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NJRICHARD 07-24-2020 01:40 PM

We can all come up with the smart aleck phrases and comments. East to do. WHAT responsibility does The Village sales people have in telling the people the TRUTH! They KNEW about the noise when they built these homes so close to the Turnpike and went ahead because it was CHEAPER to jam in as many homes as possible. The reputation of The Villages as 'the friendliest place in America' was one of the reasons most of us bought here and I for one could NOT find one person that had anything to complain about when we bought our 6 year old place between Lake Sumter & Brownwood. Now we have people complaining. When the 20K+ homes eventually are sold, where do you think they will be playing golf? This is the big crack in the dike and if ALL those who took an agent's word for it backed by TV's reputation, now, start complaining, that is a disease spreads like wildfire.

JoMar 07-24-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NJRICHARD (Post 1808116)
We can all come up with the smart aleck phrases and comments. East to do. WHAT responsibility does The Village sales people have in telling the people the TRUTH! They KNEW about the noise when they built these homes so close to the Turnpike and went ahead because it was CHEAPER to jam in as many homes as possible. The reputation of The Villages as 'the friendliest place in America' was one of the reasons most of us bought here and I for one could NOT find one person that had anything to complain about when we bought our 6 year old place between Lake Sumter & Brownwood. Now we have people complaining. When the 20K+ homes eventually are sold, where do you think they will be playing golf? This is the big crack in the dike and if ALL those who took an agent's word for it backed by TV's reputation, now, start complaining, that is a disease spreads like wildfire.

I believe that most people do their due diligence before buying here. There are people that drink the Kool Aid, hear from the sale agent what they want to hear and don't get it in writing, neglect to read and understand the deed restrictions and think this site is the answer to all questions Villages. The majority of us know what we purchased. The complainers are in the minority and those that do their research will continue to buy with confidence.

kcrazorbackfan 07-24-2020 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1807576)
Ya have to do your homework....just maybe the wind was always blowing in the opposite direction whenever they looked at the house and never heard the noise from the Turnpike

while they're waiting to hear if a 'noise barrier' will be installed they can always enclose their lanai and invest in a whole house music system

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1807787)
Amazing how people do not think things thru with making a rather large investment.

I really wonder how these people have enough intelligence to even get out of bed in the morning.....

cmbrown915@gmail.com 07-24-2020 02:43 PM

Unbearable Noise
 
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Originally Posted by WhiteToast (Post 1807548)
I believe OP referred to news article on another site that reported a home owner in Monarch Grove is circulating a petition to neighbors asking TV to build a wall or do something to negate the noise of the Florida Turnpike and now he wants to create an issue because of his decision.

When we were looking for a house in Monarch Grove there was an amazing deal (thanks to the turnpike behind it!) on a house we LOVED. We passed and got another one without a deal and without the noise! We’re so happy where we are 😊!

Stu from NYC 07-24-2020 02:55 PM

We rented a house and spent a month here learning the area and talking to as many people as we could before deciding where we might want to live and where we would not.

Did not have the time to build so Fenney and the new areas were out very quickly and thought we would want to be reasonably close to the squares and shopping and restaurants on 27/441.

Wish my crystal ball would have told us about the virus but cannot have everything.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-24-2020 03:03 PM

I don't think it's reasonable to make demands for something like a sound barrier. However I do think it's a reasonable request. Or at the very least, that the ARC and whoever is responsible for the deed restrictions at those particular residents with yards that back to the highway, be granted exemptions to the "no fence" rule, as long as the fencing is a sound barrier, and is placed between the yard and the highway (and not a next door neighbor's yard).

In other words - allow the residents to pay for and have constructed their own sound barriers between themselves and the highway, if they so choose. The town zoning commission (or county or whoever runs stuff down there) should also exempt the height restriction, if there is one. Where I came from it as a 6-foot height in the back yards, and 4' in the front. If you're creating a sound barrier you might want to go up to 10 feet in the back. I think it's a reasonable request, but it should be at the homeowner's expense.

Marathon Man 07-24-2020 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NJRICHARD (Post 1808116)
We can all come up with the smart aleck phrases and comments. East to do. WHAT responsibility does The Village sales people have in telling the people the TRUTH! They KNEW about the noise when they built these homes so close to the Turnpike and went ahead because it was CHEAPER to jam in as many homes as possible. The reputation of The Villages as 'the friendliest place in America' was one of the reasons most of us bought here and I for one could NOT find one person that had anything to complain about when we bought our 6 year old place between Lake Sumter & Brownwood. Now we have people complaining. When the 20K+ homes eventually are sold, where do you think they will be playing golf? This is the big crack in the dike and if ALL those who took an agent's word for it backed by TV's reputation, now, start complaining, that is a disease spreads like wildfire.

This one actually made me laugh.

valuemkt 07-24-2020 03:55 PM

be careful what you wish for
 
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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1807646)
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Personally I understand their plight and issue - BUT they bought there, hopefully with the knowledge of exact location and environment. Another BUT - one would think that TV would have installed sound barrier walls as we see in many communities near highways etc, esp the Turnpike on the way to airport. One of those 'buyer beware' matters. As said before by others here, a #1 on list for us when we were considering TV lots was QUIET - no pickleball, main streets, back cart paths close to rear, etc etc.

to add some clarity - from the 'online news site'>

Villager launches petition drive over ‘unbearable’ noise from Florida Turnpike
July 22, 2020


Meta Minton
A Villager has launched a petition effort over noise from the Florida Turnpike.

Harold Meyer of the Village of Monarch Grove earlier this month took his complaint about noise from the Turnpike before the Project Wide Advisory Committee. He said the noise at his home at 5752 Hickey Way has become “unbearable.” Meyer suggested that more landscaping could be added, or perhaps even a wall. However, PWAC was not receptive to his plight.
Undeterred, Meyer has launched a petition effort in a quest to gain the support of his neighbors in the Village of Monarch Grove.

“I am spearheading a petition to ask the Developers of our community to deal with the road noise created by the Florida Turnpike,” Meyer said.

Thus far, he has collected 140 signatures.

“While the noise level is noticeable east of Corbin Trail, I have spoken to Zientara Loop residents west of Corbin Trail that also hear road noise. This issue impacts property values as well as the quality of life in and outside the home,” he said.

Meyer purchased his home in May 2019 for $231,500. At least a dozen homes remain unsold on Hickey Way.
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I live in Monarch Grove and would NOT sign a petition. Do some searches and you will find that noise barrier walls deflect noise down wind .. either impacting other people, or increasing any issues that exist for some owners.. The sometimes "white noise" from the Turnpike is acceptable.., certainly nothing compared to barking dogs in kissing lanai's .. Should you be successful in getting what you think may solve YOUR problem, you could easily become a victim of the Law of Unintended Consequences.

curtmcgee 07-24-2020 04:12 PM

Caveat Emptor is Latin for "No Turnpike"

rugbyjohn 07-24-2020 04:33 PM

Hmmm. Logic!

Ga.dawg 07-24-2020 05:55 PM

Bought in Marsh Bend , we here a little noise but not enough to worry with, sounds like this guy just needs to build something himself , solve his problem, not make one for someone else

Stu from NYC 07-24-2020 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ga.dawg (Post 1808215)
Bought in Marsh Bend , we here a little noise but not enough to worry with, sounds like this guy just needs to build something himself , solve his problem, not make one for someone else

Very true he did buy a house right by an interstate.

Timothyimitchell 07-25-2020 06:28 AM

The houses on the Turnpike are dramatically reduced. Some Up to 50K less than being in a quieter neighborhood. The buyers knew why they were reduced. Deal with it, and quit bi***ing!

Stu from NYC 07-25-2020 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Timothyimitchell (Post 1808328)
The houses on the Turnpike are dramatically reduced. Some Up to 50K less than being in a quieter neighborhood. The buyers knew why they were reduced. Deal with it, and quit bi***ing!

Price reduction probably due to value of land not worth as much as quieter more desirable areas. Buyer should have realized he was getting a bargain and why that was.

As a wise man once said "Aint no free lunch"

kpd3062 07-25-2020 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 1808111)
It's federal law if you add a lane to an existing highway, you must add sound mitigation if there are residences adjacent to the roadway.

I had read that there were plans to add a lane to the turnpike. Did the developer knowing this leave it out so the State D.O.T. Would pick up the bill? If so, smart move. If the developer had built it, wouldn’t the cost just be added to the bond in those areas? No real loss for the developer? Just a thought.

Chi-Town 07-25-2020 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kpd3062 (Post 1808377)
I had read that there were plans to add a lane to the turnpike. Did the developer knowing this leave it out so the State D.O.T. Would pick up the bill? If so, smart move. If the developer had built it, wouldn’t the cost just be added to the bond in those areas? No real loss for the developer? Just a thought.

If they decide to add a third lane it would be years before a sound barrier is built. And what about the bridges? OP is doomed for now.

Barborv 07-25-2020 03:23 PM

Another solution is glass in the lanai.

Topspinmo 07-25-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim 9922 (Post 1807507)
Not much different from buying a house near an airport, or near a firehouse, or near a factory, on a busy street, etc. The deal was too good to pass up, now change the world for me!! Maybe he bought it on the internet. At least with Amazon you can return it.

I use to go to gun range outside of town few miles by county lake. No house around. Then developers put in or houses couple miles down the road. Yep, you guessed it. Complaining about noise. Course the county carpetbaggers gave in ANd closed down the range. Same thing happened to drag strip I used go to.

Joe V. 07-25-2020 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1808656)
I use to go to gun range outside of town few miles by county lake. No house around. Then developers put in or houses couple miles down the road. Yep, you guessed it. Complaining about noise. Course the county carpetbaggers gave in ANd closed down the range. Same thing happened to drag strip I used go to.

Raceway Park?

queasy27 07-25-2020 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Timothyimitchell (Post 1808328)
The houses on the Turnpike are dramatically reduced. Some Up to 50K less than being in a quieter neighborhood.

I wanted to live in a specific historic neighborhood when I was in Denver and bought a cute semi-detached (duplex) on a busy street. Why? Because I couldn't afford a single family home on one of the interior streets!

Had new casement windows installed and made do.

EdFNJ 07-25-2020 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1807968)
Growing up in Brooklyn lived in a house about 5 miles from Kennedy Airport and if the winds were right about every 90 seconds a plane flew over making all conversation cease.

Did get used to it after awhile but made us very cognizant for the future.

We were in the departure path of Newark airport about 8 miles to the SW. I feel your pain. Cars all around were constantly covered with "stuff" from the planes engines. Even when they changed the flight paths it made hardly any difference. What a pleasure moving down here to "the sticks."

Dgizzi 07-25-2020 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaBoy451 (Post 1807522)
No surprise here. Goes along with people griping about the gates or the presence of golf carts after they move here.

WHAT? People complain bout golf carts! Unreal!

Dgizzi 07-25-2020 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1807730)
You didn't see homes near the turnpike or power lines a few years ago, it has only been the recent villages that are over there. It is very peaceful and quiet in Fenney.

What is the issue with power lines?

Dekogut60 07-26-2020 06:20 AM

We also bought a house in Monarch Grove and looked at houses on Hickey Way. One stop and a walk to the backyard and we knew that there was no way we would buy on that street. The price drew us there but the noise was not for us. We are a few blocks away and love it there. You need to do your homework before you buy.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-26-2020 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ga.dawg (Post 1808215)
Bought in Marsh Bend , we here a little noise but not enough to worry with, sounds like this guy just needs to build something himself , solve his problem, not make one for someone else

My thought was about the word "unbearable". It seems to me that some people ted to exaggerate some problems.

Stu from NYC 07-26-2020 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1808827)
My thought was about the word "unbearable". It seems to me that some people ted to exaggerate some problems.

Let me tell you about unbearable

My wife grew up in Coney Island Brooklyn at a junction of 4 subway lines. All night long you would hear screeching from subway cars every few minutes as they applied their brakes.

No A/C in the building so during the summer had to leave windows open.

Wife and her parents claimed they got used to it. Now that was unbearable to me.

Bilyclub 07-26-2020 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dgizzi (Post 1808753)
What is the issue with power lines?


Pros and Cons of Living near the Power Lines - My Pros and Cons

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-28-2020 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1808882)
Let me tell you about unbearable

My wife grew up in Coney Island Brooklyn at a junction of 4 subway lines. All night long you would hear screeching from subway cars every few minutes as they applied their brakes.

No A/C in the building so during the summer had to leave windows open.

Wife and her parents claimed they got used to it. Now that was unbearable to me.

Yet somehow they were able to bear it.

Stu from NYC 07-28-2020 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1809821)
Yet somehow they were able to bear it.

They did and lived there for over 25 years.

Velvet 07-28-2020 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 1808918)

Being near power lines: one can measure the EMF at all levels through out the property and outside with a meter from Amazon. Maybe worth it since unlike noise you can’t tell by just being there. Some people are susceptible to these waves and may develop cancer etc. with noise there is a decibel app for your phone you can use to measure the level.

WEHOWL 07-28-2020 06:10 PM

TV sales agents, nor any other decent agent, assumes items are negative to a buyer. They should ASSUME nothing. Agents aren't selfishly ONLY interested in commissions. Sadly, we are a species of generalities. Not everyone is the same in thought, word,or deed.

Stu from NYC 07-28-2020 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WEHOWL (Post 1810052)
TV sales agents, nor any other decent agent, assumes items are negative to a buyer. They should ASSUME nothing. Agents aren't selfishly ONLY interested in commissions. Sadly, we are a species of generalities. Not everyone is the same in thought, word,or deed.

If not only interested in commissions, how about mostly?


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