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MandoMan 06-29-2025 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlR33 (Post 2441782)
Per Ai below. Having said that have you ever wondered why there is always that semi truck that overturns on a curve with a suggested yellow speed sign all around the curve?
“A yellow speed limit sign indicates an advisory speed, meaning it's a suggested safe speed for a specific condition, not a legally enforceable speed limit. These signs are typically used to warn drivers of hazards like curves, construction zones, or areas with reduced visibility. While not a legal requirement, exceeding the advisory speed and causing an accident could lead to liability for the driver.”

I usually take roundabouts at 20 mph, as I understand that to be the speed limit. I don’t recall seeing anyone take them faster. I stay strictly in the marked lane for where I want to go. Some people try to straighten out the curve by cutting into other lanes. That’s lazy, and it’s a bad idea. I would way that it would be unsafe to take those curves faster than 20 mph, assuming people stay in their lanes.

Taltarzac725 06-29-2025 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2442038)
I usually take roundabouts at 20 mph, as I understand that to be the speed limit. I don’t recall seeing anyone take them faster. I stay strictly in the marked lane for where I want to go. Some people try to straighten out the curve by cutting into other lanes. That’s lazy, and it’s a bad idea. I would way that it would be unsafe to take those curves faster than 20 mph, assuming people stay in their lanes.

I did see a dumped over dump truck years ago on Buena Vista going south near the entrance to Tall Trees. It took a dump.

Topspinmo 06-29-2025 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jalane (Post 2442001)
I think people stay in the right lane (instead of using the left lane when entering a RB and planning to exit at the 3rd exit) because people complain when a car crosses in front of them from them to exit at the 3rd exit.

Yes, If in right lane going to turn at first or second exit, nobody will be cutting them off, only when they try to go to 3rd exit it big problem IF traffic in circle.

CybrSage 06-29-2025 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 2441823)
If you drive the traffic circles at 10 mph then you are part of the problem not part of the solution. I try to get in and out of a roundabout as quickly as possible driving as close to 20 mph as possible. Also , all the turn signals being used improperly in the traffic circles is overwhelming. If you are in the proper lane for your exit there is no need for the use of blinkers. If you trust someone’s turn signal in a roundabout you’re rolling the dice!

Turn signals are required by law when making a turn. That is the most likely reason some people use them.
A good use is by Lane 1. When they need to exit a two lane circle, they must cross over Lane 2 to exit. A turn signal tells anyone in Lane 2 that they must slow down and let him exit the circle since Lane 1 has the right of way.
The above is for the two lane circles with both lanes having the ability to exit when "going straight".

CybrSage 06-29-2025 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by annecobb (Post 2441944)
But more importantly, there are folks with cars that have added exhaust sound enhancers, exhaust sound roarers, exhaust sound speakers for the individual that wants to sound like they are at NASCAR. I don't understand why we need mufflers with all these accessories of noise. It is disenchanting that this goes unchallenged because I have noticed several cars just cruising with these accessories. Florida mufflers are suppose to be around 68 decibels but this exceeds this as well. And I would imagine no one is interested in enforcing this.

For the same reason the older generations use glass packs and cherry bombs.

Bill14564 06-29-2025 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2442141)
Turn signals are required by law when making a turn. That is the most likely reason some people use them.
A good use is by Lane 1. When they need to exit a two lane circle, they must cross over Lane 2 to exit. A turn signal tells anyone in Lane 2 that they must slow down and let him exit the circle since Lane 1 has the right of way.
The above is for the two lane circles with both lanes having the ability to exit when "going straight".

Neither lane has the right of way. Both drivers have an obligation to avoid an accident.

Importantly, if both drivers are driving properly then there will be no conflict, no right of way to yield, and no potential accident to avoid. If they are not driving properly then all bets are off.

I wonder if any research has been done to compare accidents resulting from the lack of use of turn signals with accidents resulting from trusting a turn signal that had not been turned off.

golfing eagles 06-29-2025 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2442148)
Neither lane has the right of way. Both drivers have an obligation to avoid an accident.

Importantly, if both drivers are driving properly then there will be no conflict, no right of way to yield, and no potential accident to avoid. If they are not driving properly then all bets are off.

I wonder if any research has been done to compare accidents resulting from the lack of use of turn signals with accidents resulting from trusting a turn signal that had not been turned off.

That would be a great study. While I use my turn signals in a RB, I don't trust anyone else's turn signal and I don't expect anyone to trust mine.

fdpaq0580 06-29-2025 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2442148)
Neither lane has the right of way. Both drivers have an obligation to avoid an accident.

Importantly, if both drivers are driving properly then there will be no conflict, no right of way to yield, and no potential accident to avoid. If they are not driving properly then all bets are off.

I wonder if any research has been done to compare accidents resulting from the lack of use of turn signals with accidents resulting from trusting a turn signal that had not been turned off.

Maybe you could get a government grant for the study?

Topspinmo 06-30-2025 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LoveGolfing (Post 2441899)
There is nothing wrong with roundabouts, the problem is too many people not knowing how to drive in them. Making a right turn into a village from the left lane and cutting in front of someone in the right lane is totally unacceptable.

Vehicles in roundabout has right of way. Vehicle approaching roundabout HAS to yeild to ALL traffic in roundabout. The vehicle in right outside lane either entered roundabout without yielding to ALL traffic in roundabout or vehicle in right (outside lane was going to third exit which is wrong why got cut off. Think about it. If you yeild to all traffic and in right lane exit at first or second exit that situation will should never happen.

Bill14564 06-30-2025 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2442317)
Vehicles in roundabout has right of way. Vehicle approaching roundabout HAS to yeild to ALL traffic in roundabout. The vehicle in right outside lane either entered roundabout without yielding to ALL traffic in roundabout or vehicle in right (outside lane was going to third exit which is wrong why got cut off. Think about it. If you yeild to all traffic and in right lane exit at first or second exit that situation will should never happen.

One way it *could* happen: Vehicle in the outside races into the circle and overtakes the vehicle already in the inside lane. The vehicle in the outside lane (the one that is overtaking) would still be at fault for causing the conflict.

Marathon Man 07-01-2025 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mikreb (Post 2441834)
I believe the 20mph is for the roundabout, because there is no speed limit sign when exiting the roundabout indicating that you can resume 35mph.

I went through several roundabouts this morning. Every one of them had a sign after exiting that restored the speed limit to 35.

Topspinmo 07-01-2025 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2442333)
One way it *could* happen: Vehicle in the outside races into the circle and overtakes the vehicle already in the inside lane. The vehicle in the outside lane (the one that is overtaking) would still be at fault for causing the conflict.

Broke the yield rule. Racing in not yielding and cutting off traffic in roundabout.

Gil Chapin 07-01-2025 04:09 PM

Thanks for the responses to my original post.

For what it's worth, I try to make sure I'm going at no more than 20 mph as I enter the roundabout (that sign is not a suggestion), but I don't daudle in the roundabout - I maintain that 20 mph until after I exit in the appropriate lane (usually the one in which I used the roundabout). Although I believe the 20 mph speed limit on the approach means 20 mph at the sign, I feel the signs are too far ahead of the roundabout entry and would slow traffic more than necessary. I also feel that the primary purpose of a roundabout is to provide equal opportunity for entry from all directions, which requires that all approaching vehicles be prepared to enter at a speed of no more than 20 mph. It seems to me as if those using the "main" roads don't observe this as much as they should.

Many folks seem so intent on getting where they're going that they somehow miss those great big green signs that tell them which lane to use. Many others change lanes as they exit. Why not change lanes after you exit?

My own simple-minded rule that I try to follow is never to be in a roundabout next to another vehicle. That has served me well so far.

I tend to signal my intentions whenever I'm going to do something I'm not already doing. I wore out the turn signal switch in my previous vehicle, but I managed to replace it without triggering the airbag.

I'm only aware of one roundabout that doesn't have a 35 mph speed limit sign after exiting (where the normal speed limit is 35 mph), and that may be an oversight or the result of not yet replacing one that was damaged.

It's interesting to see others' opinions on matters like this. We've probably beaten it to death by now.

jimhoward 07-01-2025 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2442317)
Vehicles in roundabout has right of way. Vehicle approaching roundabout HAS to yeild to ALL traffic in roundabout. The vehicle in right outside lane either entered roundabout without yielding to ALL traffic in roundabout or vehicle in right (outside lane was going to third exit which is wrong why got cut off. Think about it. If you yeild to all traffic and in right lane exit at first or second exit that situation will should never happen.

You just described the two most common errors made by drivers in the outside lane of a RB. It happens continually every single day. I have learned to expect those things to happen and drive accordingly.

fdpaq0580 07-01-2025 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jimhoward (Post 2442633)
You just described the two most common errors made by drivers in the outside lane of a RB. It happens continually every single day. I have learned to expect those things to happen and drive accordingly.

Just goes to show how many idiots there are living among us. Be afraid. Be very afraid! Drive accordingly!

Marathon Man 07-02-2025 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by LoveGolfing (Post 2441899)
There is nothing wrong with roundabouts, the problem is too many people not knowing how to drive in them. Making a right turn into a village from the left lane and cutting in front of someone in the right lane is totally unacceptable.

This is too funny.

Topspinmo 07-02-2025 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2442720)
This is too funny.

You caught that too….

WiseSpender 07-07-2025 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2441922)
No you have not. Cars in the Tour de France take corners at an average speed of 25 mph, and they are designed for cornering.
70 mph is a ridiculous speed to claim. 40 maybe, if the care is designed with little or no lean like a Mini Cooper, but absolutely not 70.

I agree, it is nearly impossible to even take the curve at 35mph (except maybe a Corvette). I myself drive a small Chevy Spark and can barely keep 25mph through the entire roundabout without the car tires losing grip and drifting away from my intended lane.

Even with my heavier electric car (Chevy Bolt) can barely take the roundabout at 23mph.

NO WAY a car can do 70mph in a roundabout!

Whatnext 07-08-2025 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2442720)
This is too funny.

Sums it all up really.

jimbomaybe 07-08-2025 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2441827)
Traffic circles have speed limits? I’m a whole lot more worried about those that change lanes while IN the circle. Twice recently other cars not staying in their lane and trying to take me out while in the circle. Meaning, them changing lanes while in the circle. A clear violation, where is Popo when you need them?

My favorite is the people who flatten out the circle , entering in the outside lane , move to inside lane in the circle then exit in the outside lane

golfing eagles 07-08-2025 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2444074)
My favorite is the people who flatten out the circle , entering in the outside lane , move to inside lane in the circle then exit in the outside lane

What's even more fun is when they clip the inside curb with their driver's side wheels. They're the same driver's that cross 10 feet into oncoming traffic to pass a golf cart in the cart lane or come near the inside curb when making a left turn

BPRICE1234 07-12-2025 03:28 PM

The best thing to do is enter the roundabout at about 45 mph, change lanes several times, then act like everyone else is the problem. Just my bit of sarcasm.

fdpaq0580 07-13-2025 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BPRICE1234 (Post 2445019)
The best thing to do is enter the roundabout at about 45 mph, change lanes several times, then act like everyone else is the problem. Just my bit of sarcasm.

I thought you were serious! I see it all the time.


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