:police:I claim the #1 position.:wave:

I'm just wondering how a cop should reply to "I haven't had a ticket if 50 years" Sorry, but I'm with Gracie on this one.

Rollie

The ticket you have earned his response is totally uncalled for and unprofessional. I would file a complaint I would make the trip to court just to make sure it is noted to the Judge that the officer is unprofessional in his duties and lacks people skills.

After that, you could tilt at windmills.

Police work is like any other job, no one forced them to take it, risk is part of the job.

YEA, and you should thank YOUR lucky stars that they do!

I agree 10,000%

Ridiculous.

I started watching for this when it because a big subject on this forum and I would say that 99% of the drivers that I observe safely roll through stop signs.

Yes, I know what the law says. What I am saying is that almost no one observes the letter of the law. The few that do are on here screaming about. I have lived in several states and countries and I have seen this behavior everywhere. The Villages is no different and if people are being ticketed for it, it is only because the officer is having a bad day or the local government needs the money.

On top of that the response of the officer in this case was rude, disrespectful, uncalled for and unprofessional. Every person stopped by LE should be treated with the utmost respect and referred to as sir or ma'am unless they give reason to be treated otherwise. I know that they deal with a lot of crap out on the streets. I know the job is very difficult and I also know that they are trained to treat the public whom they serve with respect.

There are those that follow the rules and think of themselves as rule followers. There are those who look for any way they can to go around the rules and think the person in authority is stupid, wrong, and not needed.

The reason that I was tough on my kids and saw that they saw the gravity of certain situations and made it really hard sometimes, is that I wanted them to realize I meant what I said. So that they would respect authority. I told them and my grandkids I wouldn't bail them out, literally or figuratively, and so far we haven't had to do so. I was the authority figure during the formative years because their dad was flying around all over a good deal of the time.

I have never had occasion to personally witness any failure on the part of law enforcement, although I know it does happen that they can be bullies. We knew that some teachers would be tough and unfair and difficult, and we told our kids they could vent and we would listen, but they must do what the teacher expected and we would not go in to defend them if they didn't. All of us have had superiors who were nasty as hell, but if we want to keep a job we have to learn to do what we are told and what is expected sometimes. Rules are there for a reason.

Stop signs mean Stop. In a very quiet neighborhood, it may call for a very brief stop. A curtsy.

Very simple. He should have said, "Well, I'm very sorry sir, but you didn't stop at the stop sign and in my judgement you deserve this ticket. If you think otherwise, you can plead your case in court. Have a nice day sir".

You are right. This is where saying " You lying sack of ****" is best left unsaid.

If you want to hear abuse from an officer just get a speeding ticket in Wisconsin with Illinois plates.

Disgrace
 

I also like Lt.Wolfe, BUT believe it is a disgrace to "entrap" Villagers in order to raise revenue. There are plenty of speeders, reckless drivers to fill the cash register of the local court. It would be interesting to see the statistics of accidents from Carts not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign within a Village. I think the lady who said she had not had a ticket in 50 years was probably telling the truth and the deputy answer was comical but the real problem was using the ability to trap villager's actually trapping them . Sort of sounds like the town north of Ocala that was charged with being a speed trap or the old Ludwicky, Ga. where it was a national disgrace. Hopefully the Sheriff or Lt.Wolfe will recognize the foolishness of this and stop the practice. By the way we have never been stopped for a traffic or moving violation in over 50 years. :mornincoffee:

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Well I'm busy this week....................................

You're right.

I would also add.
I think a golf cart seat belt law would help keep people safe but the suggeston will anger others. I also think a bike helmet law would help keep bikers safe but will anger others too. Enforcing these laws would raise revenue and also keep people safe more so then a rolling stop with a golf cart.

Yep
 

Tomwed I agree with your points. We have a seat belt in our cart.I get a little frustrated with those that point to the risks that Officers take. Of course they do and we should all have deep appreciation for their dedication but that does not excuse this "trapping" citizens in order to raise revenue. So others should not lecture me that if I don't like this practice that I am "anti public service".
The Supervisors should assign them where they will do the most good to protect the public and sitting in a street in a Village waiting for an innocent cart driver to not come to a "total stop" at a inter village stop sign is not the best usage of an officer. :mornincoffee:

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Well said.

Customer service in this job is no different than any other..There are risks and aggravations in a large percentage of jobs.

What ever happened to the yield sign, a lot of the stop signs could actually be replaced with a yield sign and be a lot more sensible .

We'll need a course put on about "safe yielding" by TV. Based on what I see in the rotaries, we could have mayhem on our hands.

Personally I prefer yield signs but few know the correct etiquette.

I pay a lot to have the top of my head dyed bald! :wave:

I thought the bucket list comment was funny. I and I also think that running a stop sign is an accident waiting to happen. I've seen too many of them here between cars, golf carts and one of each. Not pretty and sometimes life-threatening. On the other hand, a neighbor was pulled over last week for "pausing too long" at the right on red at Morse and 466A where there have been many accidents. That one I just don't get.

Seriously? Is that traffic law on the books somewhere? In the northern states I've lived in, turning right on red was an option, not a must. I have a couple of times down here opted not to turn right on a red light when I didn't think it was safe.

Is it different in FL?

Seven pages of comments on a ticket? I did not read the last six pages, but I think we all need even more activities.

What answer did you expect after saying something so immaterial?

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Boy, that's the truth! ;)

And, I'll bet you that a whole bunch of folks would say this this response is rude, condescending, etc, etc. Bucket list response was funny.

I also thought the bucket list comment was funny.

Being pulled over for "pausing too long" to make a right turn on a red? That seems odd. Unless it was 3 AM and there were no other cars on the road.

I must say I thought it was very funny and as I read your post out loud to my husband (we live in close proximity to this area ), we laughed together and wondered what "I have not had a ticket in 50 years" had to do with the fact that you just admitted to the Officer you just rolled a stop sign. The bucket list comment was quick witted.

A friend of mine went to court over a speeding ticket. In an effort to get a reduced fine, he told the judge that he had never had a speeding ticket before this one. The judge asked him if that meant that he had never before gone over the speed limit. He told the judge that he had gone over the speed limit before. Then the judge told him he was lucky that this was his first ticket and did not reduce the fine.

I also want an answer to pausing too long making a right on red light situation.

I'm sure many times I'm the jerk up front who is not turning when I could. I can live with that.

But by pausing, I'm taking a chance on getting a ticket....... I'll change my ways.

People in this forum seem to be pretty good about finding and copying the exact law for others to read. Thanking you in advance.

Didn't you mean LEO's (law enforcement officer's)? I retired as one, my wife is Federal and my son is KCPD Swat. You've lost respect for Police Officer's? Remember that statement the next time something happens to you where you need their assistance.

I always let the person that I stopped, dictate what I did - if they were nice to me, usually I was nice to them and le them go with a warning; if not, I could make their day miserable. So don't categorize all LEO's together.

My thanks to you and your family for your service. I had a career where I didn't have to get up in the morning and my family worry about whether I would be home that evening. The few tickets I got I earned. I was polite to the officers and they to me. LEOs have my respect and gratitude.

You can probably also take not getting any sympathy from anyone on TOTV off your bucket list as well.

What the heck
 

This has gone far off the point with attempts at very poor quality jokes, angry readers saying how they deeply respect the police as though some do not and they are special, the question was and is: Is it the best use of the Sheriff's resources by placing them in a Village and having them sit and wait for someone not to come to a complete stop and give them a $166 ticket in order to increase revenue for the court and county business. This is not rocket science and does not require candidates for Mensa to answer the question. Can we stay on point and not use the site to brag of respect for police or make jokes. It really gets very tiresome. The fact that I have a life time gold card membership in the PBA has nothing to do with the question of priority of assignments for the police. How would you answer the question and why it is your opinion?:mornincoffee:

Penn, I agree with you. And, the OP hasn't posted since the thread was started. Part of me wonders if the thread shoud be closed.

One question that was asked: would we go to court of mail in payment. I would mail in payment and accept responsibility.

Actually, the OP described the situation concerning the ticket and asked this question, "Has anyone had a similar situation and did you go to court or mail in pyt." So the point of the thread is to give input to the OP about whether we have experienced a situation similar to theirs and, if so, how did we handle it? If you want everyone to stay on point, then that is what should be addressed.

This part's off topic also. The OP never asked what was the proper priority of the police. He asked if anyone else had gotten a ticket and if they'd gone to court over it.

This thread veered far off topic with many personally directed remarks and high emotion. Since the OPs specific question was never addressed, thread will be closed.