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noslices1 03-28-2020 05:18 AM

Simple, go get a 3% mortgage for the amount of your bond and pay it off.

dsnrbec 03-28-2020 06:27 AM

Several posters have said they recovered the cost of the bond payoff when they sold. My concern would be a potential buyer who was planning to get a mortgage which would trigger an appraisal. If a seller has done any significant improvements and paid off their bond, it would be hard for an appraiser to give them the value they need after looking at comparables. You might be ok if you’ve owned your home for a long time but if not, you will be disappointed.

Ginsanders 03-28-2020 06:48 AM

Just a note, bonds are not allowed in Lake County. One of the many reasons we bought in the northern part of The Villages. No bond applicable.

VApeople 03-28-2020 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 1734893)
2016 bonds=3.35%.

We closed on our house in Sept 2016 and were told our bond interest rate was 6%.

wine5465 03-28-2020 06:55 AM

Great explanation! Obviously

mydavid 03-28-2020 07:00 AM

After 16 years I still owe $4,000 on my bond costing me just shy of $700 a year on my taxes a year, time to pay this thing off

rlcooper70 03-28-2020 07:04 AM

Who do you believe is getting the 6% interest rate. Yes you and I are "paying" it but who do you think is profiting?

Taylor32162 03-28-2020 07:07 AM

Interest on a home equity loan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 1734431)
If you pay off your bond, you don't pay interest. You can refinance to get enough to pay the bond or you can get a home equity loan/credit line which interest is still a tax deduction .

Interest is only tax deductible f the money is used for home improvements.

MandoMan 03-28-2020 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsnrbec (Post 1734936)
Several posters have said they recovered the cost of the bond payoff when they sold. My concern would be a potential buyer who was planning to get a mortgage which would trigger an appraisal. If a seller has done any significant improvements and paid off their bond, it would be hard for an appraiser to give them the value they need after looking at comparables. You might be ok if you’ve owned your home for a long time but if not, you will be disappointed.

I paid full price on a 22 year old home, without dickering, because the bond had been paid and it had a brand new roof, HVAC system, and kitchen appliances. Those are major cash outlays I won’t need to lay out.

wilkinson 03-28-2020 07:20 AM

You can refinance your home at 3% to pay off the 6% bond - hope that upsets the 6% bond holder :-)

wilkinson 03-28-2020 07:21 AM

Can you take that interest as a deduction if you take the standard deduction?

VApeople 03-28-2020 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlcooper70 (Post 1734988)
Who do you believe is getting the 6% interest rate.

The people who put up the money and were told the return would be 6%.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlcooper70 (Post 1734988)
Yes you and I are "paying" it but who do you think is profiting?

Same answer. The people who put up the money and were told the return would be 6%.

They were pretty smart investors.

VApeople 03-28-2020 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilkinson (Post 1735016)
Can you take that interest as a deduction if you take the standard deduction?

Of course not. You can only deduct interest if you itemize deductions.

Based on what I have read in other posts, even if you itemize deductions, I do not think the interest on the bond is deductible.

champion6 03-28-2020 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginsanders (Post 1734964)
Just a note, bonds are not allowed in Lake County. One of the many reasons we bought in the northern part of The Villages. No bond applicable.

This is no longer true!

The villages of Pine Hills and Pine Ridge are in Lake County and the homes have a bond.

The correct statement is that there is no bond on the homes in Lady Lake - the villages of Country Club Hills, Orange Blossom Gardens, Silver Lake, Del Mar, El Cortez, La Reynalda, La Zamora, Mira Mesa, Valle Verde.

jonathanb 03-28-2020 07:39 AM

Best thing to do is refinance your house and take enough equity out to just pay off the bond. Do you really think the district is going to lower the interest rate. Never happen.


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