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Polar Bear 09-02-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 1677845)
Your opinion is noted, but unless you work, run, manage any of the areas closed, your opinion is only noted and useless. I work for, Manage, one of the closed areas. Our employees were grateful and relieved for the quick action. Work was one less thing to worry about. Some staff left the area, their choice, but it gave them the ability to leave in a timely fashion. You are correct that this is a slow moving storm, BUT what if it speeds up and turns west?

Again we can live without a few days of Rec Centers, golf pools etc. But I know my staff has the peace of mind that they have time to make their personal choices.

Ditto what Bogie Shooter said. :)

Marathon Man 09-02-2019 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1677838)
I was addressing the response that some people had saying that closing the amenities gave the employees time to get their homes prepared. This hurricane was predicted to impact our area on Monday or Tuesday. Now they're saying Wednesday. It has been one of the slowest moving storms in history to those predictions were pretty accurate.

I have friends who had all of their outside stuff pulled in last Thursday. That's pretty ridiculous IMHO. Again, how long does it take to prepare your house? If it takes days, you're not preparing properly to begin with.

Yes, closing up the rec centers and pools takes a bit longer but 4-5 days? I would think that if they kept them open until they had a better idea of what was going to happen, closing them down could be accomplished in a day. They might even ask employees who were off to come in and assist with the closing up operation since they are going to miss out on several days pay.

Enough already. Apparently, you should be in charge.

rrb48310 09-02-2019 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by geofitz13 (Post 1677443)
Nope. With all the uncertainty about the track of the storm, I feel that if they erred, it was on the side of caution. A few days without golf and rec centers may be an inconvenience, but not that big a deal. I'd rather be careful than sorry.

:agree: :BigApplause:

Pickbent 09-02-2019 10:51 AM

weather forecasts seem to change on a dime. better safe than sorry. taking precaution was wise and still holds until danger well past/

EdFNJ 09-02-2019 10:54 AM

WHEW! Now we can go back to posting about important stuff like golf carts going over 20mph, dogs pooping on lawns, where the next Costco will or won't be and mean people in supermarket parking lots. :D

Oh, and the damned love bugs are back for part deux 2019. Was hoping the storm might blow them out to sea.

Miss Daisy 09-02-2019 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kahuna32162 (Post 1677442)
Looks like Dorian is turning East and will only skim the Florida coast sometime Tuesday or Wednesday. With Rec centers, golf courses, pools and entertainment all cancelled, do you think TV pulled the trigger too soon?

Better to be cautious first than to regret.
Be prepared. If it doesn’t happen, Thank God.

Bobbusch 09-02-2019 11:02 AM

Hope for the best, plan for the worst. They made the right call given what we knew at that time.
I assume that staffing is the biggest challenge, and they needed to get ready for the storm, too.
Would have been nice if they kept some things open a little longer:)

Mommabear 09-02-2019 11:22 AM

Yes, the airports changed their closure times to later based on updated reports. Pools could have remained open the past 2 days. The chairs could have remained stacked and tied down. However, I do see the validity of others’ views!

ColdNoMore 09-02-2019 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1677859)
:boom::boom::boom:

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1677860)
Ditto what Bogie Shooter said. :)

I find myself, reluctantly and sheepishly, saying...DITTO, DITTO! :D


I also find that a number of posters, are simply reinforcing my belief that a lot of people live by the motto of..."I have the right not to be inconvenienced." :ohdear:

thelegges 09-02-2019 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Liz22 (Post 1677811)
Yes! They could have waited until later like other companies/stores have done, but then again they wouldn't have had a 5 day vacation. Now we know we are not having any issue and everything is closed.

Since this is a mandatory closure, the employees may have a 5 day weekend, but they will not get paid. As in any large facility hospital that is shut down, you get time off without pay. Many of these employees could use a full paycheck.
When TV is no longer in danger and the CAT 5 has moved on, I get to wonder if where our oldest is north of Wilmington on a barrier island, will be safe.

Polar Bear 09-02-2019 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1677861)
Enough already...

:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1677861)
...Apparently, you should be in charge.

WHAT!!??!! :eek:

graciegirl 09-02-2019 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1677884)
Since this is a mandatory closure, the employees may have a 5 day weekend, but they will not get paid. As in any large facility hospital that is shut down, you get time off without pay. Many of these employees could use a full paycheck.
When TV is no longer in danger and the CAT 5 has moved on, I get to wonder if where our oldest is north of Wilmington on a barrier island, will be safe.

This is where "SAVE YOUR money for a rainy day" becomes valuable information.

drcar 09-02-2019 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1677843)
Yup, and if I lived on an island out in the middle of the ocean or near the east coast of Florida, I'd be very concerned. In fact, I'd probably have evacuated to someplace inland like The Villages by now.

I'll ask again. When was the last time the area of The Villages had serious widespread damage from a hurricane? I haven't been able to find an answer.

I know tornadoes hit in 2007 but that's not a hurricane.

We had the eye of Irma go directly over us in 2017 and it was not a big deal. We lost power in my area for about three days, but had no damage to the house and never lost water. Several manufactured homes had some damage, but it was mostly to carports and lanais. We also had a few roads that were impassable for a few days, but again, nothing that impacted most of us all that much.

Irma was a CAT 5 and the largest storm ever to make landfall in Florida. As it progressed up the middle of the state however it weakened and was a CAT 3 (I think) when it got here.

Here is what happened in Florida a few days in advance of Irma.
"An estimated 6.5 million Floridians were ordered to evacuate, mostly those living on barrier islands or in coastal areas; in mobile or sub-standard homes; and in low-lying or flood prone areas."

Irma was a CAT 1 by the time it hit the Villages, and if I remember correctly you were most worried about the golf courses being closed to long.

HoosierPa 09-02-2019 11:57 AM

Management blew it

billethkid 09-02-2019 12:03 PM

The greater good and the big(ger) picture is a non existent consideration for some folks. Who have no knowledge what so ever what it takes to cancel and then restart.
It ain't a light switch folks!!!
Plus out predicting the experts of when it is safe to resume anything.

Those of us in the majority appreciate the call to action and decisions made.

You know the old saying you can't please everybody.....doing what is right and let the chips fall where they may is always a winner.

Dennys37Packard 09-02-2019 12:11 PM

Not in the least,

JoMar 09-02-2019 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierPa (Post 1677893)
Management blew it

Short sighted comment.

ColdNoMore 09-02-2019 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 1677888)
Irma was a CAT 1 by the time it hit the Villages, and if I remember correctly you were most worried about the golf courses being closed to long.

I believe...you are correct. :ho:

coffeebean 09-02-2019 12:32 PM

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skipbrown2002@yahoo.com 09-02-2019 12:44 PM

Closing the course and rec facilities
 
I feel that they did the right thing! There is a lot of prep work that needs to be done that most people don’t see. It is better to error ion the side of caution, rather than trying to get it done at the last minute. Ask, hurricanes can change direction at anytime! Relax and get your property hurricane ready!

justjim 09-02-2019 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1677886)
This is where "SAVE YOUR money for a rainy day" becomes valuable information.

I agree everybody should have a “rainy day fund”. However, I recently read that 40% of Americans cannot come up with $400 when a need occurs and they live from paycheck to paycheck. The 40% represents approximately 131,600,000 people.

ColdNoMore 09-02-2019 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1677924)
I agree everybody should have a “rainy day fund”. However, I recently read that 40% of Americans cannot come up with $400 when a need occurs and they live from paycheck to paycheck. The 40% represents approximately 131,600,000 people.

Yep.

Analogous to that, is the fact that just a little less than half (+-48%) of all Americans do not own any stocks whatsoever (individual stocks/in a pensions/tax-deferred/Etc.), so any movements of the stock markets...do not affect them in the least.

That sure leaves a lot of good, hard-working, fellow Americans...in a tough situation. :(

Red Rose 09-02-2019 02:19 PM

I'll tell you one thing, it's been pretty darn boring around here the last few days. Miss my activities. Especially the pool and Samba.

geofitz13 09-02-2019 03:27 PM

So, if I get this right, there are some folks who believe that nothing should be done until the last possible moment, just so they can continue to golf or use a pool? The first few forecasts called for the storm to be going up the Florida peninsula on Sunday or Monday. Forecasts change. Storms that are predicted to go one way, go another. (Andrew, for example). I miss playing golf, miss going to the pool ever day. I'm glad that management had the courage to be proactive about this.

Marathon Man 09-02-2019 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierPa (Post 1677893)
Management blew it

Another expert who should be in charge.

Yes, both of my 'in charge' comments were sarcasm. Please forgive.

Dilligas 09-02-2019 03:58 PM

Unfortunately, even with all the hype and TV closing early, we still have too many residents that do not respond. If we get the hurricane force winds, many of your neighbor's lanai and yard items will be blown away, hoping not as missiles into your lanai glass door.

Marathon Man 09-02-2019 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1677885)
:thumbup:


WHAT!!??!! :eek:

Sorry. I tend to get a little sarcastic when speaking logically to someone seems to fail.

Dilligas 09-02-2019 04:02 PM

We all forget, those who work in TV also need to prepare for the Cat 5 storm ..... some more than we do as they may live in trailers or manufactured homes, or worse yet, closer to the East coast of Florida.

Dilligas 09-02-2019 04:08 PM

What if the employees have to get lumber and board up their homes because they are too close to the East coast? What if the storm had sped up and bypassed the Bahamas and gotten here in 24 hours, and going that fast, not turned north? We could have had a Cat 5 hit landfall and endured a Cat 3 or Cat 4 here in TV. Don't every complain because someone was too cautious with a Cat 5. ps Only 4 Cat 5 hurricanes have made US landfall in history.

skip0358 09-02-2019 04:21 PM

Big deal they closed things down a little early because of what the forecast was predicting can’t swim,golf, use the rec centers, music was cancelled so what. Your still alive the storm has decreased we get to live another day. That’s all that matters. Had nothing been done and the stuff hit the fan the powers to be would be getting beat up for not reacting. Qqq

Dilligas 09-02-2019 04:25 PM

Glad you could prepare in one hour. Have you offered to help your neighbors who physically can't bring in the lanai furniture? Do you have snowbirds or vacationing neighbors who can prepare, so you can offer to help them. We do have all the above, and help all the above. It took 2 hours to clear snowbird neighbor lanai and pool area. That's what people in Florida do in preparation for major Hurricanes.....then get together with the neighborhood for a 'hurricane party' while the storm passes.

Topspinmo 09-02-2019 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by maybe (Post 1677590)
I am all for safety too, but I have seen no reason the p-ball courts, etc, could not be open today. The worst we could get today from Dorian would be less than what we could get nearly any summer day from thunderstorms. Good management would be adept at making quick changes. I am fine with them removing the water carts, folding sun screens, etc, but the courts could be as safely open today as any other summer day.

Same with asphalt tennis courts, no reason to lock them out. Nobody need to manage these courts. People bring there own balls and water. I play with two groups that don’t even use rec center Pickleballs. I imagine the locked them out for fear of law suits if someone got hurt and no one around. With all these sue happy lawyers and fake injuries I could see why they done it.

Topspinmo 09-02-2019 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dilligas (Post 1677987)
Glad you could prepare in one hour. Have you offered to help your neighbors who physically can't bring in the lanai furniture? Do you have snowbirds or vacationing neighbors who can prepare, so you can offer to help them. We do have all the above, and help all the above. It took 2 hours to clear snowbird neighbor lanai and pool area. That's what people in Florida do in preparation for major Hurricanes.....then get together with the neighborhood for a 'hurricane party' while the storm passes.

Nobody working 24 hours day.

Topspinmo 09-02-2019 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dilligas (Post 1677972)
We all forget, those who work in TV also need to prepare for the Cat 5 storm ..... some more than we do as they may live in trailers or manufactured homes, or worse yet, closer to the East coast of Florida.

Yep, I sure they drive from east coast for little above or minimum wage jobs.

Nucky 09-02-2019 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1677990)
Same with asphalt tennis courts, no reason to lock them out. Nobody need to manage these courts. People bring there own balls and water. I play with two groups that don’t even use rec center Pickleballs. I imagine the locked them out for fear of law suits if someone got hurt and no one around. With all these sue happy lawyers and fake injuries I could see why they done it.

Topspinmo, I really enjoy the things you post. I'm not kidding. The question is why can't people just go with the flow? Things am closed! Period! They, the big decision-makers made their decision. I'm glad they had their Own Balls! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: God willing it will be over in a couple of days. Peace Out!

coffeebean 09-02-2019 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dilligas (Post 1677987)
Glad you could prepare in one hour. Have you offered to help your neighbors who physically can't bring in the lanai furniture? Do you have snowbirds or vacationing neighbors who can prepare, so you can offer to help them. We do have all the above, and help all the above. It took 2 hours to clear snowbird neighbor lanai and pool area. That's what people in Florida do in preparation for major Hurricanes.....then get together with the neighborhood for a 'hurricane party' while the storm passes.

I have a feeling you directed your comment to me about helping neighbors to prepare for the storm. Yes, hubby and I have offered help to neighbors and also to friends who are snowbirds. I would imagine that is normal with folks here in The Villages.

drcar 09-02-2019 05:19 PM

:boom::boom::boom::boom::boom:
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Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 1677984)
Big deal they closed things down a little early because of what the forecast was predicting can’t swim,golf, use the rec centers, music was cancelled so what. Your still alive the storm has decreased we get to live another day. That’s all that matters. Had nothing been done and the stuff hit the fan the powers to be would be getting beat up for not reacting. Qqq


CWGUY 09-02-2019 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1677994)
Topspinmo, I really enjoy the things you post. I'm not kidding. The question is why can't people just go with the flow? Things am closed! Period! They, the big decision-makers made their decision. I'm glad they had their Own Balls! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: God willing it will be over in a couple of days. Peace Out!

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

rmd2 09-02-2019 07:28 PM

Yep, and now it is stalled over the Bahamas for about 3 days so what to they want to do now, keep everything closed for 4 or 5 more days?

CWGUY 09-02-2019 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Liz22 (Post 1678052)
Yep, and now it is stalled over the Bahamas for about 3 days so what to they want to do now, keep everything closed for 4 or 5 more days?

:faint: As long as necessary! What "they" feel is necessary..... not the other 125,000 opinions. :ho:


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