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Buffalo Jim 07-30-2015 09:22 AM

Long practiced " cranks " love it here because they are now retired and can pursue their favorite hobby of eternal " Unhappiness " and " Victim-hood " 24/7 .
And as an added benefit they have a very large community of generally very happy people they can constantly " rain their diatribes on " 7 days a week .
There is a unique life-style opportunity for every passion in the Villages !

Bonny 07-30-2015 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim (Post 1093236)
Long practiced " cranks " love it here because they are now retired and can pursue their favorite hobby of eternal " Unhappiness " and " Victim-hood " 24/7 .
And as an added benefit they have a very large community of generally very happy people they can constantly " rain their diatribes on " 7 days a week .
There is a unique life-style opportunity for every passion in the Villages !

:a20:

MikeyBoo54 07-30-2015 09:59 AM

We've only been here 7 months and it seems to me like Jim's not wrong. I just don't equate being easily satisfied with not complaining. There is a middle ground.

rubicon 07-30-2015 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim (Post 1093236)
Long practiced " cranks " love it here because they are now retired and can pursue their favorite hobby of eternal " Unhappiness " and " Victim-hood " 24/7 .
And as an added benefit they have a very large community of generally very happy people they can constantly " rain their diatribes on " 7 days a week .
There is a unique life-style opportunity for every passion in the Villages !

That's not a fair and balanced assessment but it does underscore why a resident should be reluctant to tell the truth because for sure someone is going to label them as this individual did above. So to all truth tellers be aware that some residents just can't handle the truth because you just might rain on their disneyworld parade .

rubicon 07-30-2015 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 1093168)
Why would anyone ever complain about TV on this forum? All of you would jump down his throat just like you did the OP.

I can think of lots of things I do not like about the Villages but I am not going to share them with anyone here.

These problems will never go away but they are not going to change my happiness with living here.

Z

Agree , people are not looking for honesty there looking for mutual adoration society for the villages lifestyle.

mickey100 07-30-2015 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1093167)
Dear Posters:

I do read every post on every thread if I intend to comment. My first observation is that many posters paint with a broad brush. What i mean by this is some conclude because a resident complains about something that s/he is unhappy and would be unhappy anywhere. But the other side of that coin is the complaint may be justified., is a temporary distraction and certainly isn't an indicator that this person is unhappy at least to the extent indicated by some posters

My second observation has to do with the Thoreau. I do understand the meaning of his statement but paradise (heavenly place) is a subjective concept and to me it means eternal life, no disease, no pain, no discomfort........................Such a place cannot be found on earth and hence you can't fault fault finders for finding fault that;s the human reality.

In my view some posters are judging people and not what people are complaining about. Some folks do crowds well my wife is one of them. I don't because I promised myself that once I left the military no more lines:D

This same topic comes up time after time on this forum. Some view TV as paradise, some do not. Some of us are social and view TV from that perspective, some of us our more political and focus on government (Districts).....But i believe it is unfair to dismiss out of hand or define someone who complains as doing so just because they will never be satisfied because that is too broad a brush and at the time it is happening to you its personal ( that guy just pulled out in front of me).( that green is so tore up we might default to the automatic two putt rule and move on). Consider too, the other side of this issue perhaps those painting with this broad brush are too easily satisfied that's not always good thing either.

I am just trying to find balance here

I agree with you and zcaveman. To imply that because someone dares to voice complaints with the Villages, and therefore they are unhappy people that would never be satisfied with anything, is a big stretch, and IMHO, not too logical. Of course there are things that people legitimately complain about. And of course there are people who truly are unhappy, but I believe to base our judgements about the part of a person we see on this forum, is short sighted. I have spoken with people who post on this forum who say they are afraid to express their real views about some issues, because of the attacks they will endure.

Arctic Fox 07-30-2015 01:50 PM

Never let it be said that I am an apologist for The Villages, but I do think that this thread is one of the few that has remained fairly balanced. People have their opinions, but both sides have been recorded here in reasonable numbers, without recourse to too much in the way of name-calling.

And it has yet to be Shanghaid by those wishing to express their opinions on dog poop, roundabouts and cyclists on Buena Vista...

Polar Bear 07-30-2015 02:31 PM

Unhappy Villagers
 
How about...TV is a wonderful-but-not-perfect place to retire, good for many but not for everyone. :)

manaboutown 07-30-2015 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1093309)
Agree , people are not looking for honesty there looking for mutual adoration society for the villages lifestyle.

Most seniors, after they have made a decision to relocate to a retirement community, want to remain happy and content and be supported by affirmations as to the wisdom of their choice. They want to obtain and retain a positive outlook on life and enjoy it as best they can. They really do not want to hear the downside(s) or dwell on criticisms (valid or not) but delight in receiving comments on the merits of their selection and bask in the rewards during their golden years most have worked hard for a lifetime to achieve.

The success of The Villages speaks for itself with now over 100,000 residents, most of whom appear to be quite happy. Obviously there are those who are most happy when they are grumbling, griping and fault finding but thankfully they are few in number.

Shimpy 07-30-2015 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1092858)
I do wonder what it would be like to have a metal shop too.


I'd be the first member if they had a machine shop.

HimandMe 07-30-2015 02:52 PM

We love living here and all the wonderful neighbors that have become friends. No TV is not perfect but better than most.
As far as being honest on TOTV, I can see why some do not post their truths because they are intimidated by a few ready to leap in at every opportunity rather than just let the opinion sit. On the other hand so many other forums are just a place to gripe and complain instead of sharing useful information. The Internet is full of them and most of us just do not bother with them anymore. TOTV is more upbeat by far, it's a relief.

Barefoot 07-30-2015 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1093305)
That's not a fair and balanced assessment but it does underscore why a resident should be reluctant to tell the truth because for sure someone is going to label them as this individual did above. So to all truth tellers be aware that some residents just can't handle the truth because you just might rain on their disneyworld parade .

We've lived in The Villages for eight years now (for six months during the winter).
While we love TV and think it's a wonderful place to winter, I don't think it's the only great place to live.
We've had a few good friends who happily lived in TV for a few years, and then sold their houses and moved on.
It doesn't mean that they are unhappy or misguided or negative or lacking in some way.
It just means that they want to live closer to the ocean or move closer to their kids or experience Arizona or try out RV living or have other new experiences. IMHO, nothing wrong with that.

mickey100 07-30-2015 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1093410)
We've lived in The Villages for eight years now (for six months during the winter).
While we love TV and think it's a wonderful place to winter, I don't think it's the only great place to live.
We've had a few good friends who happily lived in TV for a few years, and then sold their houses and moved on.
It doesn't mean that they are unhappy or misguided or negative or lacking in some way.
It just means that they want to live closer to the ocean or move closer to their kids or experience Arizona or try out RV living or have other new experiences. IMHO, nothing wrong with that.

:coolsmiley:

2BNTV 07-30-2015 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1093374)
How about...TV is a wonderful-but-not-perfect place to retire, good for many, but not for everyone. :)

:agree:

Just because someone disagree with another point of view doesn't marginalize another's point of view. We all, are entitled, to our points of view.

That does not include attacking another person's point of view. Has some people been harsh, with other people. The answer is YES!!!! Does that make one person more right than another, NO!!!

We can all agree to disagree, respectfully!! Sometimes, that doesn't happen on TOTV! IMHO

Then, the admin steps in..........

quidam65 07-30-2015 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1092817)
It's the squeaky wheel that gets greased. In the villages the other wheels don't hear very well.

That is so funny! We need a like function on these posts.

It is true, though. Most people who are happy with a good or service simply go about their lives (though some, if exceptionally pleased, will go to sites like this to make recommendations).

Unhappy customers, though, are far more vocal. They don't want others to have the same poor experiences they had, so they let everyone know how and why they are displeased. That's why you see and hear more complaints than compliments.


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