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Fredster 08-31-2016 03:00 PM

Don't get me wrong, I am not for speeding,
or driving in an unsafe manner,
but there are so many people in TV that
drive their golf carts quite a bit over the 20 mph speed limits,
that I have to smile, when I read the number
of self righteous comments posted here!

golfing eagles 08-31-2016 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 1281293)
Don't get me wrong, I am not for speeding,
or driving in an unsafe manner,
but there are so many people in TV that
drive their golf carts quite a bit over the 20 mph speed limits,
that I have to smile, when I read the number
of self righteous comments posted here!

You're right---but also realize you have to INTENTIONALLY adjust your cart to over 20 in the first place. So if you have no intention of speeding in your cart and don't want that awful criminal charge noted above, leave your hands off the governor.

Carla B 08-31-2016 03:21 PM

Neighborhood street speed limits are 15 mph, at least in our neighborhood. No one obeys the speed limit until they're pulling into their own driveway.

MarkinMd 08-31-2016 03:22 PM

To the original poster: You did get a warning before you received the ticket. It was the 20 mph sign. (I have heard this from countless judges in traffic court).

Mikeod 08-31-2016 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1281298)
You're right---but also realize you have to INTENTIONALLY adjust your cart to over 20 in the first place. So if you have no intention of speeding in your cart and don't want that awful criminal charge noted above, leave your hands off the governor.

Not necessarily true. My cart was purchased new and I've never touched the governor. It came with a speedometer and it was capable of more than 20 mph.

Fredster 08-31-2016 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkinMd (Post 1281311)
To the original poster: You did get a warning before you received the ticket. It was the 20 mph sign. (I have heard this from countless judges in traffic court).

WOW, how many tickets have you gotten? LOL

golfing eagles 08-31-2016 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeod (Post 1281312)
Not necessarily true. My cart was purchased new and I've never touched the governor. It came with a speedometer and it was capable of more than 20 mph.

Mine too---21.6 mph slightly downhill. But I've been passed by carts (not LSVs) going at least 30. I believe the law states that the cart cannot be capable of going over 20 mph on level ground, but I could be wrong.

graciegirl 08-31-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1281315)
Mine too---21.6 mph slightly downhill. But I've been passed by carts (not LSVs) going at least 30. I believe the law states that the cart cannot be capable of going over 20 mph on level ground, but I could be wrong.

Hmmm . I'm thinking that the law says not to make it go over twenty. Most are capable of doing more than twenty.

golfing eagles 08-31-2016 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1281318)
Hmmm . I'm thinking that the law says not to make it go over twenty. Most are capable of doing more than twenty.

That may be true for a speeding ticket, but the charges have more to do with operating an unregistered motor vehicle, ie: a golf cart capable of going over 20. I suppose a LEO could pull you over going 10 mph just to check how fast the cart is capable of going, but there might be probable cause issues. Since we don't live in a police state, I doubt this would ever happen. Which makes me question the story of the guy who had to go through misdemeanor charges in court for going 22. I suspect he was going 26+, otherwise he probably would not have caught the attention of the sheriff's deputy.

big guy 08-31-2016 03:52 PM

I was on the Florida turnpike driving the speed limit, had my license, registration and insurance cards ready when the state trooper approached the car. I wasn't the least bit nervous because I hadn't done anything wrong....or so I thought. When he came back, he asked if I'd like to know why I was getting a ticket. "You bet", says I. He says it's because there is a plastic cover on the license plate that obscures the numbers when the sun is shining on it. All covers and frames around the plate that the dealer gives you, or with a college or sports team on them are illegal. I got a ticket for $213. I can't remember what the law says but the ticket is supposed to be less than what I paid. The law says that it's up to the individual officer whether a ticket is issued or not. I've never had an accident, a parking ticket or a moving violation. A warning would have been nice but he was having a bad day, was grumpy and took it out on me. So all of you with frames around your plates or a plastic cover beware, especially if you are on the turnpike and Officer Menendez :police: is on duty. I would have felt better if I was speeding and was ticketed for that.

big guy 08-31-2016 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1280909)
Thanks for the warning and sorry to hear of this. I guess 5 mph over is the new 9 mph over.

I saw a blurb (I think in the POA paper) by the Sumter County Sheriff saying that they are not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt and allowing 5 mph over the limit. He said that if you are going 2 or 3 mph over the limit, you will get a ticket.

golfing eagles 08-31-2016 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by big guy (Post 1281329)
I was on the Florida turnpike driving the speed limit, had my license, registration and insurance cards ready when the state trooper approached the car. I wasn't the least bit nervous because I hadn't done anything wrong....or so I thought. When he came back, he asked if I'd like to know why I was getting a ticket. "You bet", says I. He says it's because there is a plastic cover on the license plate that obscures the numbers when the sun is shining on it. All covers and frames around the plate that the dealer gives you, or with a college or sports team on them are illegal. I got a ticket for $213. I can't remember what the law says but the ticket is supposed to be less than what I paid. The law says that it's up to the individual officer whether a ticket is issued or not. I've never had an accident, a parking ticket or a moving violation. A warning would have been nice but he was having a bad day, was grumpy and took it out on me. So all of you with frames around your plates or a plastic cover beware, especially if you are on the turnpike and Officer Menendez :police: is on duty. I would have felt better if I was speeding and was ticketed for that.

Sorry, no sympathy here, those plastic covers are one of my pet peeves. They serve no purpose other than to conceal the tag # of the vehicle, which by law must be clearly displayed. If it were up to me I would fine $500 for the first offense, $1000 and 1 month suspension of license for the 2nd, and the 3rd would be a class B misdemeanor. If this sounds harsh, remember, these covers serve no purpose other than to intentionally violate the law, and I want to be able to get the plate # of some clown who tries to pull a hit and run.

golfing eagles 08-31-2016 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big guy (Post 1281331)
I saw a blurb (I think in the POA paper) by the Sumter County Sheriff saying that they are not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt and allowing 5 mph over the limit. He said that if you are going 2 or 3 mph over the limit, you will get a ticket.

I hope they have the world's most accurate radar guns and calibrate them frequently according to the manufacturer's guidelines. Otherwise, they will be spending a lot of time in court as judge after judge throws the case out.

2BNTV 08-31-2016 04:01 PM

I agree with the poster that said the LEO wrote the ticket for 26 in a 20 zone but the OP was going much faster.

One must pay the fine and could go to traffic school so it does not appear as points on their license and not get the subsequent increase on their insurance premium.

It's easier to pay the fine as you won't beat it in court. IMHO

Those who knowingly drive their carts faster than 20 MPH are going to be fined more heavily if they get caught.

I am happy that my cart cannot go more than 19.5 MPH and even if I were to be going downhill, the governor kicks in and slows to cart speed appropriately.

big guy 08-31-2016 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1281315)
Mine too---21.6 mph slightly downhill. But I've been passed by carts (not LSVs) going at least 30. I believe the law states that the cart cannot be capable of going over 20 mph on level ground, but I could be wrong.

If it can go more than 20 mph it should be a registered vehicle. So the high price of the ticket is for not having a registered vehicle. They told us that if our granddaughter was driving the golfcart and speeding (anything over 20), she would be ticketed and the record sent to NJ that she was driving an unregistered vehicle. It would go on her record and she wouldn't be able to get her license. She was 14 at the time and there always was an adult with her in the golf cart.


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