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50mph minimum on morse or buena vista. Old expelers of bowel gas get out of my way. Ill cut u off, lay on my horn...just get out of the way.
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We do not own a golf cart. When I drive, I rarely exceed the speed limit of 35 mph on Morse and Buena Vista.
I always drive in the right lane, except when I need to go left at the next roundabout. Then I move into the left lane after I get past the preceding roundabout. Of course, there are faster drivers that whiz past me, and that does not bother me at all. I enjoy driving around TV. So I guess this thread does not concern me at all, so now I'm not sure why I am even typing this post. This is not the first time I have been puzzled why I have done something. It's fun being old with no responsibilities. |
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As a Florida native who has seen hundreds of developments in my six decades of existence, The Villages is by far the best urban and regional planning project constructed in the state!
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It’s not just cars, people drive 15 mph in their golf carts and are oblivious to the string of golf carts behind them. These same people will give it more gas when you try to go around them which makes it tougher to pass. Same thing in cars, I’ve been behind cars going 10 mph slower than the speed limit and when a passing lane appears, they magically go 20mph faster so you can’t pass.
Slow drivers are more dangerous than faster drivers imo. There is a reason we don’t have autobahn speeds here in the states. Over there, if you are in the left lane and you cause a car to brake or slow down, you are ticketed, even if you are going 180mph or faster. I wish they would ticket slow drivers here and especially drivers that don’t know how to navigate the roundabouts. |
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I agree. Also, the left lane is NOT a travel lane. The left lane is for passing and exiting. It is FL law, I have posted the statue previously. All people need to be polite and follow the rules of the road and not everyone who lives here is retired.
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A big part of the problem is that there are Villagers, in cars and in golf carts, who have no business being behind the wheel in either one. Aging is a process of loss; things like depth perception, peripheral vision, reaction time, and judgment, as well as for some the losses that come with dementia means that there are some dangerous people out there. I've overheard conversations where a person claims that he "is as good a driver as he ever was" even though he is pushing 80+ years. It is why airline pilots are mandatorily retired at age 60. Sure, there are some who could keep flying to 65 or even 70 but those people are rare, and losses in ability are inevitable. It is why I've always felt that mandatory retesting for a driver's license (written AND road tests) should be implemented every "x" number of years after a person reaches age 65; say every three years from 65 to 75, and every two years thereafter. It would go a long way toward making the roads and MMPs around the villages a lot safer. |
I drive sorta on the slower side. I also try to be as considerate as possible to other drivers.
That being said, you stand a better chance of winning the Lottery and getting Hit By Lightning while collecting your winnings. People are going to drive the way they always have or worse. We are in a Retirement Community. Older People = Hard To Change Lifelong Habits! It's okay to get worked up when someone jam's up your day, don't think they are going to change one bit. |
Love the car on Wednesday, that floored it to pass a stopped lawn trailer turning right, waiting for a pedestrian to cross the street. The car crossed the double yellow line to pass just as a oncoming car came around the corner. The car quickly jam on the brakes, pull back in the lane and then literally ran over top of the trailer of the lawn guy.
Thank God his truck had its wheels straight if not he would’ve been pushed into the pedestrian. Now that’s what I call somebody in a hurry and could care less about anybody else. Oh by the way he lived in Hemingway, pretty angry that they had to tow his car. I was sad that the lawn guy lost some his equipment and was getting yelled at by the guy that rear ended him. It’s not entitlement that’s just stupid |
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The posted speed, is the LIMIT, not the required speed. Even that is subject to the road conditions, weather and traffic amongst other variable factors. If someone wishes to exercise caution, respect it and have some patience. In 40+ years of law enforcement , never had occasion to cite some one for 5 under the LIMIT. Minimum speed on a limited access highway is another matter. Not relevant here.
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Invariably the major cause of limited access highway incidents is speed, excess out scores slow. Left lane campers are a real problem and it being a violation is usually posted on the roadside.
Number one advice is be aware and use your mirrors frequently. The roads are increasingly populated with speed racers slaloming through the traffic lanes. Remember for example, 5 miles an hour faster for a 3 hour highway trip will only result in an average difference of 15 miles, or maybe 10 minutes. Bottom line just slow down, be aware of traffic, car or cart and everyone goes home. |
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***Most traffic deaths are from driving too slow. About 40,100 Americans lose their lives to traffic accidents every year. ***According to a report published by the Daily Star, the number of people who are killed or seriously injured in road accidents has been steadily increasing since 2019, due to slow drivers. ***Driving slower than the traffic that surrounds you is more likely to cause an accident than if you were speeding. Driving 5 miles per hour slower than the traffic around you is actually more likely to cause an accident than if you were driving 5 miles per hour faster than the drivers around you. ***Slow drivers in all lanes can cause other drivers to weave in and out of traffic around you, which increases the chance of an accident. It’s been proven statistically (e.g., the “Crash Risk Curve”) that traffic accidents are caused much more often by drivers who are driving below the speed limit than those who are driving too fast. In fact, driving even 10 MPH slower that the surrounding traffic greatly increases your chance of being in an accident. Just google "what causes more highway accidents, speed or slow" And yes, there are some articles that state excess speed is the major cause, but slow seems to outnumber them 4:1. I'm sure you've observed the zoo on an interstate when somebody is driving slow in the left lane. And I just think it's that much worse when someone does it intentionally because they want to impose their idea of an appropriate speed on everyone else. |
There is a difference between slow and slower.
Yes, the moving roadblock in the left lane is a clear hazard, however, it is often made more dangerous by the wannabe racers closing on them at 20 over the limit and running up on their bumpers. Similarly those who close on a slower car doing the speed limit in the middle lane and wait all of 2 seconds before passing on the right are just as if not more dangerous. Statistics are great for overall planning, etc. Seeing the ‘show’ first hand is more informative. To get back to the issue at hand here, it is imperative that we all recognize that we are in a community with persons of all ages, levels of skill, impairments and goals. As such, discretion is the better part of valor when operating our vehicles. Drive aware and arrive alive. |
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Another thing that should be mentioned is the danger of being in someone's blind spot. As a former avid motorcyclist this is something I learned early on and avoided blind spots like the plague. However you see it a lot on freeways, someone parked on the left rear fender of a vehicle, both going at the same speed. Such vehicles can be hard to see if you just give a casual glance before deciding to pull into the left lane to pass a guy ahead of you, and the consequences can be disastrous. |
Blind spot add on mirror is a necessity on today’s highways. Have fitted them to all my cars/truck. It is an extension of the admonition to check your mirrors frequently, so as not to be surprised by the speed racers. Related to comment is if you are going to pass, car or truck(esp. a truck) do it, don’t dog it. Longer you take, the longer a dangerous situation exists. Use signals and don’t cut off the passed car when you return to your lane.
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If I'm on the highway in the left lane and my left turn is coming up in a mile I'm not moving to the right to let a faster ******* pass. I'm staying on the left to get into the turn lane when the light comes up. A semi today was on the verge of tailing me in the left, a couple car lengths away, then he decided to move to the right and stayed in that lane. I was going 60 in a 55.
I'm not really a speeder, I go 5-10 over but once in a while I'll see someone flying by faster. But the slow people that go 1-5 under I'm going around/past them. And if there's a light coming up I don't like to be far back in line when it turns green and have it change red. So no real hurry, but don't like to wait either. My theory has always been "nobody on the road will restrict my movement." I avoid as much traffic as I can. |
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Only if impeding traffic. Drive down left lane all day long as you are NOT blocking traffic. :eclipsee_gold_cup: |
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I drive on Pinellas Place and many carts are doing 30 mph!! |
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Yesterday, we saw a car driving the wrong direction in a traffic circle. It's crazy.
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Remember that you are driving a vehicle not designed for a crash at 30 MPH. You, as a driver may survive, but your passenger or occupant of another cart you hit may not. Accidents do happen. Slow down and "enjoy life". |
I'll take BONEHEADDRIVERS FOR $2000. You are and will be in Jeopardy anytime you get in anything with wheels on it. I will take The Villages, Boneheads, over the Tri-State Boneheads anytime. It is what it is. It's aggravating but NOTHING am a gonna change Buttercup!
It takes a while to realize what I told you is true. Acceptance and being extra vigilant are about all you can do. Chill out! |
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Limiting a golf cart to 20 mph isn't a Villages rule, its Florida law. But, like far too many Florida laws, the law here in TV seems more inclined to wink at it than enforce it. |
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a) If someone safely, repeat safely passes you on an MMP, even if they are going 23, how does that make it more dangerous? b) Why does anyone care if they get passed by a faster vehicle. It seems to be an almost universal rule---those that drive the slowest hate to get passed---they just want to lead a parade. How often, let's say on SR44, 55 mph zone, do you encounter someone going 40 in the left lane. When you go to pass them they're up to 70 or more. If you drop back behind them, they're right back to 40. I'd love one of those bozos to explain that action to me. |
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