Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2441798)

Happens often. Yesterday, nearing a RB in right lane at 35, a car sped around me at high (45-50?), cut in front of me in the right lane. No sign of slowing, braking pushing in ahead of car coming around. He went straight ahead into the center lane, then cut back to the right lane to exit. Basically "straighten out the curve" of the traffic circle. These are community streets and roads, not race courses.
One incident I know, but we see idiots behind the wheel every time we go out. Can't wait for ai/robot chauffeur where every cyberdriver has the same safe view of every situation.

Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2441827)

Traffic circles have speed limits? I’m a whole lot more worried about those that change lanes while IN the circle. Twice recently other cars not staying in their lane and trying to take me out while in the circle. Meaning, them changing lanes while in the circle. A clear violation, where is Popo when you need them?

Originally Posted by Gil Chapin (Post 2441781)

Perhaps this has been covered (probably many times), but I didn't find it.

As one approaches most traffic circles, there is usually a traffic sign with a yellow diamond containing a traffic circle indicator above a typical speed limit sign, indicating a speed limit of 20 miles per hour.

It seems that most people loosely interpret those signs to mean the speed limit within the traffic circle is 20 mph.

Another interpretation might be that the speed limit sign is indeed a "normal" speed limit sign. By normal, I mean that it indicates the start of a new speed limit. In this case, the speed limit changes at the sign from 35 mph to 20 mph. That means that once the sign is passed the speed limit is immediately 20 mph, not only within the traffic circle, but also on the approach to the traffic circle at any point past the sign. That further implies that one must be doing no more than 20 mph when the speed limit sign is passed until another speed limit sign changes the speed limit again.

My observations suggest that no one, except me, has ever considered the latter interpretation, and many drivers barely make it into the 20s as they enter the traffic circle, with others never slowing down at all.

I realize this is a question for law enforcement, but I'm curious whether anyone else has wondered about this.

Gil Chapin

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2441798)

Happens often. Yesterday, nearing a RB in right lane at 35, a car sped around me at high (45-50?), cut in front of me in the right lane. No sign of slowing, braking pushing in ahead of car coming around. He went straight ahead into the center lane, then cut back to the right lane to exit. Basically "straighten out the curve" of the traffic circle. These are community streets and roads, not race courses.
One incident I know, but we see idiots behind the wheel every time we go out. Can't wait for ai/robot chauffeur where every cyberdriver has the same safe view of every situation.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2441789)

I wonder if the rain will stop by 7PM:duck:

Originally Posted by Berwin (Post 2441826)

Having been a deputy sheriff, I can say that, in Arkansas at least (where I was a LEO), the speed limit is in effect at the sign. I've known other LEOs who were sticklers for this (running up their ticket score) and others who were a lot more lenient and let you coast down to the limit once you passed the sign as long as it was safe.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2441798)

Happens often. Yesterday, nearing a RB in right lane at 35, a car sped around me at high (45-50?), cut in front of me in the right lane. No sign of slowing, braking pushing in ahead of car coming around. He went straight ahead into the center lane, then cut back to the right lane to exit. Basically "straighten out the curve" of the traffic circle. These are community streets and roads, not race courses.
One incident I know, but we see idiots behind the wheel every time we go out. Can't wait for ai/robot chauffeur where every cyberdriver has the same safe view of every situation.

Originally Posted by Gil Chapin (Post 2441781)

Perhaps this has been covered (probably many times), but I didn't find it.

As one approaches most traffic circles, there is usually a traffic sign with a yellow diamond containing a traffic circle indicator above a typical speed limit sign, indicating a speed limit of 20 miles per hour.

It seems that most people loosely interpret those signs to mean the speed limit within the traffic circle is 20 mph.

Another interpretation might be that the speed limit sign is indeed a "normal" speed limit sign. By normal, I mean that it indicates the start of a new speed limit. In this case, the speed limit changes at the sign from 35 mph to 20 mph. That means that once the sign is passed the speed limit is immediately 20 mph, not only within the traffic circle, but also on the approach to the traffic circle at any point past the sign. That further implies that one must be doing no more than 20 mph when the speed limit sign is passed until another speed limit sign changes the speed limit again.

My observations suggest that no one, except me, has ever considered the latter interpretation, and many drivers barely make it into the 20s as they enter the traffic circle, with others never slowing down at all.

I realize this is a question for law enforcement, but I'm curious whether anyone else has wondered about this.

Gil Chapin

Originally Posted by MicRoDrafting (Post 2441876)

RESPECTFULLY
I disagree with slowing
down to 20 mph at the sign.

the MUTCD, FDOT and IMSA classify this Yellow Background w Black Lettering Diamond shaped type of SIGN as “Advisory”, aka: a Warning to Traffic Conditions the motorist is Approaching, and …

… the Fact that there is a diagram of a Roundabout above the [advised] speed limit provides the reason for this posted sign.

this is NOT an opinion:
Presently Employed as

Transportation Engineering Technician Class II
City of Ocala Engineer’s Office
w “IMSA Traffic and Signage” Certification

Originally Posted by Gil Chapin (Post 2441781)

Perhaps this has been covered (probably many times), but I didn't find it.

As one approaches most traffic circles, there is usually a traffic sign with a yellow diamond containing a traffic circle indicator above a typical speed limit sign, indicating a speed limit of 20 miles per hour.

It seems that most people loosely interpret those signs to mean the speed limit within the traffic circle is 20 mph.

Another interpretation might be that the speed limit sign is indeed a "normal" speed limit sign. By normal, I mean that it indicates the start of a new speed limit. In this case, the speed limit changes at the sign from 35 mph to 20 mph. That means that once the sign is passed the speed limit is immediately 20 mph, not only within the traffic circle, but also on the approach to the traffic circle at any point past the sign. That further implies that one must be doing no more than 20 mph when the speed limit sign is passed until another speed limit sign changes the speed limit again.

My observations suggest that no one, except me, has ever considered the latter interpretation, and many drivers barely make it into the 20s as they enter the traffic circle, with others never slowing down at all.

I realize this is a question for law enforcement, but I'm curious whether anyone else has wondered about this.

Gil Chapin

Originally Posted by talonip (Post 2441866)

Who has the right of way sir?
Is the approaching and speeding vehicle or the vehicle in the RB?