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Old 10-11-2017, 08:28 AM
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How can 200 agents all be painted with the same wide brush?

Yes. There will be those who push new, but think about it.......new has to be easier and faster. Find the lot. Get 'em set up to make their choices. Move on. Of course, there will be some TV agents who push new first.

But not all.......C'mon 200 agents cannot all be the same.

If you are planning to list your house, do a little homework first. Of course, you need to get your home ready to show at its best, but you also need to find the agent that is a match for you.

You might have recommendations from people you know, but if that does not work for you, do a little interviewing on your own. It is really easy to do that in TV.........

Go to Open Houses and talk with the agents. Find your match. If something clicks, set up an appointment -- or at least get the agent's card and maybe make notes. Don't just call up and take whoever the office sends.

I must shamelessly confess to eavesdropping in Open Houses. I have heard agents tell bald-faced lies and I have heard agents purposely omit or avoid pertinent information when responding to questions. I have heard condescension. I have heard that classic "create a sense of urgency" routine. But mostly I have heard professionals that do just fine. TV agents are not programmed like robots. Geez. Stop painting them with a wide brush -- good or bad.

Also, sellers need to pay attention to homes like theirs that are on the market. Be realistic. Get the comps. I think there are sellers who are so enamored of their personal decorating choices that they expect buyers to want to pay extra for their murals or whatever. When a seller lets ego cause them to dig in on a higher price than the comps dictate, said seller seriously narrows the market for the home.

TV agent or MLS? Find the INDIVIDUAL that is a match for you and view the process as if you are going into business together --because you are.
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Old 10-11-2017, 08:35 AM
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The "real" problem begins and ends with The Villages real estate company.
They refuse to cooperate with outside Realtors and that is why only Villages agents can sell new houses.
Consequently, all (outside) Realtors can only list and sell the resales of other outside (MLS) Realtors.
Also, please understand that all Villages agents are only agents and not Realtors.
They also will not take 90-day listings.

Now -- get this -- Villages agents can sell the resale listings of outside brokers, but they don't and won't!

So what does that tell you?
It should tell you that The Villages is doing a disservice to all residents who want to sell their property.
If the Villages doesn't list it, they won't show it or sell it.
That is, if an outside broker/Realtor lists it, they won't show it.

It's very sad and unethical that the Villages employs this practice. It's the homeowner who pays the price and suffers by not getting the full service they deserve through no fault of all the outside MLS brokers/Realtors.


Yes, I do feel that this is a very unethical practice of the developer.

It isn't unethical AT ALL.
The Villages inc. are builders and they can sell their own homes without sharing any of the profits with any outside real estate agencies and why wouldn't they? They are in business to make money. Who would just give away money? There is not a thing underhanded about it at all. Outside realtors just don't get to profit from the Morse family and they don't like it. I say that The Villages name itself has clout. This is the fastest growing community in the U.S. That says it all. This is a very desirable place to live and houses don't require much work to sell.

Boomer is right. Keep up on what your home is worth and what similar homes have sold for if you are thinking to sell your home. Don't be unrealistic.
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Old 10-11-2017, 08:45 AM
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The "real" problem begins and ends with The Villages real estate company.
They refuse to cooperate with outside Realtors and that is why only Villages agents can sell new houses.
Consequently, all (outside) Realtors can only list and sell the resales of other outside (MLS) Realtors.
Also, please understand that all Villages agents are only agents and not Realtors.
They also will not take 90-day listings.

Now -- get this -- Villages agents can sell the resale listings of outside brokers, but they don't and won't!

So what does that tell you?
It should tell you that The Villages is doing a disservice to all residents who want to sell their property.
If the Villages doesn't list it, they won't show it or sell it.
That is, if an outside broker/Realtor lists it, they won't show it.

It's very sad and unethical that the Villages employs this practice. It's the homeowner who pays the price and suffers by not getting the full service they deserve through no fault of all the outside MLS brokers/Realtors.


Yes, I do feel that this is a very unethical practice of the developer.
(In regards to your statement....... that VLS agents can but won't sell MLS homes)

I don't think that is totally correct. As a retired Broward MLS Realtor, I must call the MLS listing agent for showing instructions and lock box code for access to inside the home for sale.

As the Listing agent, I can't grant access to any agent who is not member of the governing board of Realtors... I think that would be illegal.

So for that reason...I think your statement might be incorrect.... VLS agents cannot sell MLS "Realtor" Listed homes, and visa versa....
Just saying...

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We sold our first home HERE without a realtor or agent and I refuse to capitalize realtor.
A realtor or Realtor is simply a licensed agent, salesperson or broker, who is a member of the National Association of Realtors, a trade organization. The NAR governs the Multiple Listing Service, fights to keep its "recommended" commission structure against antitrust claims and lobbies for the tax deductibility of mortgage interest and for or against other factors affecting the industry. National Association of Realtors - Wikipedia

They even have a SRES certification. (Seniors Real Estate Specialist) lol
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A realtor or Realtor is simply a licensed agent, salesperson or broker, who is a member of the National Association of Realtors, a trade organization. The NAR governs the Multiple Listing Service, fights to keep its "recommended" commission structure against antitrust claims and lobbies for the tax deductibility of mortgage interest and for or against other factors affecting the industry. National Association of Realtors - Wikipedia

They even have a SRES certification. (Seniors Real Estate Specialist) lol
I think you mentioned that you are a licensed real estate agent and developer, Manabout?
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:42 AM
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I think you mentioned that you are a licensed real estate agent and developer, Manabout?
Yep. I keep a RE broker's license and have done a bit of commercial - but not residential - development. I still manage some commercial RE in which I retain an interest.

BTW, I never felt the need to join NAR as I was never involved in residential sales. As I view the matter almost all residential agents join NAR through their local board in order to participate in the MLS. Otherwise they are on their own...
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(In regards to your statement....... that VLS agents can but won't sell MLS homes)

I don't think that is totally correct. As a retired Broward MLS Realtor, I must call the MLS listing agent for showing instructions and lock box code for access to inside the home for sale.

As the Listing agent, I can't grant access to any agent who is not member of the governing board of Realtors... I think that would be illegal.

So for that reason...I think your statement might be incorrect.... VLS agents cannot sell MLS "Realtor" Listed homes, and visa versa....
Just saying...
Your information is incorrect.
A Florida licensed real estate agent or broker can sell anything in the state of Florida.
They do not have to be a member of any board or association of Realtors.
The key word is that they are licensed.
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Old 10-11-2017, 08:55 PM
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A realtor or Realtor is simply a licensed agent, salesperson or broker, who is a member of the National Association of Realtors, a trade organization. The NAR governs the Multiple Listing Service, fights to keep its "recommended" commission structure against antitrust claims and lobbies for the tax deductibility of mortgage interest and for or against other factors affecting the industry. National Association of Realtors - Wikipedia

They even have a SRES certification. (Seniors Real Estate Specialist) lol
To belong to the NAR you must first be a member of a local board.
There is never a "recommended" commission because to do that is against the law.
The NAR lobbies for many things in favor of homeowners.
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Outside TV listings (not the TV broker) get more exposure and commission is probably more negotiable.
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:21 PM
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The "real" problem begins and ends with The Villages real estate company.
They refuse to cooperate with outside Realtors and that is why only Villages agents can sell new houses.
Consequently, all (outside) Realtors can only list and sell the resales of other outside (MLS) Realtors.
Also, please understand that all Villages agents are only agents and not Realtors.
They also will not take 90-day listings.

Now -- get this -- Villages agents can sell the resale listings of outside brokers, but they don't and won't!

So what does that tell you?
It should tell you that The Villages is doing a disservice to all residents who want to sell their property.
If the Villages doesn't list it, they won't show it or sell it.
That is, if an outside broker/Realtor lists it, they won't show it.

It's very sad and unethical that the Villages employs this practice. It's the homeowner who pays the price and suffers by not getting the full service they deserve through no fault of all the outside MLS brokers/Realtors.


Yes, I do feel that this is a very unethical practice of the developer.
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It isn't unethical AT ALL. The Villages inc. are builders and they can sell their own homes without sharing any of the profits with any outside real estate agencies and why wouldn't they? They are in business to make money. Who would just give away money? There is not a thing underhanded about it at all. Outside realtors just don't get to profit from the Morse family and they don't like it. I say that The Villages name itself has clout. This is the fastest growing community in the U.S. That says it all. This is a very desirable place to live and houses don't require much work to sell.
Yes, no matter how you cut it, it most certainly is unethical!

Unethical Defined: Not conforming to accepted standards of conduct; not conforming to a high moral standard.

When a homeowner lists their property with an agent, they deserve full service from their community of agents.
The Villages prevents this from happening because of their "rules."

So tell me . . . why don't they sell Realtors' listings; they legally can, you know, and they would still earn a commission.

It has nothing to do with clout, or being the fastest growing community anywhere.
The Villages doesn't cooperate with anyone because of greed. Yes -- you read it here: (greed = $$$) and I did not say "underhanded;" you did!

I am not unrealistic. My opinion that all agents should cooperate with one another is the way it should be.
This kind of cooperation is giving clients the service they deserve.
Not cooperating The Villages' way is not ethical and not fair in giving sellers everything they are paying for.
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