You mean ten CENTS

The American Way
 

This is simply the American Way......charge what the market will bear. It is not unique here...our homes cost more than small town Iowa, but far less than NYC or California. Competition determines price...more competitive in larger population areas. Think of how much you pay for lawn cutting versus up north. Enjoy it here, as unique as we are, we will pay what our market will bear.

We also went to Ocala to purchase our car
 

The car in Leesburg and in Wildwood was much higher than in Ocala, and we had less hassle than with Phillips, Jenkins or the Chevrolet dealer in Wildwood. Saved a lot and was treated better without the “Bait and switch” that I experienced at Phillips. Would NEVER do business with dishonest people. My experience with them was awful. Yes there is overcharging to Villagers!!!! But is up to us not to do business with them. I certainly don’t.

A well known fact , to save money go outside the “bubble” to get a deal. We pay a premium to live here in prices of houses also, same house on the outside thousands less.

Oh are we still boycotting the French
 

can’t keep up with all the villages boycotts

WHOA!!!!!

I just looked at a new pickleball paddle I'm looking to buy in The Villages and it was $30 more than I would pay in Canada. Couldn't understand why, now maybe I do. :ohdear:

I retired from GM, so my vehicle prices are predetermined, only trade in is negotiable. THAT SAID, consider buying a vehicle through COSTCO. Their prices are very competitive and you will eliminate the greedy dealer salesmen. Most dealerships have online or internet buying services and you can compare 3 or 4 dealerships and negotiate without ever leaving your home.

In my view, one of the drivers contributing to the higher prices experienced when one conducts business transactions with Villages merchants is the relatively high cost of doing business here in TV. Relatively higher (than outside TV) Space rents and the amount TV management extracts from the gross revenue of those businesses all contribute to the higher pricing one experiences. I was informed about the gross revenue aspect when I was conducting a general discussion with a Villages business owner and was a bit surprised.

Jus' sayin'.

The truth is ALL car dealerships try to maximize profit. (And probably all businesses.) The managers get fired if they don’t. The dealers further away realize if the price is the same you will buy locally so they make it worth your while to travel a little. As a consumer, we have to decide which is the most important to us, price or convenience. I, for one, buy my cars in Orlando. I was a sales manager for a car dealership the last ten years I worked.

The mentally of some businesses feel that everyone in The Villages are rich,so therefore they can afford to pay more than others. I guess they didn’t realize our way of life here was probably done through 40 to 50 years of working long hard hours, probably six days a week, sacrificing and saving what we could so we can all enjoy our retirement years. Being taken advantage of will happen if you do not get estimates from at least six companies, do your homework and research on products you’re interested in buying, or word of mouth from other friends and neighbors before you purchase anything. Stay healthy and Good Luck.

If people have made it to be classified as "elderly" than they probably are less likely to be scammed...............however.

There are many book smart people who are not people smart. There are many financially successful people that make you wonder how they did it . There are a lot of people of every age that get taken in....hopefully only ONCE. There is one born every minute. A lot of how people negotiate the pitfalls has to do with both experience and scars.

There are a lot of people with big mouths who would do far better to keep them shut.

You hit the nail on the head. Look at 8 000 seniors that died
 

in NY nursing Homes from covid 19. . we need to speak about the way we are treated more offen.

People who died in nursing homes didn't die because they were scammed. They were in nursing homes because they needed to be cared for and because of the highly contagious Covid-19 was carried to them before people realized that having visitors and checking staff for illness was crucial. They died in New York before everyone realized how dangerous nursing homes are now during the Pandemic.

No one scammed them. They sadly died because they were somewhere that became dangerous before we all knew it was dangerous and acted accordingly.

No one ever not once meant to endanger people in nursing homes.

That's not the point vendors trying to make money, it's the people that they target to inflate the product..

Free Enterprise. The American Dream. Why not? They have a captive audience here. Most people are not going to drive 65 miles for service after they buy their car, so they buy locally. Wheel and Deal. The name of the game.

Sorry to hear that but its not my problem...... :ho:

Are you sure of that? :eek:
Please don't tell that to the people who lost elderly ones in New York nursing homes....

You are correct. It is true for everything. It’s not just the perception but all the business that are located on commercial land owned by the villages / Morse family costs more because they hose them for 20-30% more than other landlords ! Every excessive cost is passed onto homeowners. I’m not a golfer I’m alone wanted to meet people havent and I’m going to sell and move to a friendlier place and rent.

No car dealerships on Morse land.
No lawn service on Morse land.
Palm tree vendor on Morse land..............I think not.
Extermination services on Morse land........I think not.
Flooring companies, window washers, construction contractors....not seeing them.
Winn Dixie booze is cheaper that ABC.
Publix on 466a, not seeing cheaper prices than on 44.



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My exact point and you summed it up perfectly in one line. Thxs.
When businesses raise consumer prices during a weather crisis, it is called gouging, which is illegal in most jurisdictions. When businesses raise consumer prices while targeting a specific group, such as the elderly or the infirmed, it may be construed as Financial Exploitation.

Trying to take advantage of older individuals, with the hope that their cognitive abilities have declined, is nothing new as it happens everywhere. Any concentration of retired people is considered a 'target rich' environment by those who employ this type of deplorable behavior. Everyone should make an honest assessment of their own ability to negotiate and then think about using a reliable relative or friend, as an advocate to help evaluate the offer being presented - BEFORE signing on the dotted line. As the old adage goes, "no one can take advantage of you, unless you let them."

I leased a Hyundai Sonata at Jenkins in Ocala. The Leesburg dealership and the Claremont Hyundai dealer wanted much more than I ended up leasing for. Both the down payment and the 36 monthly payments were much lower in Ocala. The lease and monthly payments were the same as my 2012 Sonata which I leased in NJ. It proves that you do not have to pay the Florida Dealer Fees at every Florida dealership. Ask for Carolyn. We have two Hyundai Sonatas and one lease is due next month. Where will I go? Jenkins in Ocala, of course.

Thank you for shutting that down

Correct! You learned quickly sir. Over priced and under serviced, but they are all great when you ask.

Sir / Madam -
In my humble opinion, for what it may be worth, your reply brilliantly encapsulates in one short paragraph everything any aging adult with any diminishing capacity needs to comprehend regarding their financial matters.
Thank You !

Looks and sounds every time like the Morse's BIG BROTHER's are watching... :yuck:

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So i don't quite get the point of the some of the posts, people are comparing Leesburg car prices to Ocala car pricesn noting the differences, and then complaining about the villages prices. . . That's kind of like comparing Walmart prices to Target prices, and then blaming the villages. Target might have higher prices, but that doesn't mean they are ripping off customers.

Brands and retailers do target prices to the locale based upon customers and clients they want, and price and quality sometime go together, sometimes not. I never shop in Walmart because I am more price insensitive and don't like the clientele and product selection. Which is why various stores in the same town have different prices. Even gas prices aren't the same at every station.

So if you are more price sensitive, you have to put more effort into either doing it yourself, or paying whatever price and quality you can afford. No different than anywhere else. My daughter waitresses in one of the more affluent counties in the US. People come in and spend over $100 per meal per person, regularly. Some week nights she takes home $400 in tips, and that is on a 50% reduced capacity.

There are always elizabeth holmes , and elon musks, and Ken Lays in the population. just be from missouri.

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@CoachKandSportsguy

"I never shop in Walmart because I am more price insensitive and don't like the ---clientele--- and product selection."



That's really nice of you that you dislike the Walmart clientele.....
I guess we would never get along since I love Walmart and their clientele.

I called a lady lake plumbing company and asked their hourly rate and travel time rate. It sounded fine. They took my street address, showed up, did the work then charged me nearly 60.00 more showing a higher hourly rate and a higher travel time rate. I said no and told them my quoted rate. They said I should have told them I lived in the Villages. I said they never asked. They took my lower payment. I never called them again. I'm not stupid so I won't pay more for being a Villager. Till that happened I had no idea locals took advantage of Villagers just because they can.

@FG111 if the basis of your evaluation is people's shopping preferences, or different preferences of price sensitivities, or price expectations by sales reps of negotiable items, or why prices are different, then I think you are missing out on a whole lot of life.

And where you shop i couldn't care less, i have too many fun activities to participate in to worry about anyone else's shopping habits. I used to spend alot of time shopping for the best deal, but now, i don't have enough time left to do the fun activities, so i now spend less time shopping for the best deal, since can't take it with me, and I don't have enough places to store it.

So i may be less price sensitive than you, but everyone is different and the world is not an equal place, or an equality place when money is tight. Personally, i don't like people who complain about other people doing their job, who are trying to make a living. I also know there are many, many reasons for why prices are the way they are, but its not obvious unless you have worked with the pricing models, and demand fluctuations, I have worked in sales support, marketing support with the price setting labor and product services, supporting commission systems for sales reps. And yes prices varied by county, so someone could drive 5 miles and get a completely different price point. There were reasons for it, but don't think that we were ripping off customers.

We live in a competitive society where yes, if you aren't careful, you can lose money. But the difference between us and the animal kingdom, they fight each other for survival. Humans fight for each others' money, and then we all can go sit in a stadium side by each, and have a good time. Have you ever seen a stadium full of wild animals sit side by side and enjoy themselves without eating each other?

BTW, my brother's entire life focus is money control, its his source of focus. He prides himself on giving his wife an allowance. He doesn't leave home much, he spends money on high end cars, and then skimps everywhere else. i buy cheap used cars, they are just future rust and junk anyway, and spend money on travel or playing sports. There is so much to do, that I have to get out of this career rat race, so I can spend more time outdoors and playing sports. Much better for my health and mental state, not worrying about price differentials from people trying to make a living.

now its 8:30 pm, and i have to go back to work writing emails and creating a presentation for tomorrow

Yep, another TYPICAL post from you... :popcorn:

:1rotfl:
(Typical)

Only the stupid ones who reside here in abundance!

WOW! Thanks for these examples. Yes I have heard people say, we who live in the villages are ‘SPOILED, AND THINK WE ARE PRIVILEGED “ and yes, we all sleep around and with our neighbors. We are still considered SWINGERS in the villages. I am getting to the point when I go out, I don’t tell people I live here. We bought our golf cart outside the villages, and what we got would have cost us $3000 more .

I know right....

This is what I have done with great results since I tend to buy highly sought vehicles.

While some here are making fun of me, allow me to suggest the following @ 10:28:15 hours
$MRIN Short 3.21 to 2.80
$SCKT short 3.55, then over extended
SPY short into closing
$BVXV - dead cat bounce WAY oversold
Need to make some extra cash to cover the additional fee's charged to villagers.
Later

I'm impressed.......

Went to Kia of Orlando. They charged me $200 less than their original quote which was already considerably less than the Kia dealer in Leesburg.