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Bogie Shooter 02-11-2014 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by maine04578 (Post 827624)
For several reasons--the size of TV and the cost of housing ($200K for a 2/2 CYV with laundry in the garage? No way, Jose) we're looking around elsewhere. We may end up in TV, but we're giving it serious second thoughts. TV may become a victim of its own success when it's built out--time will tell. (And I already know you guys will chime in and blast me for criticizing any aspect of "paradise," so save it.)

Go ahead and look around. You owe it to yourself to do just that. TV is not for everybody...........that's why there are other places in Florida.
No blast here, let us know you find.

e-flyer 02-11-2014 09:45 PM

:22yikes: Tried to go to Sumter for Mardi Gras event, never saw such a log jam a cars and carts. We decided to bypass the mess (whoops, I mean crowd) and made a loop back home. Way too big of a crowd for us, but to each his own, I'm sure the vendors and restaurants were extremely happy!. Don't get me wrong, we still love it here. :thumbup:

villagerjack 02-11-2014 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by e-flyer (Post 827817)
:22yikes: Tried to go to Sumter for Mardi Gras event, never saw such a log jam a cars and carts. We decided to bypass the mess (whoops, I mean crowd) and made a loop back home. Way too big of a crowd for us, but to each his own, I'm sure the vendors and restaurants were extremely happy!. Don't get me wrong, we still love it here. :thumbup:

We got there about 5. No problems. Found parking in Supermarket lot. Short wait on line for a sandwich and then some desert. Great music in all three spots. Sure there were a lot of people but no crowds. You ain't heavy, you're my brother.

ukbill70 02-11-2014 11:18 PM

Yes it's crowded during the 'Snowbird' season but what's the hurry ? were retired and have all day to do anything we want. Relax,smell the roses,watch the people go by and put off your stress induced heart attack for another day.

ilovetv 02-11-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by e-flyer (Post 827817)
:22yikes: Tried to go to Sumter for Mardi Gras event, never saw such a log jam a cars and carts. We decided to bypass the mess (whoops, I mean crowd) and made a loop back home. Way too big of a crowd for us, but to each his own, I'm sure the vendors and restaurants were extremely happy!. Don't get me wrong, we still love it here. :thumbup:

I saw the crowds and traffic as a sign that people are happy to be here.

I don't think people are happy sitting in a house with -25 degrees plus wind and ice outside, nor with keeping the thermostat at 62 degrees in order to (hopefully) keep the heating fuel bill under $800/month.

hollander 02-11-2014 11:37 PM

I think its too big here for me, but still very nice. Next week we are going down to look at
buying at Islandwalk
Island Walk - Venice Real Estate - Venice, FL
Has anyone ever lived there??

villagerjack 02-12-2014 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by hollander (Post 827853)
I think its too big here for me, but still very nice. Next week we are going down to look at
buying at Islandwalk
Island Walk - Venice Real Estate - Venice, FL
Has anyone ever lived there??

Never Been there but if it is not an over 55 community expect it to be very quiet during the week. To each his own. Good luck.

FoPAA 02-12-2014 09:04 AM

"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded." - Yogi Berra
:1rotfl:

gamby 02-14-2014 01:40 AM

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No matter where I go in the villages it's so crowded by the time I get there I forgot why I went;

Now I have to find my way back home and hope I remember where I live .

If I remember why we moved here , I'll go back home and change my mind.

villagerjack 02-14-2014 02:24 AM

I don't care where I go in the Villages as long as I show up when I get there.

graciegirl 02-14-2014 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hollander (Post 827853)
I think its too big here for me, but still very nice. Next week we are going down to look at
buying at Islandwalk
Island Walk - Venice Real Estate - Venice, FL
Has anyone ever lived there??

Some of my family lived in Venice. They spent a lot of time at the Elks Club in Englewood if I remember correctly.
Here are the prices of the golf club I remember; http://golfjacaranda.com/tee-times/T..._Specials.html

rubicon 02-14-2014 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gamby (Post 828997)
No matter where I go in the villages it's so crowded by the time I get there I forgot why I went;

Now I have to find my way back home and hope I remember where I live .

If I remember why we moved here , I'll go back home and change my mind.

Hi gamby: I tell my friends the same thing. Whenever I see a beautiful woman I get excited but then I forget why?

rubicon 02-14-2014 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by e-flyer (Post 827817)
:22yikes: Tried to go to Sumter for Mardi Gras event, never saw such a log jam a cars and carts. We decided to bypass the mess (whoops, I mean crowd) and made a loop back home. Way too big of a crowd for us, but to each his own, I'm sure the vendors and restaurants were extremely happy!. Don't get me wrong, we still love it here. :thumbup:

e-flyer: I understand. I gave up going to a number of places from October to May because of the overcrowding. It was bound to happen.

Beside the seasonal residents returning there are also renters and when it comes to town squares, restaurants etc we are including the surrounding area..

An employee of TV told me that he had never seen as many renters as he has this month and he has lived here for many years.

The term velocity explains the affect renting has on the increase number of people. We all just adjust. I mean Florida is the only state in the Unon that hasn't experienced snow....yet

villagerjack 02-14-2014 10:02 AM

"An employee of TV told me that he had never seen as many renters as he has this month and he has lived here for many years.". How would he know a renter from an owner?

perrjojo 02-14-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 829121)
"An employee of TV told me that he had never seen as many renters as he has this month and he has lived here for many years.". How would he know a renter from an owner?

Renters go to the sales office to pick up ID's in order to use amenities. They track the number of renters.

OBXNana 02-14-2014 10:19 AM

The crowds aren't caused by renters. If the people owning the house were in the house and not occupied by a renter, it would be the same number of people. The crowds and wait time would be identical.

If it weren't for the snowbirds and renters, The Villages would be crowded year round and not just the winter months.

Birdie Dreamer 02-14-2014 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OBXNana (Post 829139)
The crowds aren't caused by renters. If the people owning the house were in the house and not occupied by a renter, it would be the same number of people. The crowds and wait time would be identical.
............

While I do not have any issue with snowbirds and renters (they are an important part of a successful economy here), I do think they have an effect on the crowds.

In my limited experience, some snowbirds and most renters ( particularly the one month renters) understandably want to make the most of their time here and try their best to participate in everything. Whereas year round residents are happy to stay at home from time to time. JMHO.

mickey100 02-14-2014 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Birdie Dreamer (Post 829186)
While I do not have any issue with snowbirds and renters (they are an important part of a successful economy here), I do think they have an effect on the crowds.

In my limited experience, some snowbirds and most renters ( particularly the one month renters) understandably want to make the most of their time here and try their best to participate in everything. Whereas year round residents are happy to stay at home from time to time. JMHO.

:agree:

jimmy D 02-14-2014 11:59 AM

Gracie are you back?? I thought you said you were done with posting

Halle 02-14-2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdie Dreamer (Post 829186)
While I do not have any issue with snowbirds and renters (they are an important part of a successful economy here), I do think they have an effect on the crowds.

In my limited experience, some snowbirds and most renters ( particularly the one month renters) understandably want to make the most of their time here and try their best to participate in everything. Whereas year round residents are happy to stay at home from time to time. JMHO.

:agree:

You also have many homes that are shared by four or more renters while the majority of homes occupied by full time residents or snowbirds have less.

Bonny 02-14-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cquick (Post 825556)
said it before,will say it again:

:a040::a040:I LOVE THE SNOWBIRDS! THE VILLAGES WOULDN'T BE THE SAME WITHOUT THEM! KEEP 'EM COMING! :a040::a040:

Yepper !!! :agree: Everybody makes money when they are here!!

Bonny 02-14-2014 12:29 PM

We moved here 14 years ago. There were about 22,000 people here.
I laugh now when I remember some of the people back then that used to say the Villages is just too big. ;)

Bizdoc 02-15-2014 10:13 AM

When did The Villages become too big? Simple. The Villages became too big when they kept building after I bought my home. <wink>

rubicon 02-15-2014 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 829121)
"An employee of TV told me that he had never seen as many renters as he has this month and he has lived here for many years.". How would he know a renter from an owner?

Because his job requires he know the difference. P L E A S E

Personal Best Regards:

villagerjack 02-15-2014 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 829714)
Because his job requires he know the difference. P L E A S E

Personal Best Regards:

What is his job?

villagerjack 02-15-2014 11:25 AM

[QUOTE=rubicon;829714

PennBF 02-15-2014 11:48 AM

Not Too Big
 
I don't think the question is whether the Village's are too big but rather what services, business, etc. are not growing fast enough to meet the population needs, As we grow the crime rate will grow and we will need better/more Police coverage. The sheriff's dept is great but not built to handle over 100,000 people. we need more and better resturants to do this there must be better deals for them and not looked at as a potential income delta for the Developer, we need better traffic controls which would come from serving the Law Enforcement needs, we need to set aside enough land to handle these needs and not use every acre for building houses without the supporting requirements to accomondate them. I could go on and on but the basics are not if the Villages are too big but is the need for support requirements understated. There is a very strong potential for "under planning" for business/services infrastructors and just putting up buildings. It is pretty safe to assume that Brownwood will not handle the very large number of residents in the area + the outside people who will come. Less anyone think this is just "smoke" it would be well to remember that monies were not put aside to maintain the Paradise Rec Center and in the end it took a law suit and $40M fine to wake the residents up. We have a great community but should not rest that someone is looking out for our futue as the homes grow. That is not the Developer's responsibility but is the residents. It is our responsibilty to ensure as the Village's grow it remains balanced with needs. :ohdear:

De Lis 02-15-2014 12:00 PM

Not now, but when Fruitland is developed, then yes. Will need a car to access the rec centers / classes.

graciegirl 02-15-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by De Lis (Post 829772)
Not now, but when Fruitland is developed, then yes. Will need a car to access the rec centers / classes.


The Fruitland Park area to be developed is not far away, just right next to Sanibel and will be golf cart accessible. I think that a lot of people think that the new area will not be contiguous, will be way down 466A, but that is not the case. It will just be more villages to the immediate east of Sanibel.

mickey100 02-15-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 829762)
I don't think the question is whether the Village's are too big but rather what services, business, etc. are not growing fast enough to meet the population needs, As we grow the crime rate will grow and we will need better/more Police coverage. The sheriff's dept is great but not built to handle over 100,000 people. we need more and better resturants to do this there must be better deals for them and not looked at as a potential income delta for the Developer, we need better traffic controls which would come from serving the Law Enforcement needs, we need to set aside enough land to handle these needs and not use every acre for building houses without the supporting requirements to accomondate them. I could go on and on but the basics are not if the Villages are too big but is the need for support requirements understated. There is a very strong potential for "under planning" for business/services infrastructors and just putting up buildings. It is pretty safe to assume that Brownwood will not handle the very large number of residents in the area + the outside people who will come. Less anyone think this is just "smoke" it would be well to remember that monies were not put aside to maintain the Paradise Rec Center and in the end it took a law suit and $40M fine to wake the residents up. We have a great community but should not rest that someone is looking out for our futue as the homes grow. That is not the Developer's responsibility but is the residents. It is our responsibilty to ensure as the Village's grow it remains balanced with needs. :ohdear:

Good points.


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