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graciegirl 12-19-2020 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott O (Post 1875357)
Well I’m very proud of our President for all of his achievements in getting the Vaccine ready by the end of year as he promised! But have at it, I’m not a vaccination fan...No flu shots for me either...one less person in line..

You are arrogantly ignorant about your own health and mine and those of your small grandchildren if you have them. I too am very glad that Operation Warp Speed allowed enormous amounts of money to speed up the research to stop this killer of older people but I have always kept up on all vaccinations to protect myself, and my family and people like you who do not "believe in vaccinations".

Bill14564 12-19-2020 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1875435)
Do you have some specific data you would like to share or is that just a guess on your part (aka “an opinion”) ? The one piece of data I have is from DeSantis, who is obviously being briefed by people close to the plans. Whether you have confidence in DeSantis is irrelevant.

Did the Governor give the February estimate before or after he found out the initial delivery of the vaccine to Florida was going to be both less than originally planned and delayed?

Enough doses do not yet exist to make the vaccine available to everyone. Anything you heard yesterday and most of what you will hear today and in the near future are guess based on assumed production and shipping capabilities. Heck, they don't even have a plan yet for who will be in the Phase 1b distribution.

My guess is no one will know until January or February what the timeframe will be for manufacturing and shipping the number of doses required. Actually getting it into the arms of the masses will come some time after that.

stanley 12-19-2020 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1875441)
You are arrogantly ignorant about your own health and mine and those of your small grandchildren if you have them. I too am very glad that Operation Warp Speed allowed enormous amounts of money to speed up the research to stop this killer of older people but I have always kept up on all vaccinations to protect myself, and my family and people like you who do not "believe in vaccinations".

Calling someone "arrogantly ignorant" for not having the same views as you is just plain arrogant itself

biker1 12-19-2020 09:25 AM

Well, yes, it was an estimate. He could have said June but he said February and I don’t believe he pulled the number out of thin air. It is obviously based on projections of production of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and assuming the Moderna vaccine will be approved before the end of the year. Production of the vaccines started before the FDA approvals and, yes, they haven’t produced all the vaccines yet. If you have a real source providing a better estimate then share it. Opinions are pretty much worthless.


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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1875444)
Did the Governor give the February estimate before or after he found out the initial delivery of the vaccine to Florida was going to be both less than originally planned and delayed?

Enough doses do not yet exist to make the vaccine available to everyone. Anything you heard yesterday and most of what you will hear today and in the near future are guess based on assumed production and shipping capabilities. Heck, they don't even have a plan yet for who will be in the Phase 1b distribution.

My guess is no one will know until January or February what the timeframe will be for manufacturing and shipping the number of doses required. Actually getting it into the arms of the masses will come some time after that.


DAVES 12-19-2020 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Eileenrush (Post 1875023)
Is anyone going to organize the vaccination of the masses here in the Villages. Can you imagine what will happen when it’s announced that the vaccine is available for those over the age of 65. We might have to bring a tent to overnight while we line up. Maybe it should be done in the recreational centers, by alphabet or by age but I do believe we definitely need a plan and some serious organization.

I am thankful that I do not need to make these decisions. Whatever is decided, some will not agree. Most of what we know or think we know is spun information.

Right now it is only the Pfizer vaccine that has been approved. That is the one that needs to be stored at sub zero temps. Behind that is is one from Moderna that does not require as low a temperature. Interesting to me, I've read that Pfizer is partly Chinese owned. Moderna is an American owned company. Not sure what that means.
There is nothing that says that Chinese people cannot buy stock in Moderna.
In any case both vaccines require two shots. We will all need to be sure we get two shots of the same product. How long does immunity last? No one seems to know or to be willing to state. Will we need boosters? What will that cost?
Oh, and the spun facts say Johnson and Johnson have yet another vaccine in late testing that is only one injection.

I heard that once you receive the vaccine you will need to continue with masks and social distancing.

Like most things there are no simple yes, no answers.

Pat2015 12-19-2020 09:38 AM

What exactly is the basis for your comment that it won’t be till June or so???

biker1 12-19-2020 09:40 AM

With the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, there might be some uncertainty about the whether the vaccine prevents infection or disease. You can have the infection without developing the actual COVID disease (essentially the symptoms that may put you in the hospital). The implication is that if it doesn't prevent infection then you may still be contagious even if you have taken the vaccine and it is working (you haven't developed the disease). Presumably, this would argue for continued mask usage and social distancing. The Phase 3 testing of the Pfizer/BioNtech vaccine focused on whether people developed disease. The Moderna Phase 3 trial actually tested for indications of infection. We shall see.

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1875465)
I heard that once you receive the vaccine you will need to continue with masks and social distancing.

Like most things there are no simple yes, no answers.


EviesGP 12-19-2020 09:42 AM

This may be "Florida's Friendliest Hometown", but this sure ain't the friendliest forum?!

Marty94 12-19-2020 09:52 AM

Vaccine
 
My husband is a doctor and received his first vaccine yesterday. It was mandatory for all healthcare workers at his hospital. After getting the shot, he said he felt “a little funny”, not really light headed, but somewhat disoriented (brain fog). Other than that, his arm didn’t hurt, etc. By dinner time, he said he was feeling run down. He went to lie down around 8, highly unusual for him. He said he was just feeling tired. I offered him a nice massage and he gladly accepted. He fell asleep in a few minutes.

This morning he was up at 0600 and is heading out for his power walk. He says he feels fine. In 21 days he will get his second shot.

While we are both aware that getting this vaccine won’t guarantee immunity, it does give us hope. It’s been a rough year. A nurse on his staff was recently taken off his ventilator. He leaves 2 small children behind. Thus, I do pray that this vaccine works and I understand the priority given to the most vulnerable first. I’ll patiently wait my turn.

Jokomo 12-19-2020 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Eileenrush (Post 1875023)
Is anyone going to organize the vaccination of the masses here in the Villages. Can you imagine what will happen when it’s announced that the vaccine is available for those over the age of 65. We might have to bring a tent to overnight while we line up. Maybe it should be done in the recreational centers, by alphabet or by age but I do believe we definitely need a plan and some serious organization.

Any plan that puts those who have refused to wear masks and socially distance at the end of the line will have my wholehearted support.

Moderator 12-19-2020 10:15 AM

Another one closes because people can't keep their political views to themselves.

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