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The original post always gets lost.

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I’m pretty sure the land the dumpster sits on is owned by either the the District which collects my amenity fee to run activities at the center or the District which collects my maintenance fee to take care of the facilities. Either way, my neighbors and I fund trash collection at those facilities.

As for what the INTENDED use of the postal station cans - there was a long thread on here a year or so ago about how they were NOT intended for junk mail.

Whatever their intention for the garbage cans, most people will not take junk mail with them. The alternative would be to leave them on the bench where the wind blows them around. Just because someone puts something into your letter box does not mean that you will do anything with it. Or even pick it up.

Here we go again, trash cans at postal station.

I save up the feces in my car for a few months and dump it in the postal station all the time. Not a problem.

Good grief this forum is full of wackos. How do do you get months of trash and feces out of a coffee cup? Really. The bins at the postal stations are for trash that you may have with you for any reason. A score card, junk mail, a coffee cup. And yes I put a small grocery store size bag in there if it’s not trash day when I travel. It’s all going to the same place and funded by the same people, us.

Your first paragraph may be true....so what’s your point?
By doing so...does that give you the right to throw household trash into those containers...as stated herein?

Your second sentence is true. The suggested receptacle for discarded mail is usually a blue secured recycling container found in most PO. But the regular ‘cans’ are meant for passive use trash like a coffee cup etc. Not someone’s solid kitchen waste bags

You are correct that your fees help to pay for the dumpster rental at the rec centers. But, for Villagers or others to use the dumpster, it is technically considered illegal dumping by Florida law. On the other hand, the rec centers do not seem to be inclined to enforce the law. If they wanted to do so, they could post a sign, use a camera to identify violators, and report them to the police.

You jumped in late on this one my friend
What you’re describing is passive use. Read all the threads, your neighbors think because they missed trash pickups on their street...and won’t ask a neighbor to piggy back on theirs, that it’s ok to dump said trash elsewhere in TV. Ask all the others on here that demand links and supporting documentation.....where is theirs to support their contention that rec centers are for that purpose?

What blue secured recycling container and what PO? This thread is about the Villages which have postal stations, no “inside” accessible by the public, and no recycling.

As for the first part, I was responding to an assertion made in a previous post. The assertion was wrong and therefore does not support the conclusions that followed.

Reports of both the rec center employees and community watch affirming that the dumpsters can be used for the purposes described in this thread are good enough for me.

Oh ok....so now you’re good with ‘reports’ of employees saying wtf...have at it. I remember when links to actual policies were your go to on here.

Find a link to a policy and I’ll be happy to read it. In most cases there are rules that say one CANNOT do something- I haven’t been able to find one of those either. Lacking either, the direction (or permission) of those in charge is good enough for me.

(and I always try to be careful not to ask a question I don’t really want the answer to)

Illegal dumping seems to be defined as dumping on private property without permission. There are probably definitions that include public property as well. In this case there was permission given so…

Wow, you’re reaching now. It’s all good, it’s posts like this that always come back to haunt one on other threads. ‘He/she said it was ok’ Duly noted

Isn't the rec center considered private property? And, at least some of the dumpsters are owned by Jacobs, which is a private company.

Also, I'll bet you a dollar that no Villages department will put it in writing that Villagers have permission to use rec center dumpsters. The rec centers even instruct event organizers that they are not allowed to use the dumpster.

Okay, I'll confess.......................I took the tag off of our mattress.


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Did you eat the mattress? If so, you are in the clear.

Is verbal confirmation acceptable? Or do you need a notarized letter, in triplicate, signed in blood?

I mean we're talking about a small bag of trash, collected the night after our regular pickup day.

I asked, I was told it was fine, and that's good enough for me...

You remember? Didn't you just move in?

And no "reports" of someone saying nor intimating "WTF", they were quite sure of their answers... TO ME, when I asked them that very question...

Its funny. And I know you read every post in a thread...so you know it started as 'small bags' and got reduced to 'mattress tags'. Earlier posts were about household trash... crap they missed during their curb p/u.....big difference. When you see them lock the dumpsters like they do in your mid Atlantic states and mine as well, you'll know it got abused. And it will. 'He/she said it was ok'....so sell out an employee instead when it doesn't work out. I think I remember using that narrative....in elementary school

Who would be the private entity that owns the rec centers? I believe they are owned either by VCCDD or the numbered CDD (and I'm a bit embarrassed I don't know which).

Second, when the rec centers want to shut down poker because of the gambling their justification is you can't gamble in Govt. owned buildings in Florida. This also indicates the rec centers are owned by a CDD.

There might be a "property of Jacobs" sign on the dumpster or there might be Jacobs advertising on the dumpster but the dumpster was provided for use by the rec center. Rec center rules would apply and ALL we have to go on so far are multiple reports that the rec center has said it is ok to use the dumpster for the small amount of trash described in this thread.

'He/she said it was ok' is fine but those words are trumped by signage or govt. statute.

Look at my signature block, do you think I have not already looked for something writing? If you have something, please post it.

That was my original point with you! YOU said there is no policy you can find to say you 'cannot' do it. I'm saying show me where it says you can...do it?! Thats what you always ask of others here.

You got some on another thread throwing gate attendants under the proverbial bus....and here you all are dry snitching on rec center employees trying to be nice and avoid drama. Great lessons learned here

Maybe my thinking is skewed, but the town squares are public property because they are open to the public. But, the rec centers are private property because you need a Villages ID card to enter them. I'll still bet you a dollar that no Villages department will state in writing that Villagers have permission to use the rec center dumpsters for household trash.

You’re probably right. At this point I’m going to take “yes” for an answer and not ask any questions I don’t want an answer to.

Good idea, you ask 5 people and you get 5 different answers/interpretations.

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Yes we are paying for rec center dumpster’s :throwtomatoes:

Who else can tell you it's okay if not the people working there?

And if you read the thread (like I do), you'd know we're talking about disposing on trash if you're leaving on a "non-trash day"... Not because they "missed their pickup"...

Not a massive amount of trash, typically a day or two, since trash is picked up twice a week...

But you're juvenile insult is noted...

What "signage or government statue" is in play here?

I saw no signs when I dropped of my small bag of trash...

"Dry snitching"?

Sure... I gave a name and description of the people, and ratted them out...

Oh, and I also named the rec center and the community watch person I spoke with...

Oh wait, no I didn't...

Exactly! No signs, no written guidelines, permission given (at least three separate times), no problem.

I dont know what municipality you live in in MD but "since trash is picked up twice a week' here...i maybe could understand your premise if it was picked up once a week. Again, ask a neighbor unless the entitlement itch really gets to you because 'you pay for the rec centers trash fees'!

btw, 'juvenile insult'....based on your activity on this forum, that comment is a badge of honor!

You didnt have to name names....its been documented for all to see that it was employee's of two different departments. Damage done
They take enough hits on this forums threads. Sometimes youre better off saying nothing in cases like this

btw...post #49 "reports rec centers and community watch"

From the guy who came in "guns a blazin'" from the day he joined, that's rich...

Have I ever asked to leave trash with a neighbor? Yes I have.

Our trash is picked upMonday and Thursday. We typically clean out the fridge Thursday morning of everything except what we'll need for Thursday night and Friday (we typically go out to dinner the night before we leave).

But when I'm leaving at the crack of dawn on a Saturday morning, I won't bother them with the few things we still need to throw out.

Maybe YOU feel entitled enough to do that, but personally, I'd rather not be a pest...

Now feel free to continue your little "p*ssing contest"...

What damage?

You actually think they're going to "interrogate" all of their employees, under bright lights, with threats of a beating with a rubber hose to find out who DARED to give me such damaging information?

Funny, I see no one giving "hits" to any employee on this (or any of the previous thread on this topic). Maybe that's just your overactive imagination?

Speaking of "saying nothing", it's sage advice... You might want to consider taking it...

And how many rec centers and community watch employees are there?

Did I mention which one I used? No I didn't (It's more than one, btw, depending on which direction I'm going when I leave...)

But sure, keep digging that hole... It's becoming comical...

Oh so there it is..."guns a blazin...from the day he joined". Whatd you watch Animal House last night. Is there an initiation or probationary period for someone other than your 'Sage' fraternity.....to post a differing view than your pearls of wisdom?!...Dean Martin! I'll stop here on this one because its interesting how the moderator singled me out on a similar thread...after going back/forth with you. ive been PM'd about your antics, i shouldve listened but wheres the fun in that!

Absolutely correct. I have been in this situation many times as I have spent the last year between here & there. I know when I am going to leave & get rid of everything I can. What remains on that final morning is a lot of 'not much'. Used coffee pods, paper towels, a couple of napkins, maybe some tissues, etc. & frequently on that final morning I leave long before my neighbors are awake.

Hit the nail on the head!