The cited code “allows a pedestrian, WITH A PERMITTED SIGNAL, to cross a roadway“ at a signalized intersection.

Does that mean the driver of a car can just hit a pedestrian who is illegally crossing? No. Duh. But does that mean a person who steps into the crosswalk without a “permitted signal” has the right-of-way? Absolutely not. It is NOT the law.

Now, regarding that dog pee...

yes, it's law. here's the actual law:

From the website where the actual law is published, by the actual state government:

Chapter 316 Section 130 - 2012 Florida Statutes - The Florida Senate

Seriously - it wasn't that hard to find it. And whaddya know - I was wrong about the part where I said traffic had to yield even if the pedestrian was on the other side of the road. Traffic has the right of way, in that case.

Read your own quote in the previous post: “When traffic control signals are not in place or in operation”.

I repeated more than once that I was talking about a signalized intersection when a vehicle has a green light. Still no right-of-way for the pedestrian. Thanks for quoting the law that proves my point.

By the way, previous post I referred you too should be pretty easy to find.

Pedestrians ALWAYS have the right of way

I give up. Now I really am off to the dog pee thread.

And the true arbitrator of the law and who is correct in this thread will be Dan Newlan :)

It's actually very simple.

If a dog jumps out of a moving car that's driving down the MMP, then wanders out to the solid white line in a roundabout to pee, the non-street legal golf cart barreling in the opposite direction of the roundabout at 32 mph, must swerve around the dog before coming to a complete stop and the duck on the curb waddling past the village gate that is down...has the right-of-way.

See how simple that is? :ho:


:D

K, not sure I can read any more, I’m dying of laughing already.

In Florida pedestrians in a crosswalk have the right of way. I believe it's a $100 fine to a driver. If they're on the multimodal trail walking across give him the benefit of the doubt and let him cross.

I realize pedestrians have the right of way "IF" they're in a controlled crosswalk OR if they've already stepped off the curb and are walking. In the case I was talking about it's not truly a "controlled" crosswalk as some are. The cross-traffic is supposed to stop (NOT the vehicles) to let them pass. The pedestrians I saw that day had stopped BUT were trying to flag the vehicles to stop so they could pass. THAT to me is like trying to be traffic controllers. That particular road is already hazardous due to the volumn of cars coming in off Stillwater and the round-about. Guess you'd have to come and try it for yourselves!! It can be crazy there and I have to wonder how many accidents happen at that area. I see cars stopping continually and motioning carts to go on---THAT is againest the law and you can also ask any sheriff in our area. It's the same as at the gate crossings!!

Very true. Pedestrians who walk in a crosswalk against a red light are in the wrong. They are illegally crossing the street, although in a crosswalk, but they are still wrong. The vehicle has the right of way with the green light.

Read the actual law which was quoted in the post above. Any pedestrian entering a crosswalk against a red light has a death wish and they will be dead wrong if they are killed by a vehicle who has the green light.

I just spewed coffee all over my computer screen. Thanks for the laugh!!!

Pedestrians always have the right of way. Period! I don't know why anyone would state otherwise. This is basic drivers education lesson 1. In every state, that's the law. Now for that intersection. Set at the outside bar at Sonny's, grab a drink and enjoy the show. Horn blowing and near misses are the norm. You can even hear drivers yelling at each other. It is the best entertainment in The Villages!

This excerpt is from Dan Newlin's website FAQ..........

"If a motor vehicle has a green light, pedestrians and bicyclists should yield the right of way to that vehicle. If a pedestrian or bicyclist is crossing a road at a location other than an intersection, and there is no traffic device directing or restricting traffic, the pedestrian or bicyclist should exercise reasonable control and judgment, and not presume an oncoming motor vehicle will yield to them."