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OrangeBlossomBaby 08-25-2019 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1676019)
I've thought about how to decrease trash volume. I'm at a loss. I have no idea what I could possibly eliminate from the trash we put out for collection.

There are places known as eco-villages that address this very thing. Their goal is zero waste. They don't achieve it, but they reach for it like no other community I know of. They have compost toilets and use the resulting compost for their produce gardens, and they are mostly self-sustaining. They have very little plastic, from any source at all, other than the piping for their running water. They have solar showers, solar heaters, and some use wind turbines. They're completely off-grid but fully powered.

It's amazing how much waste you discover you have, if you were shown an example of an entire community that reaches for zero waste.

Things you don't even think about - like laundry detergent containers. Dryer sheet boxes. Empty butter containers. Empty juice bottles, empty cans, empty dog food bags, paper tissues (as opposed to cloth hankies), empty plastic bags and used saran wrap, pizza boxes, take-out containers, used tin foil, the list goes on and on. And after all that, you BUY plastic bags, for the express purpose of filling them with trash and throwing them away. If that's not the very model of waste, I don't know what is.

I'm not saying that I don't waste. I absolutely do, and I own that. But ever since a friend of mine moved to an eco-village and showed me the website where I could actually read about the concept and see photos of the community and learn about the mechanics of the whole thing, I'm much more aware, and try to be a bit more responsible about the consumption.

Forgot to add a very significant type of waste that no one gives a second thought to in the Villages: the vegetable peels and discarded produce that you all stuff down the garbage disposal. No, it doesn't go into the trash. But that is organic material that could be turned into fertile, gorgeous, nourishing compost for flower gardens. Instead, you stuff it into your sewer system.

CFrance 08-26-2019 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1675871)
1. welcome to my world, with regards to posting on-topic opinions.

2. the glitch in your idea is that it costs the same amount of money for a truck to pick up 4 pounds of trash from your house as it does to pick up 1/4 pound of trash from your house. The cost to do business from the location where the truck started out, to the location where he empties his truck, is the same no matter what. So that means if people aren't paying anything because they're not home, everyone else has to absorb that cost.

The route doesn't change, and they still have to go slowly, using the same amount of gas, labor, man-hours, etc.

Think of it from the reverse perspective: making you pay a share, is incentive for you to not spend months away from the house. You're paying to be there!

But I'm not sure I agree with your #2. If a truck is picking up 1/4 lb of trash as opposed to 4 lbs of trash, it would be making fewer trips to the landfill. Thus savings in gas and time. This assumes the trucks now make more than one trip, though--a point of which I have no knowledge.


As for the public dumpsters, I agree with everyone else that they would be an eyesore, smelly, and rat-infested. The public dumpsters where we live in the summer are in two spots, both on the outskirts of town and hidden from view by tall live hedges.



I can't imagine every postal station in TV having dumpsters.

treehugger5 08-26-2019 03:19 AM

I would like to take this opportunity to ask people to NOT put their unwanted mail of any sort into the barrels at the PO station. Filling that barrel ADDS to everyone's trash costs by requiring that barrel to be emptied. You already pay for pickup at you home. Throw your trash away there, please. "Waste" paper should be put out with your recyclables. But even if you trash it, why are you adding to my amenity fee costs by dumping trash at the PO station. Is it too heavy to bring home? Reduce your junk mail by signing up with the Direct Marketing Association and by cancelling catalogs etc that you no longer wish to receive by contacting the company (yes, sometimes you have to call them twice). As to the dumpster idea, the various thoughts as to its impracticability mentioned above seem well reasoned.

Villagesgal 08-26-2019 04:25 AM

Terrible idea. First off there is the odor, especially in the summer, secondly it looks terrible, thirdly, pickup is done by large trucks which would block people from coming in to get their mail, fourthly pickup makes a lot of noise which isn't fair to the people who live by a postal station and most important, dumpsters attract rats and mice.

Chase219 08-26-2019 05:03 AM

Trash Pick Up
 
I personally do not want to bring my trash to a dumpster first of all it will be a mess with all these people here and especially at the postal station maybe you would not care but when you live across the street I don't think you would want it either.

Bad Idea if you live in the villages and are worried about cost maybe this is not the right place for those people.

Rwirish 08-26-2019 05:13 AM

I say we don’t need dumpsters at the postal stations.

fastboat 08-26-2019 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1675645)
For those that use computers and still receive paper statements from The District office that contain monthly water, sewer, trash and amenity bills, please consider signing up for E-Billing.

Village Community Development Districts

By doing so, all of the information pertaining to your monthly bill will be emailed to the email you provide. You always have access to these records by returning to the districtgov.org to see the details and a complete history of your bills.

Village Community Development Districts

I am told by district staff that only about 15% of Villagers use E-Billing and that it costs around $9,000 per month to send out paper statements. So, save paper and help your Village District government save money by signing up for E-Billing. It's so easy to do!

Q: Would they pass those savings on to the residents? A: No!

Sparky25 08-26-2019 06:17 AM

Terrible idea
 
Terrible idea! We had this for a few years in the small village we lived in on Long Island. It was a mess! And most people did not bring their recyclables down there Just inconvenience.
Our postal stations are also our swimming pools let’s keep it clean and beautiful

LarryQ 08-26-2019 06:19 AM

I like that idea. When leaving town for a few days I can dispose of my trash and hit the road.

Heather296 08-26-2019 06:21 AM

I think this is the worst idea ever, and I hope it was made in jest. Dumpsters at the mail stations? Even if emptied daily they would stink in the Florida heat and they would be major eye soars. Reduce trash pickup to one day a week if you want to reduce costs. I don't think many people really need two trash pick up days.

krtaylor52 08-26-2019 06:29 AM

I lived in an apartment complex that did that exact thing. Do you realize how many homes share some Postal stations? Those dumpsters would fill up very quickly and we could have trash overflowing and on the ground every day. I am for recycling more. Educating folks to do that would be easy. I hated dragging a sticky leaking bag to the dumpster as well.

deebrock 08-26-2019 06:38 AM

Plane and simple NO for sooo many reasons.

Lynnesail 08-26-2019 06:56 AM

Not attractive, and would attract unwanted animals.

richl 08-26-2019 07:08 AM

dumpsters at the postal stations
 
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Originally Posted by garyseitz (Post 1675594)
Most people get their mail everyday. Many by golf cart. Why not put dumpsters at the postal stations? Empty these dumpsters daily. This would reduce labor, fuel, and manpower.
I’m sure this would reduce our trash bill.
What say you?

Maybe I do not understand the suggestion but it seems like a transfer of free labor of the home owner to a paid employee which would increase cost. Who would empty the dumpsters? Also most mail stuff (e.g. ads) is recyclable, not trash.

JamesMisciagno 08-26-2019 07:20 AM

Trash opinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garyseitz (Post 1675594)
Most people get their mail everyday. Many by golf cart. Why not put dumpsters at the postal stations? Empty these dumpsters daily. This would reduce labor, fuel, and manpower.
I’m sure this would reduce our trash bill.
What say you?

Not a good idea. They are ugly, smelly, and would attract rodents.
I suggest one pick up a week instead of 2 to cut cost. Do we really need 2 pick ups a week.


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