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davem4616 11-14-2020 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1860587)
My first flight out of John Wayne Airport in SoCal about 30 years ago, was quite the experience. After feeling like we were going straight up at takeoff, all of a sudden the engines lost power. I would swear we were going to crash. It turned out though, that what was happening was because of a local noise ordinance. I've since become used to flying out of there - kind of.

Steep takeoffs land JWA on ‘scariest airports’ list – Orange County Register

You feel the nose lifting up, and up, and up. Air carriers leave John Wayne at an angle of between 20 and 25 degrees, according to several accounts. That’s about twice as steep as the departure from other airports, often around 10 to 15 degrees.

Shortly after takeoff, you might feel a sudden sinking sensation. The pilot has just cut engine power by up to 15 percent, from the full blast of takeoff to the steady drive of the climb.


LOL...I had forgotten about that thrilling takeoff experience

Girlcopper 11-14-2020 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Klink1627 (Post 1860371)
:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?

Train tracks were there before your house. Why did you buy there?

George Page 11-14-2020 07:48 AM

Just for spite........
 
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Complaints will Surely result in more and longer whistle blows..........just for spite

huange@verizon.net 11-14-2020 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Klink1627 (Post 1860371)
:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?

Yeah, I moved into a house under the glide path at LAX. Couldn’t sue ‘em nor stop the flights. Decided to move to away. Think Florida was far enough?

Rzepecki 11-14-2020 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kathyspear (Post 1860576)
We lived in Calumet Grove for a year before moving to our current house. (Moved to be closer to my sister, not because of the trains.) I actually liked hearing the trains at night. (Never noticed them during the day.) I found it soothing. Different strokes ...

kathy

Ditto. I enjoy the train horns. I look forward to the cooler weather, opening the windows and hearing them more frequently. Very soothing sound.

justjim 11-14-2020 07:55 AM

Train whistle
 
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Originally Posted by Klink1627 (Post 1860371)
:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?

Legally you will be waisting your time and money trying to stop the trains from doing what they are required by law to do. That’s the bad news. Good news is over time you will get use to it. I grew up in a small town with a busy train track that literally divided our town of 4,900 in half. We lived four blocks away and we rarely paid attention to the trains except when we had to wait for 100 plus boxcars, coal cars and sometimes rail cars carrying brand new cars to pass through town. At one time I can remember a couple of passenger trains that rolled in from Chicago, but they were moved to a different track 20 miles east in the late 50’s. I understand Wildwood was quite a “train town” in the past but not near as much today. Noise can be a problem for some especially if you purchase a house near a busy train track, interstate, toll road or airport. Realtors don’t always disclose such noise unless you ask. During daylight hours living close to pickleball can be annoying too. Due diligence is a must when purchasing any property and occasionally even those with considerable experience will miss something. Fore.

Brondrisek 11-14-2020 08:06 AM

I live in Calumet Grove. Either I’m used to them or just can’t hear them. But there aren’t that many. Rare during the day and more frequent Saturday night.
I love the sound. Mournful yet, reminds me of traveling (back when we could).

Sherrilee 11-14-2020 08:09 AM

It’s for people’s safety— you would need to move. There are ambulances Sirens thru out the night on Morse....

giorgio1948 11-14-2020 08:29 AM

You should have...
 
realized and researched b4 purchasing as you already know.

Spalumbos62 11-14-2020 09:13 AM

Wow...you guys are a tough crowd. I think he was just inquiring or looking for some possible research help. I doubt he really thought he could sue.

ellenwelsh 11-14-2020 09:27 AM

Funny story about train horn
 
My late husband worked on the railroad and before I moved to The Villages we lived in a small town in Ohio. Whenever he was working on a train that came through our town he would sound the horn 10 shorts. It was dumbfounding for everybody there except for me and people who knew me.

airstreamingypsy 11-14-2020 09:32 AM

Does no one have a sense of humor anymore? clearly that was meant to be funny. Besides, I love laying in bed and hearing the train whistle off if the distance.... the post was tongue in cheek folks.

DonnaNi4os 11-14-2020 09:40 AM

I lived very close to a train station in NJ. No, there is nothing you can do to stop the warning horns. It’s a safety issue. The train was there before you were. Either adjust or move. Sorry I can’t be more encouraging other than to say that you will likely get used to it after a while.

Tom M 11-14-2020 09:47 AM

Okay, I'll throw in an actual possible solution. "Whistle-free zones" In my home town they have created whistle free zones. That required double-arm crossing bars that prevented someone from driving around them and even crossing arms to prevent pedestrians from crossing on the sidewalk. It was a bit of money for the equipment but the whistles stopped entirely.

Until you can get another solution, they won't be able to stop the whistles as they prevent needless accidents and deaths.

How to get the groundswell of support to do that? Don't know...

billthecpa 11-14-2020 10:00 AM

If I recall correctly, there is a sign at the RR crossing on Rt. 42...just east of 301....that says something like.....Danger: Train Horns Not Used. It is obvious that someone had the influence to silence the trains horns at that crossing. My guess is St. Mark Church which is nearby. There is no one else close by to whom it would really matter.

J1ceasar 11-14-2020 10:02 AM

Since the train has been here 100? years I fought the judge would side with you. plus the fact of safety , laws concerning trains , and the fact that you will get at least a $ 25,000 invoice from your lawyer , means MOVE if you don't like it.

car1chr2 11-14-2020 10:43 AM

Lived in Calumet. Got used to it.

rrb48310 11-14-2020 10:44 AM

I’m a retired locomotive engineer, posts here are correct, blowing the horn for road crossing in required by law (FRA like FAA). Very specific laws that require engineers how long to blow and where to start, that if not followed could result in punishment of time off without pay and fines. Then if hitting someone results in a fatality there is a “last chance” law that in short says, if the engineer didn’t do everything right he could be charged for manslaughter.

That being said I’ve operated through cities (at 79 mph) that had “whistle restrictions” where you only blew the horn in an emergency. The cities not the railroad put the whistle restrictions on and like someone posted, it’s expensive putting in the level of road crossing protection required. The community would have to foot the bill.

Topspinmo 11-14-2020 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 1860667)
Easy fix. Call the powers to be and they will have the horns stopped.


Or the tracks moved:MOJE_whot:

cassjax2 11-14-2020 11:21 AM

I’ve been in & out of John Wayne Airport several times but don’t remember about steep climbing.....
Probably because I hate takeoffs and landings because that’s where more things go wrong. 🤦🏻

Curtisbwp 11-14-2020 11:43 AM

Wow! The trains have been roiling on 301 for over a hundred years and now you want to sue them. I do not hear any trains. I, unlike many others, always do my homework. Before buying i survey the entire area, i review topical maps etc. I knew where the trains are, i know where the prison is and i know what i do not like. So i bought in a noise free place.

Don5154 11-14-2020 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Klink1627 (Post 1860371)
:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?

You just moved here a few months ago and already complaining about the train horns near the home you picked out......you did not do your home work! :bigbow:

bilcon 11-14-2020 01:07 PM

What happened, you didn't have a Lionel Train set when you were young? Required by law to blow whistle at crossing so they can wake the drunks who fall asleep on the tracks.

Joanne19335 11-14-2020 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Klink1627 (Post 1860371)
:MOJE_whot:Does anyone have information on possible legal action taken against the rail road over the constant train horn blasts along the 301 corridor that keep people awake all hours of the day?

I happen to like that far-away train whistle. BTW, the law states that when a train approaches a cross street, it is required to use the whistle. Two long blasts, followed by two short ones and another long one.

CWGUY 11-14-2020 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1860697)
If you buy a house without due diligence, then either you should have your children or guardian, help you make decisions, instead of blaming it on a sales rep for your inability to invest your money wisely.

:popcorn: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...light=talkhost

Eg_cruz 11-14-2020 04:31 PM

Haha......really

Velvet 11-14-2020 04:46 PM

Not everybody is familiar with railway behavior, especially if they have never lived near the tracks before. It is possible to under estimate the noise from the whistle and how far it might carry if you have never heard one.

If the noise really bothers one so much, the best solution is to move to a quieter place.

Dennys37Packard 11-14-2020 04:48 PM

Now that’s funny......😀😀😀😀

MaxCat 11-14-2020 07:21 PM

Seriously?
 
I had to re-read and look through a few other replies to see if this was really a serious question. Sheeesh . . . train has been here a long time — well before TV — had plenty of time to do your due diligence before purchasing. Or there was the option to go ahead and buy and then be a perennial complainer — but sue the train operators? Seriously? Sheeez. Definition of curmudgeon.

valuemkt 11-14-2020 08:16 PM

Curious how many miles from the tracks you live

SIRE1 11-14-2020 10:51 PM

I believe I read here where someone who bought near the turnpike wanted The Villages to build a berm to block the noise. Sure hope they don't want us to build a berm from Ocala to Tampa to block the train noise !!!!!! :pray:

BobnBev 11-15-2020 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kathyspear (Post 1860576)
We lived in Calumet Grove for a year before moving to our current house. (Moved to be closer to my sister, not because of the trains.) I actually liked hearing the trains at night. (Never noticed them during the day.) I found it soothing. Different strokes ...

kathy

I'm with you all the way, I love the soothing sound late at night/early morning.

PennBF 11-16-2020 08:39 AM

Reminds Me
 
This reminds me of an experience we had when we lived in NY. Our home was very very high on a cliff and if you sat on the balcony you could only see the river but far below there was also a railroad track that ran along the river. One day I was on our balcony and heard a lot of noise down the cliff and got in the car and drove down to see what was going on. There was a very long freight train stopped and the engineer yelling at the person and the police just arriving. It seem the person owned a small dock on the river and was claiming that he owned the road to it which crossed the the train tracks, therefore he owned the track and wanted to be paid a fee to let the train to pass. In the meantime the engineer was yelling he had to be in Chicago at a certain time and this was making him miss his schedule. The cops finally took the dock owner away, probably to the funny farm and the train proceeded. Don't know how this correlates to the post other than we live in a crazy world.:MOJE_whot:

Lottoguy 11-16-2020 10:04 AM

Let's trade homes. I live nextdoor to a 24/7 muffler shop.

Garywt 11-16-2020 07:16 PM

We were so happy to find trains near us when we bought. Love having trains nearby.


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