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-   -   In Today's Daily Sun Thursday August 9,2012 (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/todays-daily-sun-thursday-august-9-2012-a-58207/)

Hank N Judy 08-11-2012 06:21 PM

How do you know your home would not have appreciated more if the signs were not there?
A lot of thanks for home appreciation in tv should go to Gary Morse & family. A few years ago everything else in Fl tanked.
So maybe everyone should pay attention to there wisdom.
Yes, this is my opinion & theory.

njbchbum 08-11-2012 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 538471)
Many of the posts on this thread supporting having signs, imply that home buyers are really stupid and don't know about local newspapers, Internet web sites by brokers, web sites by FSBO and flyers/advertisements piled up at supermarkets, restaurants, etc.
That just doesn't make sense...............of course what does about this sign issue.

only that the developer wants to enforce something he gave a board of supervisors the responsibility/authority to enforce - or not enforce - years ago. said boards having governed for all of these years - and now the developer thinks they are/will be incapable of governing themselves? maybe?

Bogie Shooter 08-11-2012 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 538476)
only that the developer wants to enforce something he gave a board of supervisors the responsibility/authority to enforce - or not enforce - years ago. said boards having governed for all of these years - and now the developer thinks they are/will be incapable of governing themselves? maybe?

Are there deed restrictions in New England and the Jersey Shore?

rubicon 08-12-2012 05:11 PM

An Unpleasant Surprise
 


On page 1 post #2 of this thread I had agreed with Jennifer Parr's opinion regarding the position the AAC took concerning the waiver of restictions on residential "for sale signs"

However I read the opinion of one villager in todays Daily Sun and to my unpleasant surprised it was signed Don Hahnfeldt. This guy is joined at the hip with the Developer and perhaps it is too strong a word to say, a synchophant, but when a guy like a long history with the Developer who has held and continues to hold leadership positions, writes an article that goes beyond support and enters a "I so sympathize with Jennifer.....causes me to pause and question motives ,sincereity and hence credibility.

I would have prefer and would have thrown my support further toward the Developer had this article been written by a villager with no direct relationship with the Developer

njbchbum 08-12-2012 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 538478)
Are there deed restrictions in New England and the Jersey Shore?

nope!

njbchbum 08-12-2012 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hank & judy (Post 538475)
How do you know your home would not have appreciated more if the signs were not there?
A lot of thanks for home appreciation in tv should go to Gary Morse & family. A few years ago everything else in Fl tanked.
So maybe everyone should pay attention to there wisdom.
Yes, this is my opinion & theory.

hank & judy - just who is it that evaluates the appreciation of one's property and on what is the appreciation based? please tell me. thanks

Warren Kiefer 08-12-2012 06:21 PM

Signs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 536744)
Jennifer Parr, daughter of the developer and vice president of The Villages Home Sales has made a rare if ever speech to the Amenity Authority Committee regarding the issue of signs and it was quoted in the newspaper today.

Would any of you off campus like for me to type it here for you to read?

What we are going to have as a final result is multiple and different rules from one District to the other, one having signs and the neighboring district having a no yard sign rule. You talk about a mess !!!!

Warren Kiefer 08-12-2012 06:31 PM

Letter to Editor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 539144)

On page 1 post #2 of this thread I had agreed with Jennifer Parr's opinion regarding the position the AAC took concerning the waiver of restictions on residential "for sale signs"

However I read the opinion of one villager in todays Daily Sun and to my unpleasant surprised it was signed Don Hahnfeldt. This guy is joined at the hip with the Developer and perhaps it is too strong a word to say, a synchophant, but when a guy like a long history with the Developer who has held and continues to hold leadership positions, writes an article that goes beyond support and enters a "I so sympathize with Jennifer.....causes me to pause and question motives ,sincereity and hence credibility.

I would have prefer and would have thrown my support further toward the Developer had this article been written by a villager with no direct relationship with the Developer

Amen Rubicon, you have it exactly right. I spotted this immediately and have known of this good old boy connection for years. I was equally upset that the writer took an unfair swipe at Carl Bell, a man I know who has a desire to do "what is right". This probably has a little something to do with Mr. Bell running for a county office against a favorite son.

cathyw 08-12-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 539179)
What we are going to have as a final result is multiple and different rules from one District to the other, one having signs and the neighboring district having a no yard sign rule. You talk about a mess !!!!

That's a possibility, but until the voting is held, we won't know.

Indydealmaker 08-12-2012 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moderator (Post 536810)
Just a reminder....full copyrighted articles can not be posted verbatim here...you can quote a few sentences but then must provide a link to the original site.

Sorry, them's the rules.

Thanks.... Moderator

How about modifying those rules to take into consideration "fair use" exceptions?

big guy 08-13-2012 09:20 PM

I keep hearing that this is only for homes North of 466 but I live in District 5 which is south of 466 and there is a meeting on Aug 17 to vote on this matter. Whats this all about? Are we in or out?

njbchbum 08-13-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big guy (Post 539956)
I keep hearing that this is only for homes North of 466 but I live in District 5 which is south of 466 and there is a meeting on Aug 17 to vote on this matter. Whats this all about? Are we in or out?

big guy - your cdd is in the fray and the supvs mtg is aug 17.

you can click here VCDD Meetings/Agendas and it will take you to the district gov website for your cdd5

from there you can click on the agenda and on the agenda you will note the hilited agenda numbers - you can click on them to read the detail re same.

hope that helps. and don't forget to contact your supvs to let them know your opinion any time - whether it be pro or con re any issue.

PennBF 08-14-2012 09:18 AM

Simple
 
There is a simple answer to this debate. As the old famous statement said:FOLLOW THE MONEY..The question is who will benefit from restricting the advertising of resale homes for sale.? If anyone believes this is strictly a concern with appearance they should get real. There are TWO factions. Ones who are concerned with appearances and one that sees $$$$'s in the final answer. It is like two sides on a "rope pulling contest" one for appearance and the other for money. One side is made up of residents of N466 along with one made up of those that want the money They are allegedly on the residents side of the rope.. If appearance's win then one side of the $$$$ hopefull will reap the rewards and allegedly they are cheering for the win by the residents. If OK for sign's another side of the $$$$ hopefull will reap the rewards. GOOD LUCK..:mmmm:

Quietman 08-15-2012 08:34 AM

I think the issue should be that we can not just selectively enforce restrictions we all agreed to when we bought. If you want to have signs then have a referendum in your district and change the covenant.
But then that opens the door to changing all the covenants.
Personally if there is no enforcement, I'm going to look into renting out my lawn for political signs and also look into a fence for my back yard - it'll have to be a little on the high side since I have cats and face a busy street.

njbchbum 08-15-2012 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quietman (Post 540814)
I think the issue should be that we can not just selectively enforce restrictions we all agreed to when we bought. If you want to have signs then have a referendum in your district and change the covenant.
But then that opens the door to changing all the covenants.
Personally if there is no enforcement, I'm going to look into renting out my lawn for political signs and also look into a fence for my back yard - it'll have to be a little on the high side since I have cats and face a busy street.

quietman - if you knew what the deed restriction was and you knew that it was not enforced, why did you buy in the neighborhood anyway and why was it not a big enough deal before now to press for enforcement of the deed restriction?


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