869920)
Scrooge. These people get paid minimum wage and restaurant servers exist on tips. We are in the middle of a pandemic where everyone is hurting. Please tip.

Well I don't know of any postal worker or Fed Ex delivery guy who works for minimum wage. 40 years ago, earlier in my career, my neighbor was earning 50K+ a year driving a Fed Ex truck and 2 of my HS classmates out earned everyone at the time as postal workers. I often wondered why I bothered with white collar work back then. Most of the lawn guys are self employed and can make 30-60 an hour depending on how fast they work. No need to throw the "scrooge" flag at people. Ron

Stu from NYC 12-06-2020 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Judy n Ron (Post 1870428)
Well I don't know of any postal worker or Fed Ex delivery guy who works for minimum wage. 40 years ago, earlier in my career, my neighbor was earning 50K+ a year driving a Fed Ex truck and 2 of my HS classmates out earned everyone at the time as postal workers. I often wondered why I bothered with white collar work back then. Most of the lawn guys are self employed and can make 30-60 an hour depending on how fast they work. No need to throw the "scrooge" flag at people. Ron

Right on

People seem to look down on people who did not graduate college.

Plumbers and Electricians usually make more than folks who graduated college.

shut the front door 12-06-2020 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1870154)
I’m calling BS. Where did you find that info for WM Wildwood Florida jobs?

You can call it whatever you wish. If you took the time to do the research, which I did and posted earlier in this thread, you wouldn't need to call anything. Even the guys who don't drive the truck average $18 an hour.

Roron123 12-06-2020 02:01 PM

Yes my husband always hands them a soda when they pass by

photo1902 12-06-2020 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 1870435)
You can call it whatever you wish. If you took the time to do the research, which I did and posted earlier in this thread, you wouldn't need to call anything. Even the guys who don't drive the truck average $18 an hour.

Good for you. Tip. Don’t tip. So someone is bringing home maybe $30k. Wow.

Stu from NYC 12-06-2020 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1870443)
Good for you. Tip. Don’t tip. So someone is bringing home maybe $30k. Wow.

Pretty good for a job that requires no skills just being agile enough to jump down from a truck to pick up bags of trash.

Parteeinga 12-06-2020 07:39 PM

This is from the USPS website. There are strict rules for government employees.

Employee Tipping and Gift-Receiving Policy

All postal employees, including carriers, must comply with the Standards of Ethical Conduct for Employees of the Exec*utive Branch. Under these federal regulations, carriers are permitted to accept a gift worth $20 or less from a customer per occasion, such as Christmas. However, cash and cash equivalents, such as checks or gift cards that can be exchanged for cash, must never be accepted in any amount. Furthermore, no employee may accept more than $50 worth of gifts from any one customer in any one calendar year period.

Vernon Hud 12-06-2020 08:48 PM

Tipping.
 
If you all feel so generous, why don't you go to Wall Mart, McDonalds, Wendy's etc., tip these people , they all make less than all the people you are talking about tipping. I worked at my job for 45 years, and no one ever tipped me.

lennyserio 12-07-2020 07:24 AM

Obviously you never held a service job. Share the wealth, it could be my granddaughter, or grandson!


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