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golfing eagles 08-21-2025 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Joecooool (Post 2455392)
Which is why the way doctors are taught in medical schools is absurd, unnecessary, and needs to be reformed.

Many doctors will tell you that the majority of what they learned in medical school never directly applies to their day-to-day practice. A more effective approach would be to structure medical training the way we educate tradespeople in vocational schools, with focused instruction in the chosen specialty, followed by several years of hands-on training.

There is little justification for requiring eight years of school plus seven years of residency before a doctor can practice independently, beyond sustaining the financial interests of universities and hospitals.

And who ends up paying for all of it? You and I through exorbitant prices for the services we receive.

And if you really want to see what a racket it is, just go here and see how out of whack what American doctors make compared to the rest of the world. Doctor Pay by Country 2025

So, that post is made on the basis of having gone through 4 years of pre-med, 4 years of medical school and in my case 3 years of residency? I doubt it. And the bottom line would be to dumb medicine down to the equivalent of vocational school?

Yes, we learn a lot of useless crap. I don't think that knowing that the intermediate host of Schistosoma mansoni is Biornphalaria glabratta was ever useful to anyone except perhaps a parasitologist in Venezuela. But I did once have to exclude Trypanosoma cruzi from the reduuvid bug as the etiology of RBBB in a 22-year-old girl who had stayed a month in Suriname. So, you never know. I prefer my doctor to know more rather than less. And btw, the cost of physician services is less than 10% of the total cost of medical care in the US. But feel free to retain the services of a Somalian physician that earns less than $20K/year and let us know how that works out.

Plinker 08-21-2025 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2455362)
Yes. And it makes perfect sense

And everything I post is true

And not that I actually am obligated to provide research, but here is an example.

The Caribbean medical school from which the subject of this thread graduated boasts an 83% pass rate for their graduates taking part I of the national boards---and that's their number from their website

Graduates in an American Internal Medicine residency have a 99.4% pass rate
Graduates in an American Family Practice residency have a 91.7% pass rate (the difference most like is a result of family practice residencies taking on a lot of graduates of osteopathic schools and not medical schools

I tend to agree with you on the topic of foreign graduates. Although I’m not going to make a blanket statement, I have several friends, US born, that went overseas to get their medical degree because they lacked the grades to get into a US school. IMO, they didn’t possess the in-depth knowledge and skill that US graduates have. One, in particular, took the Board Exam three times and failed each time. As such, he can’t practice. Obviously, there are many exceptions, and not all US graduates are at the top of their game.
Considering the time, expense and dedication to long hours of study while our college friends drank beer and ate pizza, my wife and I believe it was worth it. However, it took us 11 years to pay off our student loans.
Always check licenses and look for US Board Certified. This is easily done with a web search.

Debfrommaine 08-21-2025 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2455226)
I agree with GE.

Me too.

Debfrommaine 08-21-2025 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2455221)
I got a letter that my doctor was retiring so make that 2

We've been with VH since the beginning, many docs have come and gone for a variety of reasons. This is old news for us.


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