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Mleeja 08-12-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1816372)
Sadly, it appears from the other news source that it was threatened by the developers. I’ve noticed that news source has been pretty careful to not libel themselves but that’s only my opinion. This is not the community people bought into but such is life. Peace out.

I attended the meeting. I could not see who was doing the talking because I was in the back of the room, but they could have been a bit more diplomatic. They made it sound like it was “my way or the highway”. People in attendance started yelling blackmail. I think this is where the other news source got their “threatened by the developers”.

New Englander 08-12-2020 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1816395)
Naa!
Just showing who's the boss in this town.
My ball. my game, my rules!

Allow me to add.
My Ballpark, My Concession Stand, My County Commissioner Umpires.

Aces4 08-12-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1816402)
I attended the meeting. I could not see who was doing the talking because I was in the back of the room, but they could have been a bit more diplomatic. They made it sound like it was “my way or the highway”. People in attendance started yelling blackmail. I think this is where the other news source got their “threatened by the developers”.

Yeah, I guess a threat is a threat too. Some people will be fine with sharing limited amenities and pay the freight. Others will be upset, we all have varying opinions but in the end no control over what happens. Life is short now, people should choose what makes them happy and enjoy their remaining days.

Jayhawk 08-12-2020 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1816395)
Naa!
Just showing who's the boss in this town.
My ball. my game, my rules!

The Villages is not a town. It is a business development that sits inside several towns and counties. The developer is the only one who made a business investment in this entity. I'd even bet a majority of the people bitching about it never ONCE went to the old dump they just leveled. For too many, it's just something else to kill time complaining about.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-12-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1816425)
The Villages is not a town. It is a business development that sits inside several towns and counties. The developer is the only one who made a business investment in this entity. I'd even bet a majority of the people bitching about it never ONCE went to the old dump they just leveled. For too many, it's just something else to kill time complaining about.

I didn't have the opportunity. The restaurant had already closed down by the time we moved in.

Jayhawk 08-12-2020 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1816429)
I didn't have the opportunity. The restaurant had already closed down by the time we moved in.

So you're not missing it, then.

Marathon Man 08-12-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1816425)
The Villages is not a town. It is a business development that sits inside several towns and counties. The developer is the only one who made a business investment in this entity. I'd even bet a majority of the people bitching about it never ONCE went to the old dump they just leveled. For too many, it's just something else to kill time complaining about.

Well said.

No one is kept here against their will. Change is a constant in life. You can only control your own actions, never those of others. Empty land will one day be filled. -- Just some of the life lessons that some folks seem to have forgotten.

Two Bills 08-12-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1816425)
The Villages is not a town. It is a business development that sits inside several towns and counties. The developer is the only one who made a business investment in this entity. I'd even bet a majority of the people bitching about it never ONCE went to the old dump they just leveled. For too many, it's just something else to kill time complaining about.

I think many went to 'the old dump,' unfortunately, most of the people I saw there, sat all night with a lemon and water.
Maybe if they had charged for such a drink, 'the old dump' would still be open.
Maybe you were one of the regular patrons?
And you are correct in saying TV is not a town, it's nearly approaching City status!:icon_wink:

tophcfa 08-12-2020 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1816398)
The AAC DIDNOT vote for apartments. They voted on an amenity fee sharing plan. The decision to build apartments was the developer’s and developer’s only.

We can debate if the amenity fee sharing was a good idea or deal, but at least debate the facts.

The AAC by default voted on building the apartments, because without amenity privileges it would be very difficult to rent out the apartments so they would most likely not have been built. That is why the developer threatened (or should I say bullied) the AAC members into approving the apartments, or they would build something even less desirable.

Jayhawk 08-12-2020 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1816435)
I think many went to 'the old dump,' unfortunately, most of the people I saw there, sat all night with a lemon and water.
Maybe if they had charged for such a drink, 'the old dump' would still be open.
Maybe you were one of the regular patrons?
And you are correct in saying TV is not a town, it's nearly approaching City status!:icon_wink:

Never went there, never wanted to.

If they "charged for such a drink" the freeloaders wouldn't go.

And no, it is NOT almost a city.

Back to regular programming.

tophcfa 08-12-2020 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1816419)
Yeah, I guess a threat is a threat too. Some people will be fine with sharing limited amenities and pay the freight. Others will be upset, we all have varying opinions but in the end no control over what happens. Life is short now, people should choose what makes them happy and enjoy their remaining days.

Enjoying amenities that are not overcrowded is one of the things that makes (or should I say made) me happy.

billethkid 08-12-2020 03:58 PM

Under utilized amenities could result in higher fees.

GoodLife 08-12-2020 04:25 PM

From the article

The Developer had previously offered the Hacienda Hills site to the AAC for purchase at full market value. The AAC, under pressure from residents to pass on the offer, failed to make a deal with the Developer and the offer was taken off the table.

Looks like a put up or shut up deal to me. If you want to control what happens with a property you need to own it.

I think that 7 acre property is not currently zoned for multifamily units so that may be a battle, but I am pretty sure developer will get what they want.

Topspinmo 08-12-2020 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1816371)
So your saying the Developer owns the members of the AAC?

Yes

tophcfa 08-12-2020 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1816467)
From the article

The Developer had previously offered the Hacienda Hills site to the AAC for purchase at full market value. The AAC, under pressure from residents to pass on the offer, failed to make a deal with the Developer and the offer was taken off the table.

Looks like a put up or shut up deal to me. If you want to control what happens with a property you need to own it.

I think that 7 acre property is not currently zoned for multifamily units so that may be a battle, but I am pretty sure developer will get what they want.

Of course they will get what they want. They control local government. So much for a system of checks and balances.


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