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stevecmo 10-28-2021 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jsjackman (Post 2022442)
We highly recommend you sit down with PARADY Financial, across from Colony shopping center @ no cost or pressure to you! We feel this is 1 of another blessings in moving to The Villages! They offer classes & learning sessions to make sure you understand what you are doing & can make the right decisions before investing! Sometimes this takes weeks or months for some people to decide as you question what they offer is too good to be true! There are no fees ever & they immediately saved me $3000/yr as Edward Jones was charging me in fees, unknown to me as I didn’t see the hidden fees! Anyhow, they review what you have & want in your future, & to make it last till approximate death. Everyone is extremely helpful, friendly, and really get to know u personally……as Greg says we become family! They have their own tax services, accountants, Greg, as well as lawyers who can help & meet with you! PARADY was a big part of our social life as well……….till Covid hit! Dinners, entertainment, golf outings, & a short film presentation were offered twice a month for clients to bring friends to see if they might like to meet with their consultants for more info. PARADY supports so many local organizations like Veterans, Cancer, Alzheimer's, Food pantry, School supplies, Women shelters, After school programs, etc, by having functions for the clients where we can gather for fun, food, drinks, entertainment & make a donation to these organizations, which are tax write offs! You owe it to your future to make an appt as you have nothing to lose and should you join, you will have peace of mind knowing your money is safe and future secure! We even received a several thousand dollars bonus for signing up……they paid us! Tell them Jan and Suchy sent you! Can’t say enough about this business and how they have improved our lives!

Wow!

- All kinds of free dinners and
outings.
- Support lots of local
charities.
- "... they paid us!"

And "no fees ever".

SMH

dewilson58 10-28-2021 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by stevecmo (Post 2022500)
Wow!

- All kinds of free dinners and
outings.
- Support lots of local
charities.
- "... they paid us!"

And "no fees ever".

SMH

:bigbow:

valuemkt 10-28-2021 08:28 AM

Fiduciary: A Salesperson who Promises Not to Steal Your Moneyhh
 
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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2022402)
Whatever you do, make sure your advisor has a fiduciary role, which means they are responsible to you and not their company. You should Google this term to understand what it means better. There are three people to talk to a CPA, a tax lawyer, and of course an investment advisor that is related to a stock brokerage company and definitely not an insurance broker . Well many people say you can do it yourself, and of course you should educate yourself as best you can, there are many intricacies of tax laws to concern yourself with that you may not know or learn about in Reading.

Is everyone May understand your situation is totally different than anyone else's and only you can decide best for yourself. I will say that retirement is not as expensive as you are thinking especially if you're not one to take vacations and spend on new cars every year. You can certainly get by very reasonably even in The villages with the uprising housing costs. Good luck and enjoy your retirement

Everyone in the Financial Community these days is a fiduciary. It has become a meaningless term. Sure, it's necessary condition - but far from sufficient. CFPs are not far behind.

Joe C. 10-28-2021 09:39 AM

Good financial planning is spending your last dime with your last breath.

Boomer 10-28-2021 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by biscuitgirl (Post 2021764)
Hi all. My husband and I are recent arrivals in TV. We’re looking for a professional to advise on taking withdrawals from our savings to fund retirement. We’ve always made our own investment decisions and feel pretty comfortable with that. But we have a few big-ticket items coming up with the house, as well as day-to-day expenses, and I’m struggling to figure out when and from which accounts to take money to minimize tax impacts. There seem to be plenty of people around that will sell you an annuity or manage money for an ongoing fee, but surely there must be people that specifically advise on the withdrawal side of things. Can anyone recommend a good fee-based advisor who can help guide us through this, or even identify the type of professional I'm looking for to better target my google search? Thanks.


Because you have been handling your own investment decisions, it could be that it will not be easy for you to turn over those decisions to someone else. And it does not sound like you want to do that anyway. I understand. (I speak from experience.)

As I am sure you well know, the bull market has been running since 2009, with a short dip in 2020. Therefore, any advisor should be able to claim terrific returns over time. But if you have been in the market for decades — which you probably have — you know that no matter that the famous philosopher Mick Jagger says, “Time Is On My Side” — well, at this point in life -- it most certainly is not -- so if you have been trusting your own investment decisions for a long time, you might want to continue doing just that — with a backup plan, just in case.

BUT, for the advice you need on what to take, from where, and when to do it, I would suggest a good CPA, perhaps one who is also approaching retirement.

That is what we did. He advised spending taxable money first and letting tax-deferred accounts continue to grow. We also went ahead and took SS earlier rather than later — and that also protected the tax-deferred accounts. (*We have never regretted that decision but that does not mean others should do the same thing. The SS decision has to be completely individual.)

Eventually though, the time comes to pay the piper with the RMD. If the retirement accounts have grown enough to throw Medicare costs over the threshold into IRMAA, then you need to do more math to see what it’s worth to cross that threshold. It could be that it is worth it to understand what using a QCD for part of your RMD can do to keep your Medicare premium down.

IRMAA can sneak up on you. As I understand it (and I am not an accountant) a really aggravating thing about IRMAA is that if you cross that AGI threshold by even a few dollars, IRMAA shows up and takes a big gulp. It is not like tax brackets.

The IRMAA threshold is high and not a lot of retirees will be concerned about it, but with more than a decade’s growth of the market, people might find themselves sitting on a big RMD — year after year. For some, there might be no way around IRMAA, but I include it here because long-time, successful investors, in particular, need to be aware.

After retirement but before the RMD, we put our employee retirement accounts into IRAs. We also began doing conversions to Roth when the tax bracket made it sensible to work those in. There are times when it can make sense to go ahead and take a tax hit before you have to.

I had a wonderful accountant through those decision-making years, but he is no longer with us. I miss him. He used to talk about “trying to free your money from its prison” when we commiserated about the eventual tax hits on retirement accounts and how to best navigate those.

After all these paragraphs I just wrote — (sigh) — I should have just said sit down with a CPA who is about your age. (The reason I say the age thing is because our last two CPAs were in the same boat as us, but now a whippersnapper has taken over the business and I have had to teach him a couple of things — like how the methods of doing a QCD can vary depending on where the accounts are held.)

Boomer

jagdl 10-28-2021 03:35 PM

We were where you are
 
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Originally Posted by biscuitgirl (Post 2021764)
Hi all. My husband and I are recent arrivals in TV. We’re looking for a professional to advise on taking withdrawals from our savings to fund retirement. We’ve always made our own investment decisions and feel pretty comfortable with that. But we have a few big-ticket items coming up with the house, as well as day-to-day expenses, and I’m struggling to figure out when and from which accounts to take money to minimize tax impacts. There seem to be plenty of people around that will sell you an annuity or manage money for an ongoing fee, but surely there must be people that specifically advise on the withdrawal side of things. Can anyone recommend a good fee-based advisor who can help guide us through this, or even identify the type of professional I'm looking for to better target my google search? Thanks.

We were not sure we were making the best choices. We met Samantha at Fidelity and she walked us through every facet of the transition from working and saving to using and preserving those savings. We had talked to other advisors but they always charged for nothing or wanted to sell us something. Fidelity does not do that. The process should be something that you are comfortable with. Anyone who says "don't worry about it, we will handle everything" is the one to walk away from!!!

biscuitgirl 10-28-2021 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2022595)
After all these paragraphs I just wrote — (sigh) — I should have just said sit down with a CPA who is about your age. (The reason I say the age thing is because our last two CPAs were in the same boat as us, but now a whippersnapper has taken over the business and I have had to teach him a couple of things — like how the methods of doing a QCD can vary depending on where the accounts are held.)

Boomer

This is all great advice and I will look for a good CPA. I'm very grateful that you took the time to write the full post - I learned some new acronyms and I think the better educated I am the more productive a meeting with a professional will be. Thank you Boomer!

Boomer 10-30-2021 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2022457)
I'm working on spending my kids inheritance.


And don't forget: Fly first class -- or your kids will.


Seriously,
Boomer

manaboutown 10-30-2021 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2023362)
And don't forget: Fly first class -- or your kids will.


Seriously,
Boomer

And use up your frequent flier miles!

Bay Kid 10-31-2021 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2023362)
And don't forget: Fly first class -- or your kids will.


Seriously,
Boomer

1st class both ways and a private driver from the airport to my Village home!

manaboutown 11-05-2021 12:31 PM

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