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Daddymac 05-08-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteToast (Post 1760910)
It’s just plain irresponsible to throw glass, plastic, aluminum into landfills. <shaking my head>.

And what do you want to do with it...
the market is flooded, and no one needs it...:ohdear: :ohdear:

sipops 05-08-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1761124)
Had nothing to do with a trade war.
China's “National Sword” policy, enacted in January 2018, banned the import of most plastics and other materials headed for that nation's recycling processors, which had handled nearly half of the world's recyclable waste for the past quarter century.
Why the world’s recycling system stopped working | Financial Times

You are being factual and are not reading between the lines. Thank you for Posting this. Some were hoping you would've not come along and just blamed the trade deal.

dougawhite 05-08-2020 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteToast (Post 1760910)
It’s just plain irresponsible to throw glass, plastic, aluminum into landfills. <shaking my head>.

All of those items came from the earth, so what's the problem with returning them to the earth?
I support the Covanta single stream option, even though it's more expensive it makes sense in reduced truck travel and higher effective recycle rate.

mjpuleo 05-08-2020 12:24 PM

I live at the southern end of The Villages for the past year and we never had recycling--I guess this is the reason. As far as harming the environment, if that presents a problem then the EPA
will have to step in. That being said, I assume there will be some kind of guidelines for The Villages as far as dumping and burning garbage.

JoeinFL 05-08-2020 12:37 PM

[QUOTE=dougawhite;1761159]All of those items came from the earth, so what's the problem with returning them to the earth?
I support the Covanta single stream option, even though it's more expensive it makes sense in reduced truck travel and higher effective recycle rate.[/QUOTE
Plastics didn’t come from the earth. They are man made. When burned they have the chance of releasing carcinogens into the air. Part of the reason you’re not supposed to reheat food in the microwave using plastic containers. I don’t have the answer. But, dumping all this S$&@ in the air isn’t it.

Windguy 05-08-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteToast (Post 1760910)
It’s just plain irresponsible to throw glass, plastic, aluminum into landfills. <shaking my head>.

I agree.

HOWEVER, we can only blame it on ourselves for refusing to know how to recycle correctly and be careful of what goes in the recycling bin. I see people throw trash into recycle bins in public and at home. People seem to think greasy pizza boxes, used napkins, aluminum foil, and bottle caps are OK. The are not!

A few months ago when the "refuse" hit the fan over China refusing to take our recycling, I limited it to glass bottles (no caps!), cans, and corrugated cardboard. That stuff is all easy to separate at the recycling center. I suspect they are even valuable. I would love to recycle plastic, but with the many varieties, it is difficult to separate. I choose to use at little as possible. I really hate that my groceries are delivered in plastic bags now. :-(

Here's a video showing the incredible amounts of trash people throw into the recycling bins:

Single-stream recycling workers - YouTube

HappyRetired 05-08-2020 01:02 PM

At one of the workshops, residents who participated in the survey said they were willing to pay a little more for an environmental-friendly system. Seeing what people were putting in the recycle bags, status-quo meant everything was refused due to "contamination" and it all went to the landfill. (That was the problem with sending to China--they didn't want all that contamination either.) Now that few items are worth any money separating "recyclables" doesn't pay. With everything going to a facility that recycles it ALL to energy it's 100% recycled with only ash going to landfill. They will pull out metals for re-use. Fewer pick-ups and less travel distance (by about half) saves gas and emissions. So the whole single stream is more environmental friendly. If you want to improve on that, decrease the amount of plastics you use--who needs to buy water in single-use bottles? As someone suggested, buy in bulk and re-fill smaller containers. Even pro-recycle proponents agreed that single-stream, waste-to-energy is a better way to go.

As for bulk pick-ups, all of us were paying for a few to abuse the system. If you buy white goods and electronics you can either pay the retailer to take your old ones or pay far less for a pick-up from Jacobs. That seems more fair than possibly adding more to everyone's bill. It's the way most places deal with it. Maybe trolls will catch any culprits illegally dumping at postal stations, etc.

coffeebean 05-08-2020 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1761193)
I agree.

HOWEVER, we can only blame it on ourselves for refusing to know how to recycle correctly and be careful of what goes in the recycling bin. I see people throw trash into recycle bins in public and at home. People seem to think greasy pizza boxes, used napkins, aluminum foil, and bottle caps are OK. The are not!

A few months ago when the "refuse" hit the fan over China refusing to take our recycling, I limited it to glass bottles (no caps!), cans, and corrugated cardboard. That stuff is all easy to separate at the recycling center. I suspect they are even valuable. I would love to recycle plastic, but with the many varieties, it is difficult to separate. I choose to use at little as possible. I really hate that my groceries are delivered in plastic bags now. :-(

Here's a video showing the incredible amounts of trash people throw into the recycling bins:

Single-stream recycling workers - YouTube

In New Jersey, we were not to recycle bottle caps. When we moved to The Villages, I was told that bottle caps are fine to put into recycles. I called the trash company that services my village and they told me that bottle caps were fine to include with the recycles. I know that is not relevant now that recycling is not going to be done but I just want to let people know that bottle caps were OK to recycle.

Bogie Shooter 05-08-2020 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tsmall22204 (Post 1760882)
So much for the 25% increase in their taxes.

:what:

Bogie Shooter 05-08-2020 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pfavreau (Post 1760984)
The market did not collapse. The recycling was going to China on empty cargo ships after goods came here. China said “no more” because of the trade deals that hurt China and our farmers. Now we can’t handle our own recycling!

Now who caused that?

Bogie Shooter 05-08-2020 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1760985)
Is there not an administration in place in Washington devoted to removing restraints on emissions? Even if the emissions are controlled now, those controls are expensive. Will they be controlled in 2021 or 2022? “Not in my backyard” could easily become “smoke from burning cancer-causing plastics and pesticides in my back yard.”

Probably a part of the regulation purge done by some "acting" director.

NoMoSno 05-08-2020 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1761259)
Now who caused that?

China and their “National Sword” policy, enacted in January 2018
Why the world’s recycling system stopped working | Financial Times

MandoMan 05-08-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 1761116)
They did specify that 100% of waste will go to a trash burner. Nothing to a landfill but ash.

How will they handle metal? Steel and aluminum and iron don’t burn all that well.

bpascani 05-08-2020 03:32 PM

question about donating cans to animal services
 
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Originally Posted by BlueHeronFan (Post 1760899)
Keep saving your aluminum cans. There are several charities who will be happy to take them off your hands. We have taken ours to the Sumter County Animal Shelter. (I think that's the name). They take them to scrap metal places and get extra money for the animals.

I will start doing that as well. (pause) Actually, I just got through calling SCAS, and the guy that answered the phone knew absolutely nothing about that. I suggested that it might be something the volunteer group does, to raise extra $$ that isn't available for dog stuff in petty cash. He told me they don't have volunteers. (that shocked me), so I asked , so you don't have a volunteer group that comes in and plays with, works with, help with basic training and he said no, their employees do that. SO, I'm wondering if you could give me the name of who you work with, or the address of where you go to drop off. When I called the # for them, it rang into a county office that transferred me to this man, who supposedly was with Sumpter County Animal Services. thanks

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-08-2020 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1761127)
So many opinions, so little knowledge......so much, it's some one elses problem to fix and if they don't fix it my way they are irresponsible. Do we really believe that if recycling provided an acceptable return on investment there wouldn't be investors lining up?

For me, the "acceptable return on investment" is a planet that can sustain life for a few years longer than if we just continued to pollute it at the current rate.

I might not see a single extra day of life out of the deal. In fact I probably won't. But someone's great-grandchildren will. And that makes it worth the effort.


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