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Stu from NYC 10-22-2022 10:02 AM

Reminds me of the movie Hang them High

ML Smith 10-22-2022 10:32 AM

Another vote for

WOW, just WOW

tvbound 10-22-2022 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Deden (Post 2149733)
AUFN How many points do u get for this post. 11??

"AUFN How many points do u get for this post. 11??"

That made me literally laugh out loud - so thanks. LOL

Cmacnair@hotmail.com 10-22-2022 11:35 AM

Yes
 
I like the idea because I am a law abiding Citizen, however it would never work. Society does not enforce the laws we have on the books now what makes you think they would then. People let emotions rule themselves instead of common sense.

Geodyssey 10-22-2022 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2149466)
Jaywalking is .25 so after jaywalking 40 times, you are going to execute someone? I would think that everyone on this board has jaywalked 40 times before high school.

But they wouldn't have if the penalty was death.

Today there is approx. zero penalty for many crimes. So those crimes proliferate.

That's the point of the post.

jimjamuser 10-22-2022 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2149452)
After a thorough following of the latest thread (13 pages at last check) on Homelessness in The Village, I was reminded of my friend's theory. Tell me what you think.

I mention his name for four reasons: 1, AFAIK, he is the creator of this theory; 2, He lives thousands of miles from here so the chances anyone knows him are slim; 3, His name is part of the theory; and 4. I want to give credit for creation where credit is due.

My friend, his surname is Stroup, told me his theory about Utopia, or "Stroup-topia" if you will. It is very simple. Is it ideal? I wonder.

His theory was this: Get the country's absolute brightest minds from a wide variety of fields (commerce, government, arts, etc.) and put them in a room to fulfill one single task. That task is to assign a point value, 0-10, for every crime, transgression, rule violation, etc.

Something like a murder would be a 10, a rape maybe a 9. A burglary might be worth 4 points. Jaywalking might be 1/4 point.

The theory is this: Once a person has reached 10 points in their lifetime, they are taken out and immediately, unceremoniously, yet humanely, terminated.

From one murder, or a decade of jaywalking, or more than a couple burglaries committed in their misspent youth, once a person has reached 10 points, they have proven themselves to be an unredeemable burden to society in general and the population as a whole.

Could work, maybe?

It sounds simplistic to me and is no improvement over our current system. The Japanese system should be studied. It is harsh, but has less recidivism.

rpalumberi 10-22-2022 02:47 PM

alternate approach
 
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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2149464)
Not me. I would not be terminating a lot of people. I’m not advocating mass termination at all. It’s a theory, not a proposal. I’m putting forth a theory I heard of a society with consequences, not of imposing that immediately upon our society. It’s an illustration, an idea, a discussion point, not an actual proposition.

Perhaps a society where everyone knows from a very young age that their actions have eventual consequences might produce a better society for the law abiding and self-accountable folks while protecting them from those who are neither.

Might be best if there were a grace-period, like the points do not start to accumulate until the age of 12 or something. Except for the highest point items of course, you don’t get off scot-free of murder just because you did it five days before you turned 12 or whatever age the appointed geniuses chose.

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I think this is crazy. I've got a simple solution - elect representatives at all levels who follow the law, once they violate that principle, immediately terminate them (not kill), removed them from their workplaces and cancel any benefits they would otherwise receive. Same applies if they say that don't agree with any law that is in place - simple.

If they want to change the law, there is a process but they must follow existing law until it is changed. Also, they must be held responsible for the consequences of not following the law, whether they do so knowingly or not. They must find out first before they act - that is their responsibility or don't take the job.

Nucky 10-22-2022 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmacnair@hotmail.com (Post 2149804)
I like the idea because I am a law abiding Citizen, however it would never work. Society does not enforce the laws we have on the books now what makes you think they would then. People let emotions rule themselves instead of common sense.

Check out the movie, Law Abiding Citizens just as a point of interest and let me know what you think!

WingedFoot78 10-22-2022 05:59 PM

There might not be any politicians left.

Worldseries27 10-22-2022 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2149840)
it sounds simplistic to me and is no improvement over our current system. The japanese system should be studied. It is harsh, but has less recidivism.

easier to achieve goals in a nation with basically one culture and norms.
I'm for stripping of usa citizenship, declaration of persona non grata, deportation to a country willing to accept them, and mandatory life sentence if they return.

rockyhyder 10-23-2022 08:43 AM

Most of us grew up in a society with consequences for bad behavior. My Mom and Dad made it very clear what was expected and provided the deterrent when necessary although removal was never on the table. I believe society functions much better when there are consequences for detrimental behavior. The problem is today the line between right and wrong is so blurred it’s almost indistinguishable. So how would one reverse the current course toward a more Stroup-topian approach?

Worldseries27 10-23-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rockyhyder (Post 2150003)
most of us grew up in a society with consequences for bad behavior. My mom and dad made it very clear what was expected and provided the deterrent when necessary although removal was never on the table. I believe society functions much better when there are consequences for detrimental behavior. The problem is today the line between right and wrong is so blurred it’s almost indistinguishable. So how would one reverse the current course toward a more stroup-topian approach?

in a democracy the only viable, legal option is, " elections have consequences"


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