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Larchap49 01-04-2023 08:34 AM
Tire age
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2172640)
I rotate tires every 5,000 miles my last set rated for 60,000 miles, changed at 75,000 my son now has the car with 125,000 tires/tread still good
Tread may be good but I'll bet they are past their expiration date, have dry rot and the rubber has hardened so they are very slippery in wet weather. It is time for him to replace the tires for his and his passengers safety.

RiderOnTheStorm 01-04-2023 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2172627)
I have a 2009 Mercedes ML SUV. When it had 105,000 miles on it I bought it new Michelin Premiere LTX tires. Not run flats, regular tires. It now has 129,000 miles on it. Yesterday I stopped at Sumter tire, because I had a low tire warning signal. A nice lady there aired up all my tires, then shocked me by saying the front tires were worn down to something that told her I needed new tires. I said there's hardly any miles on these tires, then she asked if I go around the roundabouts a lot. My other car, for years is an F-350 crew cab 4x4..... it gets new Michelins around every 100,000 miles. Needing new tires in 24,000 miles makes no sense to me, and if the roundabouts cause it, what about the back tires, they go around them too. Does this make any sense to anybody?

Do you verify that the tires were indeed worn to the extent Sumter Tire indicated?

Larchap49 01-04-2023 08:37 AM
Not likely
 
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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2172654)
Me again, the OP..... According to Google.... seems the Michelin Premiere LTX is the worst tire ever for wearing out prematurely. I'll take them back where I bought them and see if they will prorate the price toward new tires.
You stated it's front tire wear only, you drove them under inflated as the wear will indicate, and you didn't rotate. Not a tire defect and owner maintenance defect

Sgt Ed 01-04-2023 08:38 AM
Tire wear
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2172627)
I have a 2009 Mercedes ML SUV. When it had 105,000 miles on it I bought it new Michelin Premiere LTX tires. Not run flats, regular tires. It now has 129,000 miles on it. Yesterday I stopped at Sumter tire, because I had a low tire warning signal. A nice lady there aired up all my tires, then shocked me by saying the front tires were worn down to something that told her I needed new tires. I said there's hardly any miles on these tires, then she asked if I go around the roundabouts a lot. My other car, for years is an F-350 crew cab 4x4..... it gets new Michelins around every 100,000 miles. Needing new tires in 24,000 miles makes no sense to me, and if the roundabouts cause it, what about the back tires, they go around them too. Does this make any sense to anybody?
I doubt the roundabouts are the reason for accelerated wear. Many years in the auto repair industry leads me to this statement. Check tire pressure, low press is most likely the guilty culpret. Next check the alinement.If worn on either side there is a problem. Maybe slow down. Doubt that is a problem in an ML. BTW, I would carry 5lbs more air than recommended. They recommend a bit lower to improve the ride quality Rotation, ALL the does is make you replace all the tires at once. If a tire wears abnormally fix the problem,dont put another tire on there to do the same.

ron32162 01-04-2023 08:46 AM
These Michelin XLT tires are known for wearing out because of the materials used to make these tires and have many complaints. Not because of roundabouts.

ThirdOfFive 01-04-2023 08:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2172627)
I have a 2009 Mercedes ML SUV. When it had 105,000 miles on it I bought it new Michelin Premiere LTX tires. Not run flats, regular tires. It now has 129,000 miles on it. Yesterday I stopped at Sumter tire, because I had a low tire warning signal. A nice lady there aired up all my tires, then shocked me by saying the front tires were worn down to something that told her I needed new tires. I said there's hardly any miles on these tires, then she asked if I go around the roundabouts a lot. My other car, for years is an F-350 crew cab 4x4..... it gets new Michelins around every 100,000 miles. Needing new tires in 24,000 miles makes no sense to me, and if the roundabouts cause it, what about the back tires, they go around them too. Does this make any sense to anybody?
Yes, roundabouts, which here anyway are all counterclockwise, can put uneven wear on tires (one side will be worn down more than the other--something you can easily check yourself) but the higher the speed in a roundabout the more stress you put on that side of the tire.

Agree with many of the other posts: regular rotation (5,000 mile interval) and proper air in the tires will help them wear evenly.

We've had our Rav4 serviced by Sumter Tire and Auto since we moved here. Honest folks who have NEVER tried to sell us something we don't need.

HRDave 01-04-2023 08:59 AM
Front End Alignment
 
Sounds like you need a front end alignment. Were the tires worn more on the inside? That would require a camber adjustment. Fairly common as the suspension bushings begin to age.

MandoMan 01-04-2023 09:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2172627)
I have a 2009 Mercedes ML SUV. When it had 105,000 miles on it I bought it new Michelin Premiere LTX tires. Not run flats, regular tires. It now has 129,000 miles on it. Yesterday I stopped at Sumter tire, because I had a low tire warning signal. A nice lady there aired up all my tires, then shocked me by saying the front tires were worn down to something that told her I needed new tires. I said there's hardly any miles on these tires, then she asked if I go around the roundabouts a lot. My other car, for years is an F-350 crew cab 4x4..... it gets new Michelins around every 100,000 miles. Needing new tires in 24,000 miles makes no sense to me, and if the roundabouts cause it, what about the back tires, they go around them too. Does this make any sense to anybody?
I take roundabouts at about 20 mph, and I use a lot of them. Yes, that will definitely cause a lot more tire wear than driving on good straight roads. On the other hand, potholes are rare in The Villages, compared to roads outside The Villages, so that helps a bit. I lived for decades in the mountains of Pennsylvania, and driving on twisty mountain roads was very hard on front tires. Rotating them helped. An SUV tends to be top heavy and have a lot of lean, so roundabouts will have even more of an effect on your tire wear.

Number 10 GI 01-04-2023 10:20 AM
You state that your vehicle has 120,000 miles on it, how many times have you had an alignment done on it? I don't buy the idea that occasional driving through round abouts would cause that much wear. You should have a recommended service schedule in your owners manual, have you read it and followed the recommendations? With proper mechanical maintenance most modern cars can last as much as 300,000 miles, some brands even more.

lcarullo 01-04-2023 11:14 AM
I bought a new Lincoln MKX with the same Michelin Premier tires. I only got 24000 miles on them before I had to replace the entire set. We are only here in The Villages 5-6 months/yr. so while round abouts don’t help it’s not the total problem. I then replaced them with Michelin Latitude and they were still on the car when I traded it in with 65K.

Daxdog 01-04-2023 11:18 AM
Tires
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2172627)
I have a 2009 Mercedes ML SUV. When it had 105,000 miles on it I bought it new Michelin Premiere LTX tires. Not run flats, regular tires. It now has 129,000 miles on it. Yesterday I stopped at Sumter tire, because I had a low tire warning signal. A nice lady there aired up all my tires, then shocked me by saying the front tires were worn down to something that told her I needed new tires. I said there's hardly any miles on these tires, then she asked if I go around the roundabouts a lot. My other car, for years is an F-350 crew cab 4x4..... it gets new Michelins around every 100,000 miles. Needing new tires in 24,000 miles makes no sense to me, and if the roundabouts cause it, what about the back tires, they go around them too. Does this make any sense to anybody?

Cold weather makes air contract, lowers pressure.

Road Apple 01-04-2023 12:36 PM
Contact a Mercedes dealer. They will tell you that 16-20,000 miles is expected on Mercedes tires. I was shocked to learn that. That’s for runflats. With regular tires, you’ll need a spare. Does your model have room for a spare?
That said, a Jeep dealer noticed the front tire wear on my wife’s Cherokee. Said it’s from TV roundabouts.
Who to believe??

vintageogauge 01-04-2023 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mkjelenbaas (Post 2172707)
This is a scam to sell more tires. - the Nissan dealership tried that one on me also - I rejected his theory and am still on original tires with plenty of tread left after 34,000 miles - don’t fall for it!!
The theory may be wrong but how can it be a scam to sell more tires, his tires were worn and that's why he needs new ones and is going to the Michelin dealer after reading that they wear prematurely. There is no scam involved, the young lady was giving here thoughts as to why they wore down, she didn't wrongly state that they were worn or he wouldn't be going back to Michelin. Another thing, remaining tread doesn't mean they are safe to drive on especially in this climate. My wife's car had 41,000 miles at the 5 year mark and I got rid of them for her safety, still plenty of tread left on them.

Worldseries27 01-04-2023 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bay kid (Post 2172773)
my daughter wore out her rear tires 1st on her x7 bmw. I wonder why!
wheelies

PugMom 01-04-2023 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2172772)
I have a tire warning system, I suspect they were low because of the freezing weather, I don't usually run them low.
i'm curious, do you routinely rotate, like when you go for an oil change? that solved a prob i had years ago on a different car


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