better? as a resident on the north side of the villages in the original historic area - life may not necessarily get better, but I don't see it getting worse...will still have all of the same amenities that I take advantage of now - and likely with the same number of folks that use them now! all of that development south of 466a gives me a greater appreciation for life in the historic neighborhoods! :)

I agree. Those who live to the north will have the least impact. However, you still will have to deal with more competition for Savannah Center tickets and seats in Katie Bells and increased traffic that, even though concentrated in the new areas, will spill over into all sections of TV. While tee times are also a limited commodity, those in the North will probably have the least impact since people are most inclined to play closer to where they live.

njbchbum - interesting post - I think those of us living close to 466a feel the crunch of all the development south and now we are looking to more development to the tune of 2000+ homes on 466a and wonder where are we all going to shop, golf, and drive on the same roads. I believe as TV developed so did the commercial to go along with it.
466 is a hotbed of commercial activity, but we are not really seeing that and it is a concern for us. Hopefully "if you build it they will come" will also apply to the commercial factor - if not The Villages will be a challenge rather than a lifestyle.

It's not even October yet and my Monday golf foursome has been turned down for a tee time. We requested 7:30-noon at 15 executive courses and were still turned down!

mac9, how is this related to growth that hasn't even occurred? Please start a new thread.

How about a pool ...guess the first date someone complains on here about the Saturday night noise at the cart track ??

I reviewed all of the comments concerning this topic and believe that growth is inversely related to quality.

Some suggest that the Developer would not screw up his creation at this late date. However the past is NOT prologue to the future in this case.
the project is well along now and the market stable that the Developer doesn't need to romance anyone. Hence many of his spin offs, etc. Secondly being a good businessman and a good steward are going to conflict at times.

It should be clear to anyone that has been here for any length of time to recognize that the Developer's mission is to CAPITALIZE (noes emphasis) not just capitalize on this venture. The Developer will build on every plot of land he owns to make money. He will keep his promises but keep in mind what you expect and the Developer intended may not be the same.

People are already complaining about being denied golf tee times. Traffic is heavier on and off the roads. Restaurants have longer lines grocery stores are packed, etc etc etc.

When the Berlin Wall went up residents criticized me for saying it was a good thing . With Fruitland Park and other village developments along with Stonecrest, etc having access to our cart paths free of charge a pattern that many neglected to consider has become noticeable.

My comments were not meant to be mean spirited. I genuinely care for people but facts are facts. You are paying heavily for the right to a moon light ride on your golf cart while many are doing it for free. Its not the free that bother me, its the fact that it adds unnecessary traffic and my moon lighted ride is all of a sudden is halted because of a golf cart traffic jam

I am one to face reality and deal with it rather than ignore it and have it work against me

As for future commercial development 466A is pretty limited because of the golf courses. Maybe when Fruitland Park develops you may see some by Burkes Property, Racetrack Rd. or further east where the body shop went out of business but then there's the issue of GC accessibility which is very limited. Down by BuenaVista same issue. So either w/o Brownwood where the proposed shopping mall was to go or possible something along the NEW Moorse Blvd extension. Other then that it's currently very limited by GC. I also agree with other posters about limiting those outside of TV to NOT have access to our GC paths. The roads I don't care because we all pay taxes for them. JMO

So, it looks like you have information that there will be open access to the new TV homes in Fruitland Park from the currently developed parts of that town. Can you tell me how you learned this?

Regarding concerns of non-Villagers having golf cart access from Fruitland Park into The Villages, it appears that issue has been resolved.

A quote from the following link:

But Villages officials — Rector declined to name names — have made it clear that golf cart access is the one item that isn’t on the table.
“They said it’s a deal-breaker, and that if city commissioners demand golf cart access they will walk away from the development,” Rector said.

http://www.*******************/villa...rk-golf-carts/

Edited: Don't know why the link won't paste properly, but it's an article from The Villages News, dated Sep 9th, titled "Villages to Fruitland Park officials: No golf cart access for your citizens"

absolutely right, gomoho. and that crunch is a burden for you guys. I do get a chuckle, however, when I read the rants from those who complain about the lack of grocers, churches, restaurants, etc. I hafta shake my head and wonder if they drank too much nectar of the developer and forgot to look at the surroundings and realize all of the things that were not there as well as were there!

seem like such trivial things, don't they? re increased traffic...at least it will not be in our neighborhoods! the most auto traffic we have there comes from landscapers, the daily fedex/ups truck daily run and a few visitors - except for yard sale weekends. :) tee times are what they are and are really only a bit of a hassle during the winter months - hafta fill up on golf outside of those few weeks to make up for it! ;)

Memorandum of Understanding
 

This was taken from ******************* published on 9/26/2013:

"Fruitland Park Commissioners have unanimously agreed to a memorandum of understanding with The Villages which could lead to Florida’s Friendliest Hometown building homes within the boundaries of The Friendly City."

What is the next step in the process? Let's say the deal is done between the developer and Fruitland Park by the end of 2013 or early 2014. How long would it take the developer to construct 2,000 homes and the associated infrastructure to support those homes?

It took about one year to build 2000 homes south of 466.

How long to build 2000 homes - about a Minnesota minute!

The Villages representative said at an earlier meeting that the Fruitland Park project would take two years, start to finish. The infrastructure will take as long to build as building the houses, since they are starting from scratch. Two thousand houses could be built south of 466A in one year because the infrastructure was already in place.

Gracie, as usual I agree with you! I don't understand the whole Chicken Little thinking. I go to Colony quite often and have never felt that my life was in danger while driving. The supermarkets may get busy but that is the same in any community...if it bothers you, go at a time that the stores aren't busy, early morning or late evening. I have never stood in line at Publix for more than 5 minutes or so. If the Morse family had stopped building north of 466 we would not be here, and I'm sure the property values would not have risen the way they have. I can only suggest to the naysayers....if you hate crowds, don't like traffic and despise waiting in line....buy some acreage and move out to the country. Join a country club and make friends with your local grocer. It's a great life if that's what you want. If, instead, you CHOOSE to live here, Quit complaining!!!. 99% of the world would happily change places with you. I love TOTV but it is so distressing to hear all of the complaints. Sure, we all worked for what we have, we are fortunate to be able to live here with the wonderful lifestyle we enjoy. There are millions of people that have worked hard all of their lives but, due to various circumstances are unable to afford this. If you hate waiting in lines, try standing in line at a welfare office for 8 or 9 hours because you work 40 plus hours a week for meager wages, you do not have health care and your wife will die if she doesn't have heart surgery.Seriously, when we are leaving our beautiful airconditioned homes, getting into our golf carts and driving to the store to buy groceries that we CAN afford,take a few minutes to realize how fortunate we are.

"How long to build 2000 homes - about a Minnesota minute!"



Is that faster than a New York minute?

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It's about the same, but nicer.;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_nice

Back in 2009, at a POA meeting, Mark Morse said that expansion would be on contiguous property only. But Mark has said a lot of things, not all of which have proved true.

Ummmm, J my dear friend, the property in Fruitland Park is contiguous, adjacent and right next to the property they now have.

Innovators , investors and developers will and can change their minds. Just because Mark Morse said something 4 years ago does not mean he or they can not evaluate and change their minds or go in a different direction.

In personal and in business people change their minds. It's how we flow with the change.

Nice thoughts.:bowdown:

When visiting a resturaunt in New York my Texas husband exclaimed, "a NewYork minute doesn't seem very fast to me".:cus::laugh:

Complain about the over crowding of the markets etc. I know states that would LOVE that problem. In time everything will come. No big box store is going to jump into building until they're sure. As for Publix here's a thought skip an early morning T time and go to the market, I'm there at 7AM home by 8 with the groceries. As for more stores where I ask? Route 44 or 44A by Powell Ave is probably your last shot for GC accessibility except for a few smaller stores along 466A.Maybe Burke's will sell some of his land E/O the Shell station and that MAY be able to become GC accessible. Only time will tell. So grin and bear it, we got what we got.:spoken:

home run!

May take longer to build these 2000 homes. Brighthouse reported today that each home will cost more than half a million.

Good.