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gomoho 03-05-2013 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 637118)
Charter Schools.Your taxpayer money at work.Worse thing to happen to education.The state pays the school,what $8000-$10000 per student. School like this are just out to make a buck. No sense of pride with schools like this.

Except this particular Charter School is tops in the state - probably offering one of the best educations in the state of Florida. Their numbers prove it - people aren't sacrificing to send their kids there because their getting a bad education.

Pibb26 03-05-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 637153)
Except this particular Charter School is tops in the state - probably offering one of the best educations in the state of Florida. Their numbers prove it - people aren't sacrificing to send their kids there because their getting a bad education.


It is one of the top schools in the state. One that still says the pledge every day and teaches citizenship. Yes...it is a charter that you have to qualify for, by being employed in one of the tiers. And they do let students finish out the year, depending on what time of year the qualifying parent no longer qualifies. They have steep expectations of the parents of the students as well in terms of involvement. They are not perfect, but it is an exceptional campus! And if I had kids of that age would have them there in a heartbeat!

bkcunningham1 03-05-2013 09:44 AM

My stepdaughter works for The Villages and our granddaughter goes to the Early Childhood Development Center. We, including my stepdaughter and her husband, are thrilled with her job and our granddaughter's school. My stepdaughter makes considerable less than she made in Baltimore, but it is all relative. Their rent is considerable less, the cost of our granddaughter's school is mush less than Baltimore daycares...it is all relative.

She knew about the wages when they decided to move. She also knew her daughter would get a better education here than inside the Baltimore City School District. It is safer, cleaner, warmer, friendlier and an all around better environment for all of them. My son-in-law is actually making more money than he has ever made in his life.

My stepdaughter has applied for other jobs within TV while employed at her current position. She is looking to improve herself financially and started wanting to climb the chain, so to speak. Her supervisor knows about it and has never said a negative word. She only gives her encouragement.

The last time she talked about a job opening and applying, her supervisor asked her to please stop looking for another job. She told her that she was putting it in the budget to send her to school so she can move up in her current department and make more money.

Pibb26 03-05-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 637191)
My stepdaughter works for The Villages and our granddaughter goes to the Early Childhood Development Center. We, including my stepdaughter and her husband, are thrilled with her job and our granddaughter's school. My stepdaughter makes considerable less than she made in Baltimore, but it is all relative. Their rent is considerable less, the cost of our granddaughter's school is mush less than Baltimore daycares...it is all relative.

She knew about the wages when they decided to move. She also knew her daughter would get a better education here than inside the Baltimore City School District. It is safer, cleaner, warmer, friendlier and an all around better environment for all of them. My son-in-law is actually making more money than he has ever made in his life.

My stepdaughter has applied for other jobs within TV while employed at her current position. She is looking to improve herself financially and started wanting to climb the chain, so to speak. Her supervisor knows about it and has never said a negative word. She only gives her encouragement.

The last time she talked about a job opening and applying, her supervisor asked her to please stop looking for another job. She told her that she was putting it in the budget to send her to school so she can move up in her current department and make more money.

BK...it is sad...the State of Florida is ranked 46th in teacher pay!

bkcunningham1 03-05-2013 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pibb26 (Post 637194)
BK...it is sad...the State of Florida is ranked 46th in teacher pay!

Just shows you that teacher pay doesn't have much to do with quality of education.

ijusluvit 03-05-2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 637196)
Just shows you that teacher pay doesn't have much to do with quality of education.

Quite the contrary.

Across the country, performance in public schools is directly related to teacher pay. So it is no accident that Florida, which ranks very low in teacher pay is also ranked very low in performance. If you use the Villages Charter Schools as an example, one of the reasons they do so well is because they recruit better teachers and pay them more than area public schools do. The state just recently rewarded the charter school's overall good performance with another grant, which will be used for one time bonuses to teachers. This is the tenth consecutive year the charter schools received that award.

paulandjean 03-05-2013 10:13 AM

So lets lay-off someone who has a job thru the villages. Now lets kick their kid out of the school also.So the child worries about their parent losing a job and now they have to pull up from their school also and start somewhere also. Boy these educaters there have your child first in their minds. they should be ashamed of themselves. Its all about the buck. Surprised the school is not named for the owners .

ilovetv 03-05-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 637196)
Just shows you that teacher pay doesn't have much to do with quality of education.

Amen!

And in the end, it's up to the parent who makes the effort and brings their child to school here.

Obviously they think the extra effort is worth it, to have their children go to a school that is safer with more dedicated faculty and parents, and curricular development like this:

The Villages Charter High School

If the parents did not see TV Charter Schools as significantly better than their home district's school, then they would do the easier thing which is to leave them at home when they come to work, and let the kids go to the public school there at home.

Bonny 03-05-2013 11:34 AM

Just remember, when the employees put their children in the Charter School, they know the rules. They also know with the current economy there is always a chance of losing your job. It's a chance they choose to take.

GaryW 03-05-2013 11:55 AM

Things that make you go Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???????

My kids are in the school, one since 1st grade, graduates this year. the other the whole time and is in 7th grade.
Would not let them go anywhere else... I have seen quite a few teachers come and go. Some for reasons that are unknown. Great School,, new and most everything top notch. But just like any other school, they have issues also.
But I have seen some things with parents and all that would drive you up the wall. Lets say it matters who you are..... Leave it at that..

Other than that,, best school around :shrug::shrug:

GaryW 03-05-2013 12:00 PM

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ilovetv 03-05-2013 12:23 PM

Financial Audit for 2012 of The Villages Charter Schools:

http://www.myflorida.com/audgen/page...r%20school.pdf

njbchbum 03-05-2013 12:40 PM

hmmmm...I wonder if a child would have to leave the school if their family no longer met the requirements for attendance AND the child was an outstanding academic and/or athlete who boosted the school stats?

jbdlfan 03-05-2013 02:27 PM

Couple of mis-statements:
TVCS teachers are not higher paid than district counterparts. They pay the prevailing wage. They tend to draw younger teachers at the lower end of the pay scale. They also don't offer state pension program, but do have a 401K.
Students can be removed from the school for a myriad of reasons, including parent employment. When they begin to get overcrowded, they will tighten the restrictions.
Not all employees choose to send their kids to TVCS. There are many students at surrounding schools. A major point for parents sending their kids to TVCS has a lot to do with its size compared to surrounding schools.
TVCS does not provide the resources for many challenged kids like ESE or 504 students, hence, improved test scores. Trust me, many schools play the manipulation game when it comes to state mandated tests.

jbdlfan 03-05-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 637153)
Except this particular Charter School is tops in the state - probably offering one of the best educations in the state of Florida. Their numbers prove it - people aren't sacrificing to send their kids there because their getting a bad education.

Where in the world did you get that they are tops in the state. The Ele., Middle, or HS aren't even tops in the county individually. They get the high ranking because they get ranked together. Adding a high school to the mix that can manage a high graduation rate will skew the rating.
Are they a good school? Absolutely, but not even close to tops in the state. Check out the state test scores at https://app2.fldoe.org/Ranking/Schools/.
Florida's top schools are tremendous and can compete with the best nationwide, but TVCS isn't there yet.


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