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bkcunningham1 08-10-2012 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 537621)
i'm beginning to think the ban on for sale signs could be a boon to a new sandwich board sign business start-up and custom printed tee shirts! both could be worn around the squares in the evening or any other time of day!

Have you ever noticed how there is a corner at Spanish Springs Town Square that is the used golf cart for sale lot? Maybe the people with houses for sale can pick a corner and put their realty for sale signs on their golf carts and park on the square.

graciegirl 08-10-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 537635)
Have you ever noticed how there is a corner at Spanish Springs Town Square that is the used golf cart for sale lot? Maybe the people with houses for sale can pick a corner and put their realty for sale signs on their golf carts and park on the square.

There is no limit to American innovation. Go for it. I still am in support of the tattoo idea. I bet you could sell anything with that, bein' you are cute and young. AND SMART.

njbchbum 08-10-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 537628)
I was thinking of making a killing on tee shirts that say

There is no PEE in Lake Sumter.

got mine already! only i just used the letter P in my design. ;) got it from the husband/wife couple who makes them right up at vendor nite on the square! i'll wear it to crisper's when i return! it's great, gets a lot of laughs and i am sure you will do very well!!!

njbchbum 08-10-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 537635)
Have you ever noticed how there is a corner at Spanish Springs Town Square that is the used golf cart for sale lot? Maybe the people with houses for sale can pick a corner and put their realty for sale signs on their golf carts and park on the square.

like cathyw posted - thinking outside of the box is great!!!! :)

graciegirl 08-10-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 537647)
got mine already! only i just used the letter P in my design. ;) got it from the husband/wife couple who makes them right up at vendor nite on the square! i'll wear it to crisper's when i return! it's great, gets a lot of laughs and i am sure you will do very well!!!

Naw. I tried to make one out of one of my old shirts and the red paint ran. It looked like I was a victim of an ax murderer. I think I will stick to being retired.





I think Cathy W. is coming and is gonna beat on me for hijacking this thread. Getting under the bed.

Bogie Shooter 08-10-2012 10:08 AM

If I may be serious for a moment.........
 
In todays 8/10 Daily Sun in the article regarding the sign issue was some new information (at least to me).
By permitting for sale and for rent signs the ACC also said yes to political, yard sale, and any message anyone wants to put on a manufactured or homemade sign. Why? Once they choose to allow signs, they cannot pick and choose the content of those signs.

Won't all those other signs look nice???

ilovetv 08-10-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 537667)
In todays 8/10 Daily Sun in the article regarding the sign issue was some new information (at least to me).
By permitting for sale and for rent signs the ACC also said yes to political, yard sale, and any message anyone wants to put on a manufactured or homemade sign. Why? Once they choose to allow signs, they cannot pick and choose the content of those signs.

Won't all those other signs look nice???

Just as we've been saying all along.

njbchbum 08-10-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 537667)
In todays 8/10 Daily Sun in the article regarding the sign issue was some new information (at least to me).
By permitting for sale and for rent signs the ACC also said yes to political, yard sale, and any message anyone wants to put on a manufactured or homemade sign. Why? Once they choose to allow signs, they cannot pick and choose the content of those signs.

Won't all those other signs look nice???

if signage was already a deed restriction that was not enforced and did not result in the allegation you opted to include in your post - why should one expect anything different than previously?

Bogie Shooter 08-10-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 537729)
if signage was already a deed restriction that was not enforced and did not result in the allegation you opted to include in your post - why should one expect anything different than previously?

What do you refer to as an allegation?
I don't recall seeing any political signs.

cathyw 08-10-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 537650)
Naw. I tried to make one out of one of my old shirts and the red paint ran. It looked like I was a victim of an ax murderer. I think I will stick to being retired.





I think Cathy W. is coming and is gonna beat on me for hijacking this thread. Getting under the bed.

:a20:
Come on out Gracie....Hope you didn't see any pooping frogs under there...:):)

cathyw 08-10-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 536959)
Correct me if I am wrong Cathy. I don't think it is at Laurel Manor Rec Center..and I am not sure it is open to the public, but I could be wrong.

I think that it says that "Supervisors in districts that are responsible for deed restriction enforcement are being asked to decide if they want to enforce the the restriction on yard signs.

Supervisors in District 1 through 4 will hear the issue Friday at the Sumter Landing District Office Boardroom located at 1894 Laurel Manor Drive in The Villages.

District 1 meets at 8 a.m., followed by district 2 at 9:30 a.m., District 3 at 11:00 and District 4 at 1:30 p.m. District 5 meets Aug. 17 at 8 a.m. in the same location.

If you'd like to contact your supervisors to express your views on the sign issue, they can be reached at the following email addresses;

District 1: dist1board@district gov.org

District 2: dist2board@district gov.org.

District 3: dist3board@district gov.org

District 4: dist4board@district gov.org

District 5: dist5board@district gov.org." end of quote from The Daily Sun article August 9,2012


I attended the CDD3 meeting today. It doesn't look like we will have a decision on this issue any time soon. Both CDD2 and CDD3 decided NOT to vote on this issue at today's meetings. The developer has offered to allow 24x24 inch signs to be located outside the home. CDD's 2 and 3 have decided to wait and see the WRITTEN proposal from the developer, to see what,if any,restrictions there will be on these signs. They plan on reviewing the written proposal and possibly voting on it at NEXT months meeting.
Per the lawyer for the CDD's (Valerie Fuchs), each of the CDD's 1 thru 5, will have a SEPARATE VOTE. Therefore, we may still end up with disparites between Villages.
ALL VILLAS north of 466 are ALLOWED to have signs in their yards-- and no matter which way the votes go....the VILLAS north of 466 will STILL have that rule.

njbchbum 08-10-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 537756)
What do you refer to as an allegation?
I don't recall seeing any political signs.

allegation: "Won't all those other signs look nice???"; political, yard sale, messages, etc

i was asking - if there weren't "other" signs before - why would there be "other" signs in the future?

njbchbum 08-10-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cathyw (Post 537902)
I attended the CDD3 meeting today. It doesn't look like we will have a decision on this issue any time soon. Both CDD2 and CDD3 decided NOT to vote on this issue at today's meetings. The developer has offered to allow 24x24 inch signs to be located outside the home. CDD's 2 and 3 have decided to wait and see the WRITTEN proposal from the developer, to see what,if any,restrictions there will be on these signs. They plan on reviewing the written proposal and possibly voting on it at NEXT months meeting.
Per the lawyer for the CDD's (Valerie Fuchs), each of the CDD's 1 thru 5, will have a SEPARATE VOTE. Therefore, we may still end up with disparites between Villages.
ALL VILLAS north of 466 are ALLOWED to have signs in their yards-- and no matter which way the votes go....the VILLAS north of 466 will STILL have that rule.

good info - thanx for posting, cathyw. and re the villas - that's what mikeod was claiming all along - good to see that the cdds clarified, agree and are not challenging their "non-restriction"! i wonder how big the standard real estate sign is..............

Freedomtalks 08-11-2012 08:09 AM

Gail Lazenby, Supervisor for District 3, said it best, "For the past 20 years signs were allowed because it was in the Developer's Best Interestto allow signs and not stop them from being used." And now it is not, so........ you can draw your own conclusion. What I don't understand is we have somewhat set our standards over the last 20 years. The VCDD has been allowing For Sale and For Rent signs but they have also been forcing residents to remove "Don't Poop On My Lawn" or " Curb your Dog" signs all along. If a complaint is received they have gone to homes that had had some construction and is now completed and told the owner to remove the sign.

Now all of a sudden we are not allowed to go back to that. WHY???? Is it because it is just a way for VCDD to once again try and intimidate us into voting the way they want you to vote, for the Developer. I think that what the AAC and the Districts are doing right now is absolutely the best thing for the people of TV. They are not "Drinking the Kool-Aide" that is being spooned fed down their throats by the VCDD staff and they are making up their own mind. Don't get me wrong What the Developer has created is great, but he took all of the advantages of creating the VCDD Districts and made a lot of money from them, us and now he has to accept the other side of our self governing, as it should be.

What the Daily "My Name is Morse and I Approve This Message" Sun did not print is the 2nd
message that Ms. Parr delivered. And in part it was........"What are you all going to do when I am not here anymore to deal with these problems. My children are working in the business some but we won't be around forever so what are you going to do when we're gone?" ARE YOU KIDDING ME. What a slap in the face to all of those who serve on the AAC and the District Boards. I bet they didn't realize that they didn't have the brains to figure all of this out. Well, they do and by voting how they have they are showing that we can govern ourselves.

cathyw 08-11-2012 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Freedomtalks (Post 538079)
Gail Lazenby, Supervisor for District 3, said it best, "For the past 20 years signs were allowed because it was in the Developer's Best Interestto allow signs and not stop them from being used." And now it is not, so........ you can draw your own conclusion. What I don't understand is we have somewhat set our standards over the last 20 years. The VCDD has been allowing For Sale and For Rent signs but they have also been forcing residents to remove "Don't Poop On My Lawn" or " Curb your Dog" signs all along. If a complaint is received they have gone to homes that had had some construction and is now completed and told the owner to remove the sign.

Now all of a sudden we are not allowed to go back to that. WHY???? Is it because it is just a way for VCDD to once again try and intimidate us into voting the way they want you to vote, for the Developer. I think that what the AAC and the Districts are doing right now is absolutely the best thing for the people of TV. They are not "Drinking the Kool-Aide" that is being spooned fed down their throats by the VCDD staff and they are making up their own mind. Don't get me wrong What the Developer has created is great, but he took all of the advantages of creating the VCDD Districts and made a lot of money from them, us and now he has to accept the other side of our self governing, as it should be.

What the Daily "My Name is Morse and I Approve This Message" Sun did not print is the 2nd
message that Ms. Parr delivered. And in part it was........"What are you all going to do when I am not here anymore to deal with these problems. My children are working in the business some but we won't be around forever so what are you going to do when we're gone?" ARE YOU KIDDING ME. What a slap in the face to all of those who serve on the AAC and the District Boards. I bet they didn't realize that they didn't have the brains to figure all of this out. Well, they do and by voting how they have they are showing that we can govern ourselves.

Nothing has changed..YET. Everything is STILL in discussion mode. CDD's 2 and 3 both decided at yesterdays meetings NOT to vote on this issue at this time. They will wait and review the developers WRITTEN proposal and possibly VOTE at the next monthly meeting. Until then..everything is the same. Deed restrictions are COMPLAINT driven....it hasn't changed. The deveoper has proposed allowing 24x24 inch signs outside the home. Let's wait and see what happens after the CDD boards receive and review the WRITTEN proposal.
Each of the 5 CDD's are independent....they may not all vote the same...so we may end up with different restrictions in different CDD's.


BTW, at yesterdays meeting, Gail Lazenby, stated that if the vote was held now, he would vote to ENFORCE the NO SIGNS restriction. As it stands, the vote has been posponed until at least next month.


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