Ding, Ding, Ding! Free water that they sell to achieve 7.2 billion in sales (water division only). That is incredible!

rubicon will always give his opinion, some fact based and some just his opinion. He seems to be the glass is half empty kind of guy but always good to see where he comes down on issues on here.

I know. I enjoy seeing Rubicon's posts also. The my-opinion-is-fact approach tends to tweak me a little sometimes...regardless of the source. :)

Plenty of places to live. Go where you are happy. Stay away from where you are not happy. Developers develop. We are lucky to have the one we have...the one with a lot of class.

Sounds a little like "Pull the ladder up....I am up"

Next time you buy a house, make sure you check with the developer to guarantee your house is the last one he builds.

It concerns me that some elected officials (District 4 managers) were surprised by Village officials on this village expansion as reported in the other paper. The on line paper said and I quote: “ Supervisor Paul Kelly said he would have preferred that supervisors would have had more information about The Villages’ proposal ahead of the meeting.
District Manager Janet Tutt said the last-minute request from The Villages of Lake Sumter Inc. was accommodated “out of respect” for The Villages.”

That same situation was prevalent in my Ohio home city council meetings for several years. The current mayor and his crew are now doing a much better job of providing information in a timely manner to council before issues are addressed. This is how it should be done.

I would hope that The Village staff gives District managers the same courtesy. What’s the rush?

I cannot tell for sure, I get the impression that most posters are not in favor of this expansion.

I want to keep the Developers involved in running this place as long as we can. It seems the law suit giving control to homeowners north of 466 established an atmosphere and dealings not nearly as good a way as the way things are run south of 466. They are fussing and fighting over whether we need a line in the middle of the cart paths. I drove a long way today on unlined cart paths. I don't like the nit picking and dumb additions and foolish expenditures that comes from people running communities who have had no previous history doing it.

I am a big fan of how the developers run things.

Good point Gracie. Let's all future posters on this topic state if we are north or south of 466. Me, I am north, will not be much affected either way by this expansion. If we get a couple of good additional resturants out of the expansion, then I am all for it.


BTW, I am in the group who wants stripes on the cart paths..... But a topic for another thread

I agree. That's what is so awesome. We all have choices. I love it here. The more the merrier. I wouldn't live anywhere else. I understand it's not everybody's cup of tea and that's okay. There are lots of other places to go. I think they are are doing a wonderful job here. We moved here in 2000. We always knew that it was going to be big and I love it.
I love it when you say developer. That's it exactly what they are and what they do. And they do it well. :)

no such thing as a build out date, as long as there is vacant land adjoining the villages and the demand for homes , it will never end.

I must disagree with you on this point. Elected officials are to have a say in how things should now run in the Villages. Florida statutes set up this type of elected government structure.


Now, the IRS does agree with you in that they believe the developers still run things.

Someone else can discuss this with you. We are still a CDD and elected officials do not run things where I live. AND I LIKE IT BETTER than how Urbana, Ohio is run.

Sorry, but if you live in a residential CDD in Florida per Wikipedia
Control
“The CDD is controlled by a Board of Supervisors (BoS), five individuals elected by the landowners of the district. The board then elects one supervisor as chair, names a secretary and a treasurer who need not be board members, and hires a district manager, who will be responsible for daily operations of the CDD.[1] After six years, the power must begin a transition from the landowners to the residents.[2]”
Now, where do you live?

Boy Howdy.

:agree: :BigApplause:

The Developer develops and the District manages. The CDD form of government throughout Florida is set by state statute and is not limited to TV.

This Monday, I am taking my brother and a good friend to a Rotary meeting to present a positive and informative program about the Villages. All three of us now own new homes south of Hillsborough Trail and are excited about being able to spend more time here without renting. We will talk about all of the changes that have taken place over the years to create what a beautiful place it is today.

Everyone comes from different places and yet must collaborate to insure that what changes take place in the future will make the Villages even more attractive. We can debate and still be friends I hope.

Gotta love Florida....but not the traffic!

Hope they add amenities like golf and a square in the area
to accommodate the 300 homes

Hi Polar Bear: We all approach problems/situations in a different manner. I've explained to folks before that I grew up with a father that had a John Wayne mentality meaning a man had to man up. As a kid I once said to him in response to a situation "that ain't fair" He laughed and said no kidding. Actually he used two other words (No ----) but I avoid swearing just not in my DNA that's my mother's influence.

So the issue at hand here is "overcrowding" "Overcrowding carries with it a natural negative connotation, except I am sure in this case The villages Lake-Sumter, Inc., local businesses etc. won't think so nor will politicians because he brings in more income and tax money.

However to ordinary folks like us it has an adverse effect meaning longer lines, more wait times, being pushed off the "free for life"golf courses. etc. To wit ask someone what they felt when their tee time reservation came back "cannot accommodate " This of course makes my opinion not opinion but fact. If I wanted to live in New York City I would have moved there.

My John Wayne mentality upbringing means I face these issues as they are presented and deal with them without the need to sugar coat anything.
Either accepts reality and deal with it or ignores it and lets it work against him/her.

Too often on this forum I read where a poster opines that a member is being too negative when in reality the subject manner is negativity and not the writer .

On the other hand I do like The Villages and in my little corner the surrounding neighbors exhibit all that is good about living here. I thoroughly enjoy their company and find them to be truly caring human beings and frankly the nicest people I have ever met along my travels over the years.

I truly hope I haven't offended you or other posters because my intent was only to express my reality.


Personal Best Regards:

Gracie this underlined statement in your comment is incorrect. The law suit had nothing to do with giving control of running 1 - 4 to the residents. I live within this area and we have exceptional elected officials who listen to their residents wishes.

Read this, Madelaine.


https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...agement-11447/

I've said this before IF you think they're done forget about it. Key West is a LONG ways away. Look at all the vacant property around TV. If the price is right they'll buy and when you look at some of the lot premiums they pay for the new land no problem. If you build it they will come. Is it crowded sure, but there's an awful lot here and in the surrounding areas.

My father said this on to me a lot. I thought he coined it.
“Life's hard. It's even harder when you're stupid.”
― John Wayne

Excellent post Rubicon. I can't say how I respect your posts and how I value them. Lately they felt a little different and I hoped you were still happy here.

Your fan,

Gracie

We live south of 466A - coming up on our 3rd year in May. It is exciting and wonderful to live here in TV. The developer has done a wicked good job and I see no signs of that changing.

You said it! Thanks.

15 years here and we also think they have done a wicked good job !! :thumbup:

Me too!

Sent my parents for the first time to our house. At home the sit in the house and watch TV and sleep. Here they have gone shopping visited as many rec centers they could find and got lost three times. It's the best time ever as my mom said. Thanks the the developer senior life can be improved

Supply (of homes) will only increase, 10-15 yrs from now 50% of the ppl who live here now will not be here. I'm not sure this community will meet the needs of those retiring during that timeframe.

What is the deal with the build out, what is it and why is that important, would someone explain pls.

No big deal. The Villages a few times have speculated on an approximate build out time (when all the Villages will be done). Then all of a sudden there is some more property & more homes going in. Some people get fixated with the word buildout. The developers will continue to develop as long as they can find places to develop. LOL :D

Here is some additional reading for those that care.

Class action settlement notice to Villages residents.
http://www.poa4us.org/classaction_fi...t%20Notice.pdf
Article from the Orlando Sentinel on March 9, 2008 about the settlement
Villages developer to pay $40 million for recreation upgrades to settle a lawsuit - tribunedigital-orlandosentinel
And the Tampa Bay Times
State: The Villages developer settles lawsuit

[QUOTE=twoplanekid;1028683]Here is some additional reading for those that care.

Class action settlement notice to Villages residents.
http://www.poa4us.org/classaction_fi...t%20Notice.pdf
Article from the Orlando Sentinel on March 9, 2008 about the settlement
Villages developer to pay $40 million for recreation upgrades to settle a lawsuit - tribunedigital-orlandosentinel
And the Tampa Bay Times
State: he Villages developer settles lawsuit[/QUOT


These things happened in 2008. What is the point of this post other than to say that the developer does the right thing in the end.. Ok, so it took some pressure but it all worked in the residents favor.

What? 50% of the current TV population will be gone in 10-15 years? Where in the world did you get those figures from?

And I don't understand what you mean when you say that this "community won't meet the needs of those retiring during that timeframe". Please explain.

Build-out means that there will be no more new homes built. And when that happens, only resale homes will be available. No offense, but if you don't know what build-out means or why it is important, then how did you come to the conclusion that supply of homes will "only increase"?

"Build-out" is a term used to describe when there will be no more building of new homes in a community. It is usually spoken of in discussions predicting the future, and rarely occurs at the time specified in those predictions.

Perhaps the next generation of retirees will not be interested in this type of lifestyle, or not able to afford it. Or, there could be lots of other retirement communities on the moon.

Brownwood, Fruitland, Orange Blossom, now Marion
 

Growth on the south of The Villages..expansion on the SE, revitalizing the NE...now a little expansion on the NW.

From a 40,000 foot view the developers are keeping the WHOLE property fresh. Trying to prevent one section from being deemed the older section.

Pretty smart imo.