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CDC backs away from its COVID-19 ‘herd immunity’ goal - mlive.com
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"Vaccines have been quite effective at preventing cases of COVID-19 that lead to severe illness and death, but none has proved reliable at blocking transmission of the virus,..."
"The result is that even if vaccination were universal, the coronavirus would probably continue to spread."

So, what they are saying is that the ONLY thing that the current vaccinations do toward Covid is to minimize the effects when you become infected. Does not prevent passing it on and it does not prevent you from becoming infected.
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Nothing new, this has always been the case.
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Very disappointing news. Like the flu there will be annual boosters. We just got our booster.
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"Vaccines have been quite effective at preventing cases of COVID-19 that lead to severe illness and death, but none has proved reliable at blocking transmission of the virus,..."
"The result is that even if vaccination were universal, the coronavirus would probably continue to spread."

So, what they are saying is that the ONLY thing that the current vaccinations do toward Covid is to minimize the effects when you become infected. Does not prevent passing it on and it does not prevent you from becoming infected.
Not what they are saying. Big difference between "not reliable" and "not effective."

But even if the ONLY thing the vaccines did were prevent death, that still seems like a success to me.
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Very disappointing news. Like the flu there will be annual boosters. We just got our booster.
Agreed got our booster last month and looks like we will continue to get them.
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not what they are saying. Big difference between "not reliable" and "not effective."

but even if the only thing the vaccines did were prevent death, that still seems like a success to me.
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There is/will be a natural thinning of the non-vaccinated which will eventually lead to full herd immunity.
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There is/will be a natural thinning of the non-vaccinated which will eventually lead to full herd immunity.
Long term effects may eventually thin out the vaccinated from other diseases. Nobody knows, since the Vax was not tested on animals, and has been used on humans for less than a year.
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"Vaccines have been quite effective at preventing cases of COVID-19 that lead to severe illness and death, but none has proved reliable at blocking transmission of the virus,..."
"The result is that even if vaccination were universal, the coronavirus would probably continue to spread."

So, what they are saying is that the ONLY thing that the current vaccinations do toward Covid is to minimize the effects when you become infected. Does not prevent passing it on and it does not prevent you from becoming infected.
But if we all had it little to no hospitalization or death, but hey freedom.
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"Vaccines have been quite effective at preventing cases of COVID-19 that lead to severe illness and death, but none has proved reliable at blocking transmission of the virus,..."
"The result is that even if vaccination were universal, the coronavirus would probably continue to spread."

So, what they are saying is that the ONLY thing that the current vaccinations do toward Covid is to minimize the effects when you become infected. Does not prevent passing it on and it does not prevent you from becoming infected.
Vaccinations drastically cut down the chances of becoming infected, and if you do become infected, if cuts down on the severity of symptoms along with the likelihood of being hospitalized.
Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in US are now among unvaccinated | Fox News
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"Vaccines have been quite effective at preventing cases of COVID-19 that lead to severe illness and death, but none has proved reliable at blocking transmission of the virus,..."
"The result is that even if vaccination were universal, the coronavirus would probably continue to spread."

So, what they are saying is that the ONLY thing that the current vaccinations do toward Covid is to minimize the effects when you become infected. Does not prevent passing it on and it does not prevent you from becoming infected.
And so, does this not prove that those who refuse the vaccine are NOT part of the problem? It seems to me that all these months of folks wailing, complaining and pointing fingers at the unvaccinated have been unnecessary and unfounded.
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"Vaccines have been quite effective at preventing cases of COVID-19 that lead to severe illness and death, but none has proved reliable at blocking transmission of the virus,..."
"The result is that even if vaccination were universal, the coronavirus would probably continue to spread."

So, what they are saying is that the ONLY thing that the current vaccinations do toward Covid is to minimize the effects when you become infected. Does not prevent passing it on and it does not prevent you from becoming infected.
The vaccinated lower viral loads and are infectious for a shorter period of time so risk of infecting others is reduced.
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The cited source is not a pronouncement from the CDC. It is an LA Times news article quoting several "experts" as to their opinions. Read the article.
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