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tsmall22204 07-02-2021 05:08 AM
Golfers just can't seem to get along.

scottiesrgreat@gmail.com 07-02-2021 06:08 AM
Two sides - both feeling they are entitled - doesn’t make either one right.

Yep, those you encountered weren’t acting respectable - but, :-) sorry to say - you weren’t acting respectable either.

Either schedule a time or take what you get - no complaints.

irishwonone 07-02-2021 06:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 1966955)
Background to yesterdays post regarding golfing on executive course after last tee time.

After inquiring if it is allowable to golf after last tee time of day ( both at the trail fee office and the starter a few days prior and both said it was fine), we arrived at the tee box about 715 pm- there were a few other waiting. After the 6th hole we noticed the other that were ahead of us were gone and we caught up to a very slow group. They were hitting 3 and 4 ball off of the tee each, playing all of the balls and sitting in their cart for about 3 minutes after leaving the green.
On the 8 hole after they started to leave in their cart and rounded the bend, I hit my shot. He slammed on the brakes and started cursing at me for "hitting into them". His wife then informed us that they booked the last tee time and no one was allowed behind them. I told them we inquired and was told it was ok to do this and having the last tee time does not make it their own personal practice range. Again was cursed at .It felt like they were being slow on purpose , then making you believe they were going to the next hole and then stopping their cart in an effort to stir trouble. . I feel the other groups between us had the same experience and probably just left.
Lots who believe they are privileged here.😱

Golfer222 07-02-2021 06:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottiesrgreat@gmail.com (Post 1967373)
Two sides - both feeling they are entitled - doesn’t make either one right.

Yep, those you encountered weren’t acting respectable - but, :-) sorry to say - you weren’t acting respectable either.

Either schedule a time or take what you get - no complaints.

Not quite sure how it is disrespectful or being entitled to be able to do what you received permission to do

txfan 07-02-2021 06:24 AM
The most important rule I learned when taking up golf was to play fast.

The second was to rake the traps after exiting.

The third was to repair/fill divots and ball marks on the green.

Unfortunately, those three rules don’t seem to apply to Executive golf in The Villages. I’ve never seen more greens with unrepaired ball marks than the Executives.

That’s why I can’t treat golf on the Executives as anything more than practice. I still play fast, but don’t take it too seriously.

I head to the Championship courses for that.

The fourth rule is to avoid confrontation if at all possible, which challenges patience far greater than the game of golf itself.

golfing eagles 07-02-2021 06:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 1967380)
Not quite sure how it is disrespectful or being entitled to be able to do what you received permission to do
It's not.
Those who have been critical of your actions either don't play golf or don't understand the rules.

Specifically, I think there are people who posted that need to understand the difference between:

After hours play
Course closed
Golf course and practice range
The meaning of "last tee time"
Pace of play
Golf etiquette
When it is appropriate to hit a shot

I am particularly concerned if people have booked "the last tee time" with the intention of using the course as a practice range---they are the "entitled"

jbrown132 07-02-2021 06:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 1966955)
Background to yesterdays post regarding golfing on executive course after last tee time.

After inquiring if it is allowable to golf after last tee time of day ( both at the trail fee office and the starter a few days prior and both said it was fine), we arrived at the tee box about 715 pm- there were a few other waiting. After the 6th hole we noticed the other that were ahead of us were gone and we caught up to a very slow group. They were hitting 3 and 4 ball off of the tee each, playing all of the balls and sitting in their cart for about 3 minutes after leaving the green.
On the 8 hole after they started to leave in their cart and rounded the bend, I hit my shot. He slammed on the brakes and started cursing at me for "hitting into them". His wife then informed us that they booked the last tee time and no one was allowed behind them. I told them we inquired and was told it was ok to do this and having the last tee time does not make it their own personal practice range. Again was cursed at .It felt like they were being slow on purpose , then making you believe they were going to the next hole and then stopping their cart in an effort to stir trouble. . I feel the other groups between us had the same experience and probably just left.
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Billy1 07-02-2021 07:09 AM
Most people golfing after closing, are learners.
I have learned not to get on the tee box while people are playing ahead, this makes them believe they are being rushed and some purposely slow down. Don't practice swing toward the green, turn sideways or backward.
I skip holes, I rarely play through even when offered.

JeanC 07-02-2021 07:21 AM
Apparently they assumed because they were last tee time that they were given the privelage to play 3 balls every hole. Hopefully they have since figured out that the last tee time means nothing.

DOGSAREKEEPERS 07-02-2021 07:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1967165)
I believe the OP stated he hit AFTER THEY LEFT THE GREEN AND ROUNDED THE BEND. He did not hit it AT them or ENDANGER them, at least not according to his post.
If they were gone around the bend as stated they wouldn't know he had hit the ball so there would have been no yelling. Perhaps the one playing after hours, maybe without having ever paid any golfing fees, wants the ambassador to hang around to speed up play.
Just wondering.

Irishmen 07-02-2021 07:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 1966955)
Background to yesterdays post regarding golfing on executive course after last tee time.

After inquiring if it is allowable to golf after last tee time of day ( both at the trail fee office and the starter a few days prior and both said it was fine), we arrived at the tee box about 715 pm- there were a few other waiting. After the 6th hole we noticed the other that were ahead of us were gone and we caught up to a very slow group. They were hitting 3 and 4 ball off of the tee each, playing all of the balls and sitting in their cart for about 3 minutes after leaving the green.
On the 8 hole after they started to leave in their cart and rounded the bend, I hit my shot. He slammed on the brakes and started cursing at me for "hitting into them". His wife then informed us that they booked the last tee time and no one was allowed behind them. I told them we inquired and was told it was ok to do this and having the last tee time does not make it their own personal practice range. Again was cursed at .It felt like they were being slow on purpose , then making you believe they were going to the next hole and then stopping their cart in an effort to stir trouble. . I feel the other groups between us had the same experience and probably just left.
Golf used to be a gentleman's game...hitting 3-4 balls each is outrageous when others are behind you no matter when.

Bushey 07-02-2021 07:31 AM
Sorry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 1966989)
Sorry friend alot of Entitled people here that act like jerks, get used to it is part of bad behavior in people!
That is so sad, but it is very true. We have been here for 17 years and the attitude of people has changed

kendi 07-02-2021 07:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 1966955)
Background to yesterdays post regarding golfing on executive course after last tee time.

After inquiring if it is allowable to golf after last tee time of day ( both at the trail fee office and the starter a few days prior and both said it was fine), we arrived at the tee box about 715 pm- there were a few other waiting. After the 6th hole we noticed the other that were ahead of us were gone and we caught up to a very slow group. They were hitting 3 and 4 ball off of the tee each, playing all of the balls and sitting in their cart for about 3 minutes after leaving the green.
On the 8 hole after they started to leave in their cart and rounded the bend, I hit my shot. He slammed on the brakes and started cursing at me for "hitting into them". His wife then informed us that they booked the last tee time and no one was allowed behind them. I told them we inquired and was told it was ok to do this and having the last tee time does not make it their own personal practice range. Again was cursed at .It felt like they were being slow on purpose , then making you believe they were going to the next hole and then stopping their cart in an effort to stir trouble. . I feel the other groups between us had the same experience and probably just left.
You “believe” or “think” other groups had the same experience. You can’t “feel” it. I’m amazed at the number of people who don’t know the difference between a thought and a feeling.

kendi 07-02-2021 07:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kendi (Post 1967466)
You “believe” or “think” other groups had the same experience. You can’t “feel” it. I’m amazed at the number of people who don’t know the difference between a thought and a feeling.
Don’t really care and don’t know why you would feel the need to spread your experience on social media. Forget about it and be happy.

golfing eagles 07-02-2021 08:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kendi (Post 1967471)
Don’t really care and don’t know why you would feel the need to spread your experience on social media. Forget about it and be happy.
But that would eliminate 95% of all threads on TOTV:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Better question is why did someone post #56?????

VApeople 07-02-2021 08:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DOGSAREKEEPERS (Post 1967427)
If they were gone around the bend as stated they wouldn't know he had hit the ball so there would have been no yelling.
Yeah, that's what I thought.

Bethwill 07-02-2021 08:26 AM
Amazing how hostile everyone gets by the end of a thread!

golfing eagles 07-02-2021 08:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DOGSAREKEEPERS (Post 1967427)
If they were gone around the bend as stated they wouldn't know he had hit the ball so there would have been no yelling. Perhaps the one playing after hours, maybe without having ever paid any golfing fees, wants the ambassador to hang around to speed up play.
Just wondering.
You can hear a golf ball hitting the green, and it generally sounds different than hitting the rough or sand or (yikes) water

Spalumbos62 07-02-2021 09:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stan the man (Post 1966993)
Why would you complain here..Either get out of your cart and settle thr problem or just go home.

Oh ...contra (sp)....they should complain here in hopes they read this. Very rude behavior.
They might of had an agenda, but obviously it didn't work bc they put you on the course behind them....did you attempt to reason with them this point, or were they that stupid.
They must of seen you, why wouldn't they let you play through?

DaleDivine 07-02-2021 09:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1967031)
If they were that slow, then a spot was open in front of them. Just skip a hole. Problem solved.
I've done this before playing behind someone by himself hitting 3 balls on every hole because the group in front of him was verrrry slow. When I was going around him he yelled at me and said there was nowhere to go. Well, I went around the slow group as well and there were 2 holes open in front of them. I zoomed right along.
:bigbow::popcorn:

Spalumbos62 07-02-2021 09:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottiesrgreat@gmail.com (Post 1967373)
Two sides - both feeling they are entitled - doesn’t make either one right.

Yep, those you encountered weren’t acting respectable - but, :-) sorry to say - you weren’t acting respectable either.

Either schedule a time or take what you get - no complaints.

Does scheduling a time give you more privileges ?
You both pay the same fee...so to speak.

Andyb 07-02-2021 10:11 AM
That’s just rude of them.

Byte1 07-02-2021 11:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1967214)
I think not. I think it's a tie between those that want to use a golf course for something other than golf, and line dancers:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Oh, yeah, and residents of Harmeswood
AND the pooping dog walkers...........:doggie::1rotfl:

fdpaq0580 07-02-2021 11:29 AM
No longer able to play.
 
After reading numerous threads on the subject of golf after starter shack closes, ambassador leaves, etc., I think it is time for the entity in charge to come up with a ruling on exactly when courses are closed and make sure ALL starters, ambassadors and other officials disseminate the same information when golfers must leave the course. Too many folks with too many different answered from different starters, ambassadors about when they can or can't play. I think the mixed responses are the biggest underlying factor contributing to cranky golfers.

dewilson58 07-02-2021 12:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 1967576)
After reading numerous threads on the subject of golf after starter shack closes, ambassador leaves, etc., I think it is time for the entity in charge to come up with a ruling on exactly when courses are closed and make sure ALL starters, ambassadors and other officials disseminate the same information when golfers must leave the course. Too many folks with too many different answered from different starters, ambassadors about when they can or can't play. I think the mixed responses are the biggest underlying factor contributing to cranky golfers.
I called The Villages Golf Admin..............there are rules, they just hasn't been communicated &/or enforced down the food-chain.

:ho:

golfing eagles 07-02-2021 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1967598)
I called The Villages Golf Admin..............there are rules, they just hasn't been communicated &/or enforced down the food-chain.

:ho:
and what are they?????

dewilson58 07-02-2021 12:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1967601)
and what are they?????
It's over on the "walk on thread"...........No after hours golf. No tee time, no golf. All courses.

:ho:

fdpaq0580 07-02-2021 01:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1967598)
I called The Villages Golf Admin..............there are rules, they just hasn't been communicated &/or enforced down the food-chain.

:ho:
And that, imho, is the reason the poor golfers end up bumping heads. One has ambassadors permission to do as they wish, while starter gives next one a different answer. It goes back to admin not doing their job tha ends up causing frustration on the courses.
With this in mind, Golfers, please try to be patient with those who share your love for the game even if they don't follow the rules as you "know" them to be. Let there be peace on the course for golf is not a blood sport.

arickis 07-02-2021 01:19 PM
If they started to leave and were around the bend, how did they even see you hit a ball? Something does not sound right. You either hit into them, Then shame on you..this is never appropriate, or you did not hit into them...then let them pound sand!

golfing eagles 07-02-2021 01:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1967604)
It's over on the "walk on thread"...........No after hours golf. No tee time, no golf. All courses.

:ho:
That's pretty confusing, because not that long ago there was a mechanism whereby the ambassador would take your ID# after the starter was gone and you could pay the next day (and I'm sure they'd find you if you didn't). Now that was on champ courses, don't know about exec. But it sounds like "all courses" means ALL courses????

golfing eagles 07-02-2021 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arickis (Post 1967611)
If they started to leave and were around the bend, how did they even see you hit a ball? Something does not sound right. You either hit into them, Then shame on you..this is never appropriate, or you did not hit into them...then let them pound sand!
Do you golf??? If yes, you would already know the answer to that. If no, see post #61.

Scbang 07-02-2021 01:33 PM
One can not define every details in life what others should and shouldn't do.

Here's a quick story of Heaven and Hell.

Hell: Everyone has nice steak but they only have a very long fork that can not be used to feed themselves. Someone can throw it in the air but everyone try to intercept and all go hungry and mad.

Heaven: Same food same long fork but everyone feed each other and they are happy and content.

If everyone try not to hit a person in front of them and everyone try to move on when they see people behind them to play without too much wait, you are in heaven. Otherwise, you are in hell ( you hit into people in front of you and they hit it back to you or pick up the ball or step on it etc. Optionally fist fight afterwards )

Cheers!

dewilson58 07-02-2021 03:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1967614)
That's pretty confusing, because not that long ago there was a mechanism whereby the ambassador would take your ID# after the starter was gone and you could pay the next day (and I'm sure they'd find you if you didn't). Now that was on champ courses, don't know about exec. But it sounds like "all courses" means ALL courses????
As stated: just hasn't been communicated &/or enforced down the food-chain.

JMintzer 07-02-2021 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1967477)
But that would eliminate 95% of all threads on TOTV:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Better question is why did someone post #56?????
Because he "felt" the poster was wrong?

Am I doing this right? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-02-2021 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1967520)
Oh ...contra (sp)....they should complain here in hopes they read this. Very rude behavior.
They might of had an agenda, but obviously it didn't work bc they put you on the course behind them....did you attempt to reason with them this point, or were they that stupid.
They must of seen you, why wouldn't they let you play through?
It's "au contraire." It's French, and means "on the contrary." Also it's "might have had," "because," there should be a question mark after the word "stupid" not a period, and they "must have seen you."

Must HAVE. Not must OF. Or must've, if you prefer the contraction.

TwinTurboViper 07-06-2021 09:52 AM
Boy !! YOU GOT THAT STATMENT RIGHT!! Waaaay To Many "Chiefs"...not enough Indians !!

swooner 07-06-2021 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1967043)
Most sensible suggestion yet.
Since they were on the 8th tee, your brilliant suggestion to skip a hole actually means quit and go home. Probably what they should have done in the first place if they had any brains.

VApeople 07-06-2021 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by swooner (Post 1969152)
Since they were on the 8th tee, your brilliant suggestion to skip a hole actually means quit and go home. Probably what they should have done in the first place if they had any brains.
Or go back and re-play some of the previous holes.

I play the exec courses a lot when they are not crowded and I often skip from hole to hole just to avoid being behind a slow group.

Of course, when I skip around, I realize I have lost my place on the course and I NEVER hold up a group or individual who comes up behind me.

I'm Popeye! 07-06-2021 08:20 PM
A post to think about:
From what I have seen here at the Villages executive golf courses, most tee shots hit don't leave the ground but roll and could hit someone else's shoelaces. :1rotfl:


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