Using the recent flower planting discussion as an example of a worse case scenario involving the residents takeover would go like this:

Changing the flowers three times a year instead of four is more desirable both esthetically and economically.

Changing the flowers twice a year is more economic.

Changing to year round ground cover works.

Mulch only.

Similar progression at our South FL condo. All the islands in the parking lot became gray mulch. The Board even took out the perennials so nothing had to be watered. I was on the Board, but not retired yet. My vote was useless against the cheapskates.

We can only hope.

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Well said BTK. :agree:

At the VHA meeting 2 years ago, Mark Morse spoke and in his talk indicated they would not build South of 44. The next VHA meeting that he will be speaking again is. May 14. Perhaps he will say if that has changed.

Chi-Town's example is completely hypothetical. Buzzy's example is real. Are either of these in an area governed/funded by a CDD? Probably not.

Bottom line TV will be fine following build out----and it will build out someday. When, is only speculation. The Developer still has houses to build and commercial properties to build and either sell or lease. 2016 sounds about right to me.

Meanwhile----ENJOY! In the words of that great philosopher "That's all I've got to say about that". Forrest

Villages Homeowner's Association meeting, May 14. "An Evening With The Developer."

Free admission, but you have to get a ticket through the Villages Box Office. Go and hear for yourself, straight from the horse's mouth. I've got mine already. :-)

Did the developer talk about purchasing the Fruitland Park land at this meeting? No one will know about any land purchase until its a done deal. I for one believe he will keep going as long as he can buy at the right price. They didn't build the Brownwood sales office for nothing. Now they are building a exit off the turnpike, hmmm.

Build Out is a myth.

I wonder why they don't schedule the meeting in "High" season.
Most Seasonal Residents have left by mid May.
Perhaps they find that Frogs are in a better mood after the Snowbirds have left. :evil6:

I think you may be on to something.

Lots more questions than answers re the build out.
Some of the questions I have are:

1. Why was Brownwood built on the southernmost point of TV?
The other town squares are bordered by villages on all sides.
There was plenty of land south of 466A in which to locate the 3rd
town square and have it centrally located.
*Was it built at 44 because there are potential opportunities for acquiring
Land to develop below 44?
Just pondering.....
2. The massive build out of all inventory homes seems to be a bit of a stumbling block.
Many people seem to miss the ability to design "their dream home" and we see
What seems like miles and miles, hundreds and hundreds of finished, unsold, unoccupied homes just sitting.

I know the number of homes sold in 2013 was 300+ new homes a month. Without "custom design" as an option, I can't help but wonder if the number is lower for 2014.

I do think that it makes sense that they would have continued "custom design" if they were going to continue to acquire land and build as they have in the past.

But the Brownwood location sort of baffles me. One nice little tunnel under 44 like the tunnel under 466A would open up that entire area for new villages.

I guess we can speculate all we want.... I'm just glad we got in under the wire
For "custom design" and I hope any future decisions the developer makes will be as sound as the ones made up to this point.

We are very fortunate to be in such a fabulous place! No place else like it !!!

Good one Barefoot....I'm still ROTLMAO!

words from a realtor yesterday
 

I know this just may be "the party line" but a Villagers Realtor told me yesterday that (a Morse daughter?) met with them, drew a circle around the map and said, " this is it folks there will be no more Villages". The realtor indicated that this was done to dispell rumors....Perhaps the Morse's read TOTV :-)


There will be a few parcels of land...they intend to sell at higher prices to doctors etc ( I was told that Designers in these areas will start at $500,000) and there will be a few "family" villages for the workers developed.

She said something about the kind of land available meaning something like....Marsh lands or wetlands etc that had to be protected etc.

Also she did admit that on occasion a local land owner decides to sell their land to TV and, of course, they gobble that up and develop it...

Just thought I would add what I have been told....take it for what it is worth...

There is alot of land south of 44. Most of which is owned by the Baily's.. There has been talk about Disney and another place like Celebration. But that has been going around for about 5 years now or longer. You never know until it happens. I know there are plans for alot of thing south of 44 and around the The Villages turnpike interchange. For the most part will not be called The Villages as we know it. Mid Florida Properties is coming up alot. They develop all the Family sections of The Villages,,,
Over time all will come out.

Disney does, in fact ,own a large parcel of land south of 44, purchased several years ago. That fact has been discussed on TOTV along with a newspaper link to the story.
What also baffles me is that today on thevillages.com realestate there are 450 new designer homes and 208 pre-owned. Total 658 designer homes for sale, NOT counting those listed with MLS. Why build more? Talk about supply and demand. Custom build homes are a nightmare for builders, constant changes and complaints just to mention just a few.
I, too, am confused about Brownwood at the "edge" of TV and why would they need another sales office?

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What also baffles me is that today on thevillages.com realestate there are 450 new designer homes and 208 pre-owned. Total 658 designer homes for sale, NOT counting those listed with MLS. Why build more?[QUOTE]

Probably because they are selling over 300 new homes a month. A month and a half of inventory is not very much.

Also, they are not building anymore custom homes--only specs. So they no longer have to deal with the constant changes and complaints.

They have actually slowed way down on building,,, while they have inventory homes,,, not building real fast,,, about 175 a month,,,, And alot of that is due to Antrim Dells Unit 966. that is accounting for about 100 inventory homes...

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Dot's point about the location of Brownwood speaks volumes. It makes absolutely no sense to locate that town square on the edge of the Villages. Town Squares by their very nature are meant to be centrally located.

Spanish Spring to LSL = 3 Miles

LSL to Brownwood = 8 Miles.

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What also baffles me is that today on thevillages.com realestate there are 450 new designer homes and 208 pre-owned. Total 658 designer homes for sale, NOT counting those listed with MLS. Why build more?I was referring to DESIGNER homes only, they are not selling fast. Many new ones have been on the market for over a year. The villas seem more desirable to snowbirds and sell faster. So why not build more villas instead of more designer? Doesn't that make more cense?

I just attended the Villages Community Development District's Resident Academy this month. One of our featured speakers was Janet Tutt, an impressive person who obviously loves The Villages. One of the first questions to her was, "What happens when the Developer is no longer involved with The Villages"? Her response was, (paraphrased) Take a look at everything north of 466. The Developer has not been involved there for years. It's all managed by the VCDD. That's what the rest of The Villages will be when the Developer is gone. Maybe I'm naive, but I found that very reassuring.

I still believe the Developer (Morse Family) will continue to develop for as long as land and retirees are available, but I plan to attend the VHA meeting on May 14, ("An Evening With The Developer"), to hear it myself. I'm guessing that topic will be addressed. Horse's Mouth. It's free, but you have to get a ticket from The Villages Box Office.

Some things to keep in perspective or try.
Whether TV is building/selling/closing 300 per month or has "slowed down" to 175 per month have no bearing. Most developers would love to have TV slow season.

Homes in inventory is not a negative thing....they will sell. Building with no buyers gives TV the option to build now with materials at today's prices and sell later when materials are higher and home prices much higher. TV cannot lose by building into inventory.

I also once upon a time stated the term prospect home is really not accurate for what TV is doing. After all the experience in working with design criteria for years, TV has a good notion of what features to include in building houses. They build complete neighborhoods in the most efficient manner possible and then when everything is complete release the neighborhood for sale. TV cost to build a home is improved by doing business this way.
I think a more appropriate terminology is planned building, because that is what they are doing.

The other issue TV is dealing with is to maintain an offering price range that still is attractive to a large cross section of prospective buyers. Designer homes pricing for example is approaching $400-$500,000. Much different than 2-4 years ago.

For current residents the news is the best. The value of our homes continues to rise. And we haven't even had the benefit of the boomer bubble that is evolving.

All of the above are my conclusions and opinions.

Nothing but sunshine and good news here!

I think he wanted it adjacent to rte 44, to bring in more customers for the Brownwood businesses & restaurants. That might level off the seasonal changes within The Villages.