Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2380772)

The original post is flawed. It does not clarify if the OP had a green light or a green arrow. This fact makes all the difference in who had the right-of-way.

Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2380773)

The OP stated he had the green arrow a few posts down for the original.

Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2380200)

With a left turn signal, you had the right of way, but you were supposed to turn into the lane closest to you, not the outside lane.

The car turning right at a red light could legally turn, but only into the closest lane and only after yielding the right of way to oncoming traffic or people turning left with a turn signal.

Assuming you used your blinker to signal your lane shift to the right and your left turn, you had the rig(t of way.

The other driver was not using adequate caution to allow for such an event. Had there been an accident, though, a cop might have ticketed both of you. You were both careless. Second option might be ticketing the other driver.

It’s very common though illegal for someone turning left on a signal to turn into the outside land rather than the inside lane. It is also common for someone turning right at a light to do the same. I try to make sure I turn into the correct lane, but I also try to watch for someone turning right from the light, even though I have the right of way. Better to slow or yield than get into an accident.

Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2380687)

Whomever has the right of way does not mitigate the requirement to use judgement and care. Also, timing could affect the result. The car turning right does not have a view of the arrow for the car turning left. Mr. Right Turn, stops, sees no impediment, and executes his start of right turn. Mr. Left Turn's light changes and he starts his turn simultaneously. Mr Left Turn now has the best visibility and should yield to the car ahead.

Timing and speed affect the outcome. Fortunately, no harm was done. If an accident did occur, both parties would have their story, but I would think the judgement would more likely put the blame on the car that was behind or made a sudden change into the lane closest to the gas station entrance.
If I was Mr. Left Turn, in this situation, I would have chosen to avoid the quick double lane switch to get into the Gas station. Right or wrong is not worth the trouble to get it resolved and get the vehicle repaired. Remember the advice, Drive Defensively.

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2380772)

The original post is flawed. It does not clarify if the OP had a green light or a green arrow. This fact makes all the difference in who had the right-of-way.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2380775)

Yes, and the conversation changed at that point. As stated, the original post was flawed.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2380786)

Making up "what ifs" is pointless...

Reality is what matters. The left turn vehicle had a green arrow. The right turn vehicle had a red light. The fact that he /she could not see the left turn arrow is irrelevant. If that driver turns right and is involved in an accident, he/she is at fault. PERIOD. Case closed.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2380789)

Correct. Yet, there are STILL people trying to justify the person turning right on red....

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2380783)

If only single one lane turning left on green arrow they can go to any lane they want the right turner HAS to yield to traffic period. Now if there are two turning lanes then yes driver has to say in their lanes till safely to change lanes. Under NO circumstances can right turner on red blunder out into on coming traffic turning.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2380790)

??? You are now commenting on your own posts to agree with yourself?

(Would have been much more fun if you disagreed :laugh: )

Originally Posted by TheDude (Post 2380267)

Topgun, show the law starting your point of view, please. I'm learning and if you know something they please share.

I will post this again.

Chapter 316 of the Florid Statute is vague and doesn't answer:

1. The driver of a vehicle intending to turn left at an intersection onto a highway, public or private roadway, or driveway must approach the intersection in the extreme left-hand lane lawfully available to traffic moving in the direction of travel of such vehicle and must make the left turn so as to leave the intersection in a lane lawfully available to traffic moving in such direction upon the roadway being entered.

BUT:
Florida DMV handbook clarifies it.

A left turn may be completed into any lane lawfully available or safe for the desired direction of travel. Diagrams addressing the different turning situations are in the Florida drivers handbook.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2380787)

Post #10 clarified the confusion.

That is why it is important to read (at least some of) the thread BEFORE responding...

Originally Posted by djlnc (Post 2380876)

Out of 131 posts, yours gets my vote for the most confusing.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2380938)

I don’t understand what’s confusing about right turn on red, have to yield period.