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On the other hand, this discussion is moot if no one attempts to enforce a restriction. If the Developer cannot or will not and if no homeowner attempts to then effectively there are no restrictions against rentals. |
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Real Estate ownership in most countries is based on a "Bundle of Rights". Those rights can be transferred, sold or withheld, almost at will. The Developer can sell some lots with "restrictions", yet not restrict others. (Bundle of rights - Wikipedia) The "Law" can effect real estate in general and can limit or control almost anything and can tell you, your home can't be rented or painted purple. The "Law" in Florida regarding prohibiting regulation of STR's, applies to communities and counties, not individual land owners. Land owners selling property, can "retain" the right to restrict the use of properties they sell. They are only selling the part of the "bundle" they want to sell. About the only right a Seller can't retain, is a "right" which offends public sensibilities (i.e., prohibiting a certain race or religion from buying or living on the property). The Developer can reserved the right not to enforce some restrictions (within reason), but that generally doesn't prevent a 3rd Party Beneficiary from seeking to enforced those restrictions (either within the framework of the restrictive scheme or perhaps under the theory of Detrimental Reliance). Before you go much further down the road of what's legal, what the developer can do or not do and how Florida law effects individual landowners, you should acquaint yourself with the how property rights work. Restrictive Covenants – Everything You Need to Know Covenants, Conditions, and Restrictions | Attorneys' Title Guaranty Fund, Inc. Can a Restrictive Covenant Be Removed From a Property? | HowStuffWorks Restrictive Covenants: Definition, How They Work, and Examples Land Use 101 is dismissed for the day. |
I would be surprised if the covenants are EVER enforced.
First, for short term rentals - it will negatively impact market value. Many buyers rely on the STR income to either afford the house as a snow bird or buy as an investment. Less demand = lower price. Not only for developer, but for us, in the resale market. Second, MANY people run a business out of their home. Just look at the market events at the square. The guy selling golf cart screens, the embroidery people, the sign people - probably all keep inventory at their house, do their books out of the house. I am glad I don’t like near a STR, I think the stability of owner occupants is important, but I just don’t think it will be addressed. |
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Most deed restrictions do not mention rentals at all. When businesses are mentioned in the deed restrictions, most specify maintaining an inventory or customer visits, neither of which likely apply to rentals. The Florida law 509.032 mentions law, ordinance, or regulation but does not mention deed restriction. This likely means it would not invalidate a Villages deed restriction (but that would be up to a court to decide). No one has yet cited a case ruling against renting in the Villages. Thank you for doing some research and providing links but I'm still feeling pretty good about my understanding of things. |
There is no HOA BUT here is a Property Owners Association. Not that it makes a difference it is not their responsibility. This matter probably fall under the CDD, using his Distric representative to see if there is any violation.
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Which leads to the question of what's next. Section 8 housing???? Halfway houses? Homeless shelters??? Bronx style high rise tenements? Are we primarily a 55+ retirement community or a 1 week vacation destination and flop house for illegal aliens? |
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I have to believe that I am allowed to have friends visit so single-family cannot prohibit overnight guests who are not related. At some point an extended stay becomes a residency but my guess is that anything less than 30 days (maybe even 90 days) would not be an issue. My restrictions have a long paragraph on at least one resident being 55 years of age. Within that paragraph there are exceptions for ages 19-55 residing in a home without one resident over 55 as long as the number of these homes does not exceed 20% of all homes. 20% of all homes is a very large number and a renter is likely not considered a resident. All the above and the section 8 or flop house question depend on enforcement. The Developer should be able to enforce the rules at the time of sale (keeping 55+ owners in 80% or more of all homes) and they certainly have the right to enforce the deed restrictions after the sale. However, either the restrictions do not prohibit rentals or no one, including the Developer, is sufficiently interested to attempt to enforce a rental prohibition. Note: IANAL (as has been point out), these are just my thoughts after reading the restrictions and observing what is happening |
Do what most Yankees would do, put a sign out demanding $15/hr minimum wage and then walk over and offer them $1/hr to mow your yard, trim the bushes and clean your house.
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Always friendly bringing great food to driveway parties. I am totally against ABnB short term rentals, I definitely am not against renters that English is not first language. Our children & grands can speak, read and write, French, German, Russian, Spanish, Vietnamese. My granddaughter will switch to Cantonese with her fiancé when she visits TV, especially at the pools. Her quote “sometimes older generations don’t feel comfortable when she visits”. Her ethnicity is hard to determine, she is Vietnamese, native American, Swedish, Celtic. |
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Does anyone know how far a barbecue grill has to be from your exterior wall?
The next-door CYV which turned into a monthly rental has the barbeque grill right up against my wall in a CYV. I’m gonna tell the owner when I can locate her to move it to her side of the wall. The smoke and grease are getting all over my wall. I said on page 2 I will be the biggest PITA if her tenants turn this into some timeshare/college dormitory kind of thing. Especially after she said she doesn't care about neighbors who don't like the rentals. Her first tenant I had to chase away from my window because he was smoking and coughing his brains out at 5 am with the smoke coming into my window. As someone with COPD, I don't need this. This CYV design of curved driveways and having to go into the neighbor's backyard to clean my exterior wall is starting to become a headache. I’m glad I didn't invest a lot into the inside of the house because it seems like the renters are gonna win and I may have to move. |
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Age Restricted Housing is regulated (primarily) by the Federal Government. The standard is NOT 20% owned by someone over 55. The standard is NOT 20% of the residents must be over 55. The standards IS, 20% of the OCCUPANTS must be over 55. The Villages has an obligation under HUD regulations, to insure that housing constructed as "Age Restricted" always remains in compliance. The methodology developers use to maintain compliance, varies. "Single-family zoning" is designation, without specificity. It means only what that particular City/Town/County/State has defined it as and it can be modified on an ad hoc basis, by a plethora of exceptions (notably, affordable housing, special use housing, age restricted housing, etc.). |
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On the Internet Discussion Boards, facts don't matter ... only one's confidence level. (You probably should have read the links and been educated) |
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The Fair Housing Act: Housing for Older Persons What Are the Fair Housing Act’s "Housing for Older Persons" Exemptions? The Fair Housing Act specifically exempts three types of housing for older persons from liability for familial status discrimination. Such exempt housing facilities or communities can lawfully refuse to sell or rent dwellings to families with minor children only if they qualify for the exemption. In order to qualify for the "housing for older persons" exemption, a facility or community must comply with all the requirements of the exemption. The Housing for Older Persons exemptions apply to the following housing: Provided under any state or federal program that the Secretary of HUD has determined to be specifically designed and operated to assist elderly persons (as defined in the state or federal program); Intended for, and solely occupied by persons 62 years of age or older; or Intended and operated for occupancy by persons 55 years of age or older. The 55 or older exemption is the most common of the three. How to Qualify for the “55 or Older” Exemption In order to qualify for the "55 or older" housing exemption, a facility or community must satisfy each of the following requirements: At least 80 percent of the units must have at least one occupant who is 55 years of age or older; and The facility or community must publish and adhere to policies and procedures that demonstrate the intent to operate as "55 or older" housing; and The facility or community must comply with HUD's regulatory requirements for age verification of residents. The "housing for older persons" exemption does not protect such housing facilities or communities from liability for housing discrimination because of race, color, religion, sex, disability, or national origin. |
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In case it confused you, I used the word "resident" to mean an individual occupying the home over a period of time and not just the body within the home at a specific moment. |
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However, the Villages has not enforced this in many years. They are selling new construction, as far as I can tell, according to the law. But resales sold by non-Villages MLS realtors don't really care who lives in the house they're selling. And the Developer doesn't ask the age of the resident until AFTER the house has sold and the residents apply for their Villages ID. By that point it's too late. |
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First, let’s talk rentals where the owner of the home is not concurrently living there. There are no restrictions, even for renting by the hour. If you live next to one of these, you are basically SOL. The only protection you have is the hope that the homeowner wants to be a good neighbor, carefully screens their tenants, and rents longer term. Second, let’s talk rentals where the homeowner rents out space in their home while simultaneously living there. Two deed restrictions come into play in this scenario. A home shall be used as a single family residence and a business shall not be run out of the home. Both of these deed restrictions do not specifically refer to rentals, so an interpretation of the intent of the restrictions is required. Let’s discuss each restriction: The intent of single family use is to insure exactly that. It is entirely reasonable for homeowners to have non family member guests visit and stay in their homes. I have some golf buddies that visit for a few days once or twice a year. They are not paying to stay there and are not a revolving door of non stop customers with no other connection to the homeowners other than an income source. Most importantly, occasional visiting guests are not detrimental to the neighborhood and the quality of the neighbor’s lifestyle. The intent of restricting running a business from one’s home is also an attempt to insure an operation is not detrimental to the neighborhood and the quality of the neighbor’s lifestyle. Someone working from their home on line, who does not carry business inventories or have customers coming and going from their home clearly doesn’t fall within the intent of the restriction. On the other hand, someone running a revolving door rental operation, for profit, with renters (paid business customers) constantly coming and going, creating parking issues, and making excessive noise, certainly does fall within the intent of the restriction. I get it that both of these deed restrictions are subject to reasonable interpretation of their intent. Given that, I couple years ago I calling community standards to report a poorly run AIRBnB operation in my neighborhood. They informed me that they do not enforce deed restriction violations that are considered internal to the home. I asked who did and they told me it’s the developers responsibility. I asked who I could contact and they transferred me. I asked the individual I was transferred to if he was a representative of the developer, and his response was I am the developer. I then explained the situation in our neighborhood and referenced the two deed restrictions I believed were being violated. He responded that based on my description two deed restrictions were in fact being violated. I then asked what steps were necessary to have the operation shut down. That’s when the backpedaling began. I was told how difficult it is to gather proof of violations and enforce internal deed restrictions as homeowners typically don’t respond to inquiries or aren’t truthful in their responses. It’s easy to see a little white cross on someone’s property, but difficult to prove they are running a rental operation inside the home while simultaneously living there. I mentioned that it’s easy to identify an AirBnB, simply go the the website and see the listing. As I talked with this individual it became very clear that pursuing this any further was an effort in futility as they have made a conscious effort not to enforce these deed restriction violations. As has been previously stated in this thread, the deed restrictions say that violations may be enforced, not that they shall be or are required to be enforced. One can speculate about the motives behind the developer’s decision to not enforce these violations, but they clearly acknowledged the violations and have chosen to exercise their right to not enforce them. In my opinion, selective enforcement totally discredits the whole intent of having deed restrictions at all. So anyone living in close proximity to one of these poorly run businesses has two hopes. First, the homeowner suddenly decides being a good neighbor is more important than generating income from their home, or they have a conscience and don’t want to knowingly violate deed restrictions even though said violations are not enforced. Second, the deed restrictions are enforced, which appears won’t happen. The only way I can reasonably see the deed restriction violations possibly being enforced would be if another third party is charged with the responsibility of enforcement, or if new homebuyers, in large numbers, express hesitation of purchasing new homes to their Villages sales representatives because of the out of control short term rental situation. Hopefully this information will shed some light on the situation : ) |
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You can call the county and/or town to find out the details, but that would be the first stop, in my opinion. A little more digging could get you more relief: if the person who owns the house, has their vehicle registered in Florida. but you know they are hardly ever here and is using this property as their excuse to have the lower taxes and insurance costs for their vehicle - a phone call to the local DMV and/or tax office could give the homeowner a nudge in the right direction. Lastly, peaceful protest is a thing. It has been for many years. As long as you are on public property and not private property and (thanks Florida government) not in front of someone's house, you can picket. You could go to the Sumter County courthouse or other public property, and protest the Villages LLC (the responsible party with regards to internal deed restrictions) refusing to enforce the deed restrictions. You can also bring it up with the CDD, since they are the go-betweens between the residents of a district and the Villages LLC (the ones who are supposed to be enforcing the deed restrictions). You could protest financially too - refuse to pay your amenity fees, or reduce the payment. A final way to protest, the most drastic, would be to gather all like-minded people together, who are in a financially sound position, and sell all your OWN homes for $1 to homeless people. And then move somewhere else. That would likely cause the rest of the community to force change. Or turn The Villages into a dump. Either way, you wouldn't be there anymore so it would no longer matter to you. |
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Just pass a comprehensive rental law like other Florida communities have. Get rid of short term rentals. It can and has been done in several cities. Wildwood would benefit from restrictions anyway. Several developments are popping up and would benefit from new laws in Sumter County.
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But we have suggestions that if people speak Spanish they must not be US citizens and a way to handle the Spanish speaking renters is to call ICE and the news media. I do wonder where all this hate of immigrants comes from... nah, I know where. When all the undocumented workers leave Florida, I don't want to see you all whining about how much food costs and how impossible it has become to get workers in essential industries like construction and farming and restaurants and roofing and yard care and ..... |
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It should be phrased as All “naturalized “ US citizens (exception special needs, physically impaired or over 55) must be able to read and write in English. 😀 |
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I'm not confused, I've been doing it for a living for 35 years. "Resident" and "Occupant" are 2 different animals. & since this thread started, you've changed your position at least 3 times. Perhaps it would behoove you to use the links I provided you with, to become familiar with how land use regulations, restrictions and covenants work, as well as who can enforced them. Just trying to be helpful, but you can only lead a horse to water ... |
Has the OP chimed in again or did they just throw it out there like chum in the water to watch the feeding frenzy ensue? I wish we had more details and clarification on this story because it does have a potential impact on all who live in TV.
There’s been many threads recently on what is allowed in terms of renting out homes to those who are not 55+ or rentals with a high turnover rate. When I rented, which I did on several occasions, the homeowner or property manager wanted occupants renting for at least a week or more typically, a month. No one wants to live next door to a motel, that’s not why we reside in TV. It’s ironic that there are so many strict rules about guests or those who are not residents using amenities like golf courses or the pools, yet provisions have not been made for things like this which can negatively affect affect quality of life and home values. |
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The Developer is in the business of selling houses, not making it harder for himself by chasing away potential buyers. |
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As to the point you made about workers... Maybe if we had some sort of "Temporary Worker Visa Program"... Oh, wait... |
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