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TVMayor 05-05-2015 09:27 PM

Has the enforcer filed charges against seat savers in the squares yet?

Villager Joyce 05-05-2015 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1056310)
Sounds to me like someone who was similarly burned for the same infraction.

Many of us were Having an informative discussion when this poster decided he/she would call out three of us for having been burned for the same infraction. I responded I didn't appreciate the accusation. He/she decided to then send nasty gram PMs. It's too bad some have to spoil it for the rest. One bad apple.

Bosoxfan 05-05-2015 09:48 PM

I was just on the district.org website .Nowhere is there a way to see these emails.

sunnyatlast 05-05-2015 09:51 PM

A man that studieth revenge keeps his own wounds green, which otherwise would heal and do well.

--Francis Bacon Quotes

patfla06 05-05-2015 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1056377)
this kind of vengeful power play crap is exactly why the villages needs to step up and enforce their own rules THAT THEY WROTE and then refused to enforce unless somebody complained. they're basically making us the watchdogs' and we have no training. you made the rules, t v. enforce them yourselves!!

You're absolutely right!

If you have rules then enforce them.

I can't imagine filing a complaint, but I also don't have neighbors
whose yards look crazy.

Ralphy 05-05-2015 11:12 PM

Just playing devil’s advocate!

Maybe this person was hit with a violation for some stupid thing like having a small stick American flag in a flower pot and sent in the 97 other violations to prove that a lot of people are violating this no lawn ornament deed restriction. As I drive around getting acquainted with TV, I see hundreds of lawn ornaments.

My example of the flag was a real example in a condo in Florida where the war veteran homeowner refused to remove it from his front porch and was fined $100 for each day until the fine totaled the max allowed by law of $1,000.

Down Sized 05-06-2015 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 1056420)
You're absolutely right!

If you have rules then enforce them.

I can't imagine filing a complaint, but I also don't have neighbors
whose yards look crazy.

I second this opinion!!!
We moved here BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTION !

Bonanza 05-06-2015 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 1056269)
I have found out who the person is, I have been given email, but a person who is going to at least 3 villages, would not talk. I have been told that the person is moving and does not care whats happens or who they anger! Malicious, YES, Mean, YES, downright ugly YES!!! have the common courtesy to talk to your neighbors!

Well, after this malicious person moves, the maligned homeowners should put their small statue (or whatever it is) back!

On a serious note, why aren't you mentioning this person? I don't know why you aren't doing that.

I am not a believer in anonymous complaints. I think that kind of system stinks! That gives carte blanche to anyone who has a beef with someone, to create a problem. I believe a better way is for the compliance people to report "real" violations when they see them. Heaven knows, they ride up and down ll of the streets and certainly have noticed the ones that are genuine violations.

drcar 05-06-2015 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 1056431)
Well, after this malicious person moves, the maligned homeowners should put their small statue (or whatever it is) back!

On a serious note, why aren't you mentioning this person? I don't know why you aren't doing that.

I am not a believer in anonymous complaints. I think that kind of system stinks! That gives carte blanche to anyone who has a beef with someone, to create a problem. I believe a better way is for the compliance people to report "real" violations when they see them. Heaven knows, they ride up and down ll of the streets and certainly have noticed the ones that are genuine violations.

I will NOT post their name or email address, TOV would stop the thread and take it down, ANYONE can see the email and the complaints if they call the Deed Compliance and request a copy of the email about the issues in Tamarind Grove.

Bryan 05-06-2015 04:41 AM

The "deed compliance" process is totally complaint driven. No violation is acted upon unless/until someone files a complaint. And yes, complaints may be filed anonymously. Some are, some aren't.

It would seem there are two simple fixes to this.

The first would be for those 97 homeowners (and all others) to read and follow the rules (this presumes there are actually 'deed restriction violations' involved - not a proven fact yet).

The second would be to change the rules to reflect the desires of homeowners in a particular area (a Village Community Development District) to allow lawn ornaments or whatever. Go to your district board of supervisors to get this done.

drcar 05-06-2015 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan (Post 1056439)
The "deed compliance" process is totally complaint driven. No violation is acted upon unless/until someone files a complaint. And yes, complaints may be filed anonymously. Some are, some aren't.

It would seem there are two simple fixes to this.

The first would be for those 97 homeowners (and all others) to read and follow the rules (this presumes there are actually 'deed restriction violations' involved - not a proven fact yet).

The second would be to change the rules to reflect the desires of homeowners in a particular area (a Village Community Development District) to allow lawn ornaments or whatever. Go to your district board of supervisors to get this done.

Thank You, you are correct on both points, I will be going to the district board meeting. I am not disagreeing with the fact that there were, are some violations, but a person flooding the office with 97 different complaints! The deed compliance office is afraid this will snowball.

dirtbanker 05-06-2015 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1056335)
"subtle, and expensive bronze statuary" is also acceptable in our historic neighborhoods.

Along with the junk golf carts piled around several of those "homes"...:jester:

mfp509 05-06-2015 06:42 AM

I have never agreed with Deed Compliance being complaint driven. I am retired and did not move here to police my neighborhood. Neighborhood Watch used to see a violation and leave a note on the person's door. Most of the time compliance was pretty quick. When it became complaint driven, things have gone downhill. Also, there is some procedure followed when dealing with a violation - don't know the exact details - but it involves so many warning letters and it's probably 30 to 45 days before the person has to comply. That is not effective. Don't understand why Neighborhood Watch cannot do this anymore. It seemed to work then.

looneycat 05-06-2015 06:45 AM

why keep harping on the number of complaints? if you have deed restriction violations it doesn't matter, fix them. I moved here because it is beautiful, I don't want to see the crap you think is nice spoiling that, it's as simple as that.

Bobcuse 05-06-2015 08:19 AM

Several good points on both sides of this issue. Opinions should be respected not condemned and these sensitive issues seem to bring out the worst in some people. I was on the receiving end of a complaint 4 years ago and the Community Watch guy said that someone had driven around several neighborhoods and listed several violations for very small items which in his opinion enhanced the landscaping, but he was simply the messenger. We all know taste is subjective and varies widely. I like the complaint driven system because it allows some decorations yet those who don't like looking at them can have them removed by complaining. I would love to see the rules changed to restrict complaints to residents living on the same street since they are the ones who see the decorations everyday. Most neighbors get along which would eliminate these nuisance vendetta driven purges we are seeing. (This should bring a hailstorm of comments)


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