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kcrazorbackfan 03-14-2017 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1372763)
I went back to reread the article, as I understand it, the entire red crossed hatched area is where the homes will be built (I may be wrong), with some in Wildwood (red boundary) and the rest in Sumter county (yellow boundary). The red crossed hatched area does abut 44, so I guess the next announcement will be a bridge across 44 in the area of 468. I really hope they do not propose an AT GRADE crossing for golf carts.
Looks like we bought in the future middle of the villages (just south of 466a)!!!!!

Oh, I really hope they don't do that either; don't see how they could.

pauld315 03-14-2017 07:49 PM

I heard a year ago that they have plans going through the approval process to build 6 tunnels under 44. Guess we will have to see if that comes to fruition. I firmly believe they either own all the land all the way down to Fenney or they are in negotiations for it. Fenney will be the most southern village (for awhile anyway). It was developed first because it already had all the permits, environmental studies etc done because another developer sold it to them.

TheDude 03-14-2017 08:35 PM

I guess one day Fenney will be SoHo, Brownwood will be known as Midtown West, Sumter will be Upper East Side and SS will be...

circletrack 03-14-2017 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1372733)
This property DOES NOT abut 44. In the picture that is part on the online news report, the diagonal red lines designate the City of Wildwood. The property being called Southern Oaks is bounded by the yellow dashed line. It does not go all the way north to 44. See attached picture.

The land shown in this map looks a lot like the land already shown when the Sun did that big Fenney story.

Are we sure this 20,000 doesn't include the 14,000 from before?

circletrack 03-14-2017 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1372795)
Numbers become a jumbled mess after a while. News reports sometimes jumble the numbers.

Fenny is about 1,000 acres and will have about 3,000 homes plus amenities. Link to March 29, 2016 article in online news site: http://www.villages_dash_news.com/su...eney-wildwood/
Of course, _dash_ must be replaced with a hyphen.

Southern Oaks may have as many as 20,300 homes in an area of about 4,518 acres south of SR 44 and east of US 301 on both sides of the Florida Turnpike. Link to March 14, 2017 article in online news site: http://www.villages_dash_news.com/vi...y-20300-homes/

However, we have read articles stating 8,000 acres. Who among us really knows? TV has a "formula" that works. I believe that successful formula will be used in Fenney and Southern Oaks.

Yeah, something isn't adding up here.

chachacha 03-14-2017 08:50 PM

is anyone besides me concerned that when we bought our homes we were told that the build out would be complete in 3-4 years (that was eight years ago!) and then our property values would shoot up...Instead of that false advertising, we are now faced with the prospect of more homes out there than there will be baby boomers to require them in a few years and selling our homes will be more difficult as we are limited to a market of seniors. i hope homeowners will think about this and show up at those commission meetings to voice our displeasure. there IS such a things as "too much of a good thing"!

twoplanekid 03-14-2017 09:19 PM

Much greater detail from the Wildwood site on density and other issues -> http://wildwoodcityfl.iqm2.com/Citiz...59&Inline=True

Hancle704 03-14-2017 09:32 PM

In all the posts read so far, only 2 mention hope for a new hospital. I hope this is not a repeat of the first Villages Hospital. It took years and opened with 60 beds. Too small on opening day. It has since grown but not enough to currently meet the needs during peak season. Add another 20-50 thousand residents, and it is guaranteed all those folks will already be living in Village homes before we see completion of any new hospital. Staffing is already a problem not only for hospital but for assisted living communities and service businesses needed to provide for all the growth. All the growth has been fine but there are many unintended consequences. The cyclical nature of weather has brought near drought conditions in the past. That may also be an issue down the road along with the recent okay given to pump millions of gallons of water from the aquifer for a nearby bottling plant. Maybe it is time to change focus from further expansion and more golf courses to the future needs of current residents.

TheDude 03-14-2017 09:57 PM

I just want an AT&T tower

Reiver 03-14-2017 10:05 PM

The bottling plant is approved to use 496,000 gallons of water daily.
The Villages uses 23 million gallons per day.
The plant will use the same amount of water as 2,156 people, or 1,026 houses.

justjim 03-14-2017 10:23 PM

More Doctors and nurses are needed to staff the facilities already here. Given the mild climate of central Florida and the reasonable cost of living, one would think these professionals would be attracted to this area. That said, I wouldn't bet against the Village Developer getting more hospital beds and recruiting more doctors and nurses to The Villages, Florida. The Villages is the "talk" of the real estate world.

Barefoot 03-14-2017 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chachacha (Post 1373044)
is anyone besides me concerned that when we bought our homes we were told that the build out would be complete in 3-4 years (that was eight years ago!) and then our property values would shoot up...Instead of that false advertising, we are now faced with the prospect of more homes out there than there will be baby boomers to require them in a few years and selling our homes will be more difficult as we are limited to a market of seniors. i hope homeowners will think about this and show up at those commission meetings to voice our displeasure. there IS such a things as "too much of a good thing"!

I think owning a house in The Villages is a very good investment. I'm not at all worried about resale value.
I think we should open our arms and hearts, and welcome new residents to our beautiful city.

rubicon 03-15-2017 04:57 AM

Do You Feel Crowded Yet?
 
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Originally Posted by chachacha (Post 1373044)
is anyone besides me concerned that when we bought our homes we were told that the build out would be complete in 3-4 years (that was eight years ago!) and then our property values would shoot up...Instead of that false advertising, we are now faced with the prospect of more homes out there than there will be baby boomers to require them in a few years and selling our homes will be more difficult as we are limited to a market of seniors. i hope homeowners will think about this and show up at those commission meetings to voice our displeasure. there IS such a things as "too much of a good thing"!

I agree. Overbuilding was one of my concerns as I contemplated buying here and lower taxes were the offset

The Villages Lake-Sumter, Inc. (Developer) has always had the governor's ear. It is why, "in actuality" a private school can be certified as a charter school..thank Jeb Bush.

TVLSI has Governor Scott's ear and you can bet that a bridge, a tunnel, etc to connect all of The Villages properties will be erected and any accommodation TVLSI requires. Its good business ...but lousy for residents.

One poster spoke of people per acre. heck that is not my concern. My concern is when all those people decide to move from acre to acre for shopping dining golfing.............

TVLSI are the pied pipers of shang-ri-li living that was their hook

I know if you don't like it here ,,,move if only the solution was that easy

golfing eagles 03-15-2017 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 1373013)
I heard a year ago that they have plans going through the approval process to build 6 tunnels under 44. Guess we will have to see if that comes to fruition. I firmly believe they either own all the land all the way down to Fenney or they are in negotiations for it. Fenney will be the most southern village (for awhile anyway). It was developed first because it already had all the permits, environmental studies etc done because another developer sold it to them.

6 tunnels???? Would seem excessive considering there are 2 under 466, 2 under 466A and one bridge over 441, not to mention the cost.

golfing eagles 03-15-2017 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1373066)
More Doctors and nurses are needed to staff the facilities already here. Given the mild climate of central Florida and the reasonable cost of living, one would think these professionals would be attracted to this area. That said, I wouldn't bet against the Village Developer getting more hospital beds and recruiting more doctors and nurses to The Villages, Florida. The Villages is the "talk" of the real estate world.

Not as attractive as one might think. Some professionals relocating to FL might want to be on the coast. Others might not want a primarily geriatric patient population. Some might want to be associated with a University hospital. If they have kids, they might not want to be herded into a "family living" enclave. And their financial package is average at best, they have an EMR that is not user friendly, you are working for a corporate entity and have to follow THEIR rules in addition to all the other rules made by the government and the insurers. However, they do send out a nice recruiting postcard every month or so; I have a collection of several dozen, wonder what that costs them?


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