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rsmurano 05-13-2022 06:04 PM

It’s not just cars, people drive 15 mph in their golf carts and are oblivious to the string of golf carts behind them. These same people will give it more gas when you try to go around them which makes it tougher to pass. Same thing in cars, I’ve been behind cars going 10 mph slower than the speed limit and when a passing lane appears, they magically go 20mph faster so you can’t pass.
Slow drivers are more dangerous than faster drivers imo. There is a reason we don’t have autobahn speeds here in the states. Over there, if you are in the left lane and you cause a car to brake or slow down, you are ticketed, even if you are going 180mph or faster. I wish they would ticket slow drivers here and especially drivers that don’t know how to navigate the roundabouts.

thevillages2013 05-13-2022 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DrBrutyle109 (Post 2095206)
Easy to fix
Move!

Not moving but thanks for the suggestion

thevillages2013 05-13-2022 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by brianherlihy (Post 2094715)
i drive and y dont the cars that want to go slow stay out of the left land. i saw tow cars goi the same speed one in the right lane and one in the left for a long time

Dude , can you show me how you trained your dog to type? That’s awesome

lwilder 05-14-2022 06:57 AM

I agree. Also, the left lane is NOT a travel lane. The left lane is for passing and exiting. It is FL law, I have posted the statue previously. All people need to be polite and follow the rules of the road and not everyone who lives here is retired.

Larchap49 05-14-2022 07:11 AM

Speed
 
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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2094708)
My cart can't go more than 20 mph, and most carts are the same as mine.... 20 mph is the speed limit here in the Villages anyway. Going 25 isn't going to get you there much that much sooner , so slow down and enjoy life.

If I'm 6 feet behind your cart and especially if you can see there is more than one cart behind you, swallow your pride, slow down pull over and let them pass. Getting mad at a person for passing you is childish.

Sportsguy1 05-14-2022 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill1701 (Post 2095002)
Are you that bad a driver that you can't safely pass a cart driving in the cart lane? There is always plenty of room to go around them.

OMG….just for clarification, in my original post I was NOT talking about driving on a road with a golf cart path alongside the road. I am talking about an incident driving in SS on a road that does NOT have a golf cart lane along the side of the street and you have to share the road with golf carts! It isn’t the first time that type of incident happened either. I’ve passed hundreds and hundreds of golf carts who were driving in the golf cart lane along the side of the road in different villages. #BeWell

Boffin 05-14-2022 08:22 AM

Speed is life.

ThirdOfFive 05-14-2022 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Boffin (Post 2095349)
Speed is life.

...Or death. And golf carts are certainly not immune. Deaths due to golf cart accidents , as well as serious injuries, are certainly not unknown in TV.

A big part of the problem is that there are Villagers, in cars and in golf carts, who have no business being behind the wheel in either one. Aging is a process of loss; things like depth perception, peripheral vision, reaction time, and judgment, as well as for some the losses that come with dementia means that there are some dangerous people out there. I've overheard conversations where a person claims that he "is as good a driver as he ever was" even though he is pushing 80+ years. It is why airline pilots are mandatorily retired at age 60. Sure, there are some who could keep flying to 65 or even 70 but those people are rare, and losses in ability are inevitable.

It is why I've always felt that mandatory retesting for a driver's license (written AND road tests) should be implemented every "x" number of years after a person reaches age 65; say every three years from 65 to 75, and every two years thereafter. It would go a long way toward making the roads and MMPs around the villages a lot safer.

Nucky 05-14-2022 11:22 AM

I drive sorta on the slower side. I also try to be as considerate as possible to other drivers.

That being said, you stand a better chance of winning the Lottery and getting Hit By Lightning while collecting your winnings. People are going to drive the way they always have or worse. We are in a Retirement Community. Older People = Hard To Change Lifelong Habits!

It's okay to get worked up when someone jam's up your day, don't think they are going to change one bit.

thelegges 05-14-2022 12:22 PM

Love the car on Wednesday, that floored it to pass a stopped lawn trailer turning right, waiting for a pedestrian to cross the street. The car crossed the double yellow line to pass just as a oncoming car came around the corner. The car quickly jam on the brakes, pull back in the lane and then literally ran over top of the trailer of the lawn guy.

Thank God his truck had its wheels straight if not he would’ve been pushed into the pedestrian. Now that’s what I call somebody in a hurry and could care less about anybody else.

Oh by the way he lived in Hemingway, pretty angry that they had to tow his car. I was sad that the lawn guy lost some his equipment and was getting yelled at by the guy that rear ended him.

It’s not entitlement that’s just stupid

DaleDivine 05-15-2022 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy1 (Post 2094643)
Even though I have rented and spent weeks in The Villages over the past 15 years I have called The Villages ‘home’ since moving here from the Midwest this past summer. One thing I just can’t understand is why do so many Villagers drive so fast or come up on you and get so close to you as they follow you and act upset when they don’t think you are driving fast enough! What is the big hurry? You are retired! Slow down and smell the roses!!! I had an incident yesterday where I was driving my car in the Spanish Spring area from a country club and I had to share the road with two golf carts that were ahead of me in a residential area that didn’t have golf cart lanes along the road. Another vehicle comes flying up behind me, is waving his arms because I’m not passing these two golf carts heading toward Morse Blvd. it would have been too dangerous to pass and it was only a couple of blocks at most. I don’t get it. What’s the big hurry? Haven’t you heard the song lyrics ‘ I rush and rush until life’s no fun, all I have to do is live and die, I’m in a hurry and I don’t know why’! Slow down, there is a speed limit, try to stay somewhere close to it! I know what some of you are thinking. It’s not just the Villagers driving like this, it’s the non village residents too. Well for us residents retiring here it’s OUR community and if we Villagers slow down a bit and drive safer maybe everyone else will take our lead and just might drive a little slower and safer too. We need to set the tone. Take your time. Be safe. Avoid accidents and chill out a bit! And……. don’t even get me started on the roundabouts! Now go have a nice day and Be Well!!

Life is running out of time. Got to get in as much as possible with what little time is left. Sorrrrry.
:ohdear::ohdear:

Paul1934 05-16-2022 06:12 AM

The posted speed, is the LIMIT, not the required speed. Even that is subject to the road conditions, weather and traffic amongst other variable factors. If someone wishes to exercise caution, respect it and have some patience. In 40+ years of law enforcement , never had occasion to cite some one for 5 under the LIMIT. Minimum speed on a limited access highway is another matter. Not relevant here.

golfing eagles 05-16-2022 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul1934 (Post 2095831)
The posted speed, is the LIMIT, not the required speed. Even that is subject to the road conditions, weather and traffic amongst other variable factors. If someone wishes to exercise caution, respect it and have some patience. In 40+ years of law enforcement , never had occasion to cite some one for 5 under the LIMIT. Minimum speed on a limited access highway is another matter. Not relevant here.

First of all, thank you for your service :bigbow: I agree wholeheartedly with you within TV on residential roads and the boulevards. I notice you avoided referring to limited access highways. As I'm sure you know after 40 years in law enforcement, the #1 proximate cause of accidents on those highways is changing lanes. And the number one cause of excessive lane changing is someone not keeping up with the flow of traffic---especially those that park in the far left hand lane at 55. Sometimes it seems like there's a magnet in the left lane that attracts those drivers. I'd like to know what you think, as a LEO, of a post from about 4 years ago. The person stated that they always drive 30 in the furthest left lane of 466 in the 45 zone because THEY believe that is fast enough. And while they were probably never IN an accident, I wonder how many they CAUSED.

Paul1934 05-16-2022 06:57 AM

Invariably the major cause of limited access highway incidents is speed, excess out scores slow. Left lane campers are a real problem and it being a violation is usually posted on the roadside.
Number one advice is be aware and use your mirrors frequently. The roads are increasingly populated with speed racers slaloming through the traffic lanes. Remember for example, 5 miles an hour faster for a 3 hour highway trip will only result in an average difference of 15 miles, or maybe 10 minutes.
Bottom line just slow down, be aware of traffic, car or cart and everyone goes home.

golfing eagles 05-16-2022 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul1934 (Post 2095849)
Invariably the major cause of limited access highway incidents is speed, excess out scores slow. Left lane campers are a real problem and it being a violation is usually posted on the roadside.
Number one advice is be aware and use your mirrors frequently. The roads are increasingly populated with speed racers slaloming through the traffic lanes. Remember for example, 5 miles an hour faster for a 3 hour highway trip will only result in an average difference of 15 miles, or maybe 10 minutes.
Bottom line just slow down, be aware of traffic, car or cart and everyone goes home.

I hate to disagree with a LEO of your extensive experience, however, the following excerpts are from 4 articles on the subject:

***Most traffic deaths are from driving too slow. About 40,100 Americans lose their lives to traffic accidents every year.

***According to a report published by the Daily Star, the number of people who are killed or seriously injured in road accidents has been steadily increasing since 2019, due to slow drivers.

***Driving slower than the traffic that surrounds you is more likely to cause an accident than if you were speeding. Driving 5 miles per hour slower than the traffic around you is actually more likely to cause an accident than if you were driving 5 miles per hour faster than the drivers around you.

***Slow drivers in all lanes can cause other drivers to weave in and out of traffic around you, which increases the chance of an accident.
It’s been proven statistically (e.g., the “Crash Risk Curve”) that traffic accidents are caused much more often by drivers who are driving below the speed limit than those who are driving too fast. In fact, driving even 10 MPH slower that the surrounding traffic greatly increases your chance of being in an accident.

Just google "what causes more highway accidents, speed or slow"

And yes, there are some articles that state excess speed is the major cause, but slow seems to outnumber them 4:1. I'm sure you've observed the zoo on an interstate when somebody is driving slow in the left lane. And I just think it's that much worse when someone does it intentionally because they want to impose their idea of an appropriate speed on everyone else.


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