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Indydealmaker 10-18-2024 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDude (Post 2380118)
Today, I was turning left from 466A into the Publix/gas station entrance.

As I got the green light to turn, there was a car on the other side of the road turning right. I was aiming for the right lane so I could turn into the gas station, while he was turning right from the other side.

We didn’t come close to an accident, but we both ended up pulling into the gas station parking lot to talk about it.

What frustrates me is that people who move to Florida don’t seem to understand Florida’s driving laws.

He didn't believe me because a 'cop' friend told him he had right of way and I wasn't supposed to turn into right lane.

Chapter 316 of the Florid Statute is vague and doesn't answer:

1. The driver of a vehicle intending to turn left at an intersection onto a highway, public or private roadway, or driveway must approach the intersection in the extreme left-hand lane lawfully available to traffic moving in the direction of travel of such vehicle and must make the left turn so as to leave the intersection in a lane lawfully available to traffic moving in such direction upon the roadway being entered.

BUT:
Florida DMV handbook clarifies it.

A left turn may be completed into any lane lawfully available or safe for the desired direction of travel. Diagrams addressing the different turning situations are in the Florida drivers handbook.

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I will not get into 'feelings', it's the law. Also, the right always yields. So, if the law was different, the right still yields.

Wonder what others have thought on this topic. How many of you knew this?

You can be ticketed for making a turn into any lane different from the one from which your turn started. After you complete the turn, signal to change lanes. Common sense dictates this method reduces accidents.

Bill14564 10-18-2024 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Topgun 1776 (Post 2380264)
Incorrect. You get ONE lane to turn from and ONE lane to go into. If there are multiple lanes on the roadway being entered, if you are turning from the far most left lane, you must enter the far most left lane of the roadway you are entering. You don't get your choice of lanes to turn into. Period.

From post #38:

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2380255)
The above is incorrect according to FL Statute 316.151. Please post a citation that supports your claim that you must stay in the leftmost lane.

If you are turning left on a green arrow then the oncoming traffic has a red light and a right-turning vehicle must yield. If there is a collision then it is the right-turning vehicle that is at fault.

If you are turning left on a green light then the oncoming traffic also has a green light and the left-turning vehicle must yield. If there is a collision in this case then the left-turning vehicle would be at fault.

You seem pretty convinced that you are correct. Where in the Florida law does it say 316.151 does NOT apply?

kendi 10-18-2024 08:42 AM

You’re putting a lot of energy into this. Getting out and talking to the other driver, posting on social media. Not sure why this is worth ruining your whole day.

dlspiess 10-18-2024 08:43 AM

Unless the person is making a right turn on red. Then they must yield but if they have the green also then the left turn must yield. This is everywhere I believe

Topspinmo 10-18-2024 08:59 AM

Law says right turn on red after yielding. If vehicle coming at you can’t just blunder out into any intersection, you have to yield period. I seen right turners jump out when both lanes are in intersection turning trying to bet them, them they slow down after blocking traffic. Happened hundred time day with .00001% chance of getting ticketed.

Topspinmo 10-18-2024 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2380280)
You’re putting a lot of energy into this. Getting out and talking to the other driver, posting on social media. Not sure why this is worth ruining your whole day.

Now days it best not to confront people over Pettit crap IMO.

TheDude 10-18-2024 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 2380276)
You can be ticketed for making a turn into any lane different from the one from which your turn started. After you complete the turn, signal to change lanes. Common sense dictates this method reduces accidents.

If you could find the law that states what you believe, I would like to learn.

If I was a judge, what law would you present to me to prove you are right?

TheDude 10-18-2024 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2380286)
Now days it best not to confront people over Pettit crap IMO.


There was no road rage. Just a friendly disagreement.

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-18-2024 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassieb (Post 2380242)
You must remain in the lane you are turning from. From your explanation you nearly hit the other car by crossing lanes. It would have been your fault.

When you're taking a left, at a left-turn-arrow signal that is green, from a single lane, into a two-lane strip-mall driveway, AND the right lane of that 2-lane drive has another driveway immediately upon entering that gets you into the parking lot you need to be in...

then you have the absolute right to turn left from that single-lane left turn, to the right lane of the strip-mall driveway, so that you can get to that parking lot.

As long as YOU have the green light, you can do this.

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-18-2024 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Topgun 1776 (Post 2380250)
Nope...if you're turning from the far left lane, you must stay in that lane through your turn. You don't get your choice. If you hit me when I've turned right, you'll be found at fault for illegal lane change in an intersection.

If you turned right while you had a red light, and I had a green left-turn arrow, you're the one who would be found at fault for running a red light.

Deden 10-18-2024 09:30 AM

You are correct but, but up north when making a left turn with or without an arrow you turn into the left lane, you're in then you can proceed to change lanes when it is safe. The other driver is wrong. When you have a green arrow that means they have Red. and have to stop and yield when traffic is safe to go on red. I have a driver's license and then went through the 3-day motorcycle school. Where they showed videos of safe driving rules. And that is one of many safeties do's & don't s. Hope this helps and answers your questions. Stay safe out there.

pauld315 10-18-2024 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDude (Post 2380118)
Today, I was turning left from 466A into the Publix/gas station entrance.

As I got the green light to turn, there was a car on the other side of the road turning right. I was aiming for the right lane so I could turn into the gas station, while he was turning right from the other side.

We didn’t come close to an accident, but we both ended up pulling into the gas station parking lot to talk about it.

What frustrates me is that people who move to Florida don’t seem to understand Florida’s driving laws.

He didn't believe me because a 'cop' friend told him he had right of way and I wasn't supposed to turn into right lane.

Chapter 316 of the Florid Statute is vague and doesn't answer:

1. The driver of a vehicle intending to turn left at an intersection onto a highway, public or private roadway, or driveway must approach the intersection in the extreme left-hand lane lawfully available to traffic moving in the direction of travel of such vehicle and must make the left turn so as to leave the intersection in a lane lawfully available to traffic moving in such direction upon the roadway being entered.

BUT:
Florida DMV handbook clarifies it.

A left turn may be completed into any lane lawfully available or safe for the desired direction of travel. Diagrams addressing the different turning situations are in the Florida drivers handbook.

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I will not get into 'feelings', it's the law. Also, the right always yields. So, if the law was different, the right still yields.

Wonder what others have thought on this topic. How many of you knew this?

It sounds to me like the guy turning right had a red light while the person turning left had a green arrow. The guy turning right disobeyed the law since he didn't yield to the car that had the legal right to be turning.

jimhoward 10-18-2024 09:52 AM

It’s right on red after stop. If somebody is coming, no matter from what direction, you don’t go.

If the left turner hasn’t started their turn yet, and you are stopped ready to turn right, and the lane is open, then go but make it snappy. You’d be gone before they get there.

The problem here is that the right turner just assumed that the left turner , would go into the left lane so thought he could go. You can’t do that.

Topgun 1776 10-18-2024 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2380255)
The above is incorrect according to FL Statute 316.151. Please post a citation that supports your claim that you must stay in the leftmost lane.

If you are turning left on a green arrow then the oncoming traffic has a red light and a right-turning vehicle must yield. If there is a collision then it is the right-turning vehicle that is at fault.

If you are turning left on a green light then the oncoming traffic also has a green light and the left-turning vehicle must yield. If there is a collision in this case then the left-turning vehicle would be at fault.

You.didnt post a citation. You posted your interpretation. My point is ...again..if there is a SINGLE lane the left turning vehicle is going into, yes, he has the right of way. If there a multiple lanes, the driver turning left STAYS in the far most left lane throughout the turn. Once he's safely completed his turn, he may then safely change lanes. He does NOT legally get to swap lanes from the far left into any other available lane during the turn. That's called an improper lane change in any State. Simple stuff a lot of people ignore and develop bad habits because they're convenient

BumpaOompa 10-18-2024 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2380125)
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You must be trying to break a record on the most posts!


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