Translation = Let me pass on a rumor that I heard, not having any actual knowledge.

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Look at post #9 for good info. Wellpoint is on the east side of Marsh bend trail just south of Monarch grove. It looks like it will be a good location. You are not next to middleton or the prison. Drive down Marsh bend and you will see. There appears to be a non-village development going in across Marsh Bend on the west side. New homes but not sure of the price point. Doesn't appear to be apartments.

Thank you for the responses
 

I want to thank everyone for their responses. We are planning to move to the Villages by April 1, 2024 whether we find an existing home to buy or have to temporarily rent. Our preference is to build in the northern area around Eastport, thus the question about Coleman, but we are not opposed to an existing home that meets our wants/needs around Marsh Bend/St Johns/Richmond.

Thanks again. I look forward to seeing everyone there in a few months.

You can be 1000 feet from Brownwood square in the evening and barely hear the music. The Coleman prison buildings are much further away from an future homes than 1000 feet.

For some reason that I can only guess, but will not reveal to the rest of the class, you failed to see that my closing suggestion,
"Ask some residents rather that your sales agent.", was intended as, "It is best to not rely on my information alone". My reply to OP was responsible: Introduce what I'd heard in case it is true- BUT ask people in case it is not. Conversely your reply to me was misdirected and unsophisticated. Which of our offerings supplied useful information to the OP?

As far as I know, there have been no Villages homes built close to the prison. Moultrie Creek will be the first. Your home must be further away, this is why you do not hear a peep.

I don't read all the posts before replying- and judging from the fact that the vast majority of posts contain similar answers it is safe to assume the vast majority of users here don't either. Many of the posts that do have similar answers differ in ways that will give the OPs wider information. Also. If someone in a Village says, "I don't hear it" it doesn't mean someone a mile away doesn't. We hear highway noise where we live. Not everyone here will report that they do where they live. So the short answer to your question is I will continue to do exactly what I am currently doing.

Priceless.

Parts of Monarch Grove is within a mile as the crow flies, about the same distance.

Lots of homes in Middleton that are closer than Moultrie Creek. Only complaints there have been about football games.

What about the sight line?
There should be a clear view of the prison and the cement factory if someone were to buy on Mcmurtrie Loop? But then,, wouldn’t it be less than 1/2 of a mile?

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Not many retirees living in Middleton. The vast majority are still working and are not home at ALL HOURS of the day. Life of a retired individual has to be taken into account. How much noise can you take 24/7? I may be wrong but Monarch Grove is much further from the prison and schools than Moultrie Creek.It also does not seem to have as much traffic. I guess the OP will have to look carefully at a map of the entire area. Isnt Monarch Grove having sinkhole issues?

Google maps shows the north east corner of USP-1 Coleman is 0.658 mi from south most Monarch Grove. Southen most building is 1.3 mi, Moultrie Creek is more than 1.3mi.

The east side of the facility is behind mature trees so you don't see it from the road.

Darn, and I strive for sophistication!

So you ignored the larger point and zeroed in on that? May want to avoid the Debating Club.

I’m not in high school, so my debate club days are over. Have fun at the prom! :)

I'm replying to the highlighted comment........I reply to posts in a thread as I read them. Does it make any sense to read a thread with, say, 100 posts then have to go back to the posts you wish to reply to? I would need a list of the posts I had to go back to so I could reply to them.

OK.....back to the subject at hand.

Not everyone is gifted with astute hearing, especially as we get older. Sometimes that can be a good thing though especially if you live close to anything that can cause noise "pollution".

Huh? :-)

I've driven down Marsh bend trail and county road 470 hundreds of times. There is no clear view of the prison buildings. It's behind a wooded area, which would presumably block out the sounds even more.

As another poster stated, the land is owned by the federal government. Do not expect the area "as is" will remain that way. The government is free to do what they want with their land. Even enlarge the prison. This is also true of the cement factory and quarry.

The poster went on and gave a great example. Look what the electric company did with their property near the Village of Citrus Grove. Expanded! Now, it is an unslightly view for some homes.

Blasting? Come join us in St. Johns on Lake Okahumpka. During duck season the shot guns start at dawn. A great alarm just as the sun comes up. Several of the $1M+ homes with pools & view lots facing the lake have gone up for sale shortly after the one year mark.

I come from a house that was near a military shooting range, and my house isn't right on the lake, so it doesn't bother me much. But some of the people in the community Facebook group have been unpleasantly surprised and disturbed.

There are many considerations when buying a house. In a place like TV with both so many options and competition for lots, you really need to decide what is important to you. And you need to do some research into things that your sales agent will never tell you about.

The people here have certainly responded with both their concerns and why others' concerns are not theirs. Take it all with grains of salt and make your own choices.

FWIW, we did all that and had our eye on a particular house in a particular place. Then another house popped up and we bought based on a cell phone video tour. We love it. But, we had done all that research so when our current house popped up, we knew it checked lots of our boxes and we were able to move.

Good luck.

Sorry I wasn't clear. I'll explain..........it may not be such a bad thing to be hearing impaired, especially if you live close to a prison or any other "venue" that ruins the quiet serenity of a person's environment with noise. Having said that, there are noises that are unavoidable such as the lawn, shrub and tree companys that keep our community looking nice and manicured. It is what it is.

No, but it would help to read a page or two to see if your point has already been made or refuted...

Very sorry, knew what you meant, that was a poor attempt at a joke.

Now that you can hear from miles away. Loud enough the dog drops his tail between his legs three miles away.

Must be really hard for some dog owners closer by or even those with some forms of PTSD.

Thank you for the maps. They did help

We can hear the gunshots for opening day, in Richmond, then mostly on the weekend. Not a big deal up north we are surrounded by 5 lakes so gunshots echo everywhere, weekends are busy in the mornings.

Our houses up north are also surrounded by woodland. So that 5 point buck may be dinner next week. I don’t mind them coming up from the lakes with ducks, but the hauling of dead deer can be a little disturbing to the kids in the neighborhood, walking to the school bus.

Maybe all the million dollar houses in St John’s are just going up for sale because of the one year is up to make profit.

Can’t believe anyone who is near a lake in TV doesn’t have a clue…hunting is legal in Florida just like any other state.

The government has taken great steps in ensuring that the Coleman facility is not visible from any public roads. It wouldn't make sense for them to all of the sudden decide that they don't care about that.

I have not ever navigated forums that way. Having said that, I have, at times, made a reply then have deleted that reply if that same point was made by someone else. I just don't like to have to double back to anything.

Oh, my bad.

Well, having moderated multiple music forums (talk about herding cats!), I've found that most confusion and many arguments can be avoided by doing just that.

Of course, YMMV...

People speak of the cement factory only in the context of view. I’d be more worried about potential health hazard of living in close proximity of a cement factory (there are many studies on the subject that one can search and draw their own conclusions). For me anyway, it makes Moultrie Creek a non-starter. But again, do your own research on the subject and make your own judgements.

View Too
 

Te view is hideous. It isn’t covered at all by any vegetation and the lights on the factory are running 24/7. The prominent towers are more than 200 foot high. The place never seems to shut down and is almost adjacent to Central Parkway. That would definitely be my non starter.

Ash Grove Cement is the second largest cement producer in the state of Florida. They are the 6th largest in the US. Locations - ASH GROVE SOUTH
Address 4750 E COUNTY ROAD 470
SUMTERVILLE, FL 33585

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Family run concrete batch plants in the Bible Belt is pretty small compared to some only have 4 locations, and 29 trucks per site. Only 20% isn’t family, those that are retired lived to their mid to late 80s. Bigger killer than any products they were surrounded by was the amount of alcohol consumed everyday after work ended

Thank you so much for including this map. You have no idea how many times I’ve heard of a particular Village but no idea where it was!

The Village of Well Point is nowhere near Moultrie Creek-it will be adjacent to and just south of Monarch Grove and miles from the high school.

Facts vs Fixtion
 

Okay, a lot of I believe and I heard on this topic. So here are some basic facts about the specific area. I live in DeSoto south of Fenney Way so we are fairly close to the prison. We have never heard announcements or sirens or any noise. From our location we can’t see any of the lights. We do hear the turnpike in the morning when everything is quiet. We do have the occasional blast from the quarry. We don’t hear it but you can definitely feel it. In the early morning hours you can hear the cement plant and the trucks backing up (beep, beep, beep). But I do not hear the plant during the day.

For the specific area (Well Point) it is further away than we are to the cement plant and closer to the turnpike. I have driven on Marsh Bend at night and you can see the lights of the prison. It would depend on the specific location of the lot as to what you could see at night. Personally I think it is going to be one of the better new areas as it will be a lot closer to established amenities than the places south of 470. There is also the last part of Richmond that will be built that will be really popular because it is so close to Brownwood. Best of luck and make an informed decision.